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4 hours ago, bladehunter said:

I’m talking good putters.  The thing that serrated good from good ( top tier putters ) is reading greens.    A lot of pga tour guys can hit their line , not as many can read greens as well as they putt.  If that makes sense. 

Good point...  And true, I suspect.

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I wonder what impact it would have on average putts per round.

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On 6/27/2021 at 2:25 PM, bladehunter said:

Beg to differ. It’s been a team game at the pro level since at least the 70s. Probably before.  

I disagree,caddies were generally hired on a basis of having local knowledge and there was insufficient money for a professional to retain a full time caddie other than exceptional circumstances like Henry Cotton whose caddie acted as chauffeur and butler combined.

I can't recall ever having seen Hogan,Palmer,Nicklaus or Trevino having a caddie draw an imaginary line for them to putt over.

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17 hours ago, charliefarleigh said:

I disagree,caddies were generally hired on a basis of having local knowledge and there was insufficient money for a professional to retain a full time caddie other than exceptional circumstances like Henry Cotton whose caddie acted as chauffeur and butler combined.

I can't recall ever having seen Hogan,Palmer,Nicklaus or Trevino having a caddie draw an imaginary line for them to putt over.

Nicklaus and Trevino both used.the same caddie for years on tour. Do you think they just liked how Angelo and Herman carried the bag?

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/36-greatest-caddies-of-all-time

 

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On 6/16/2021 at 11:57 AM, chigolfer1 said:

how much do people think this will hurt the putting stats, if at all?  Will this actually slow down the game more?

 

A LOT more guys will be taking AimPoint classes....

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28 minutes ago, tacklingdummy said:

Gonna get interesting with no green reading books. Not only does it affect the green reading, but it will also affect reading approach shots by picking landing spots which is big too. Both involve skill and knowledge.  More preparation is needed for mapping greens in practice rounds now.

That prep doesn’t take that long. If you’re using a break master to get slope % it can be a long couple days for a caddie. However, most of the yardage books already have detailed slopes in, all you have to do is determine exactly how severe they are and mark them accordingly 

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Can we also just make them play the course instead of having 3 days of practice rounds.. i mean if i had 3 days of practice at a course i wanted to play i would shoot a 81... i usually shoot somewhere between 83 and 90 lol in all seriousness... just make them play on thurday. Hit the range on Wednesday... nooo practice rounds... how much more easier can they make it. I know its still hard but commonnn... no other sports get practice go's at the team they are gonna play before they playy geeezss

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