Installing ribbed grip on slightly open face

[mvhoffman]

I tend to have a strong grip, always have.  Sometimes I tend to end up unintentionally closing the face a bit because of the stronger grip.  I was thinking about tossing some ribs under my grips and instead of installing the rib at 6 0'clock installing around 5/530 in order to continue with my "normal" grip and square the face instead of slightly close.

 

Thoughts? 

[North Butte]

Ideally you'll be blowing them on. Because I think there will be some trial and error to get it just right.

 

But yeah, I think totally the idea of ribbed grips is to give yourself the best chance of getting the clubface square without having to think about it. I doubt that means exactly 6:00 o'clock for most people and having it in the wrong place kind of defeats the purpose. 

[Pepperturbo]

Lots of people install Ribbed grips slightly off 6 o'clock center.  I wouldn't do it with individual Ribs, as they could easily move at the most inopportune time.  I have used TV standard ribbed grips for 30yrs, but current grips are TV Align.

[North Butte]

4 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

Lots of people install Ribbed grips slightly off 6 o'clock center.  I wouldn't do it with individual Ribs, as they could easily move at the most inopportune time.  I have used TV standard ribbed grips for 30yrs, but current grips are TV Align.

I tried the MCC Align ones when they first came out. Like the Align rib, unfortunately they were only MCC grips which I hate (slick feeling in the bottom hand, wear quickly, kind of ugly looking). 

 

I am thiiiiiis close to giving the Tour Velvet Align a chance. It's a pain to get the rib on straight and correctly lined up but it would be worth it with Tour Velvet since they don't wear out after 75 rounds. 

[Pepperturbo]

Typically, I replace my grips about every 6-7 months.  However, haven't had any problems with TV standard Align wear.  They seem to be lasting longer than my old TV standard Ribbed. 

 

I have GP CP2 Pro standard +3 on D & 4wd, and LW, SW, PW, and GP TV Align + 3 on 9i-3i

[North Butte]

2 minutes ago, Pepperturbo said:

Typically, I replace my grips about every 6-7 months.  However, haven't had any problems with TV standard Align wear.  They seem to be lasting longer than my old TV standard Ribbed. 

 

I have GP CP2 Pro standard +3 on D & 4wd, and LW, SW, PW, and GP TV Align + 3 on 9i-3i

A new club I just bought is going to come with a TV Align on it. I'll let you know how I like once the club arrives and I try it out. 

[HateTheHighDraw]

Align doesn’t do much. You need real ribbed grips like Tour Velvet .58x, or the rib kit sold by Golfworks 

[goudok]

2 minutes ago, HateTheHighDraw said:

Align doesn’t do much. You need real ribbed grips like Tour Velvet .58x, or the rib kit sold by Golfworks 

disagree

[ChristopherMcDonald]

8 minutes ago, goudok said:

disagree

I also disagree. Installed some of these for a buddy. They're pretty pronounced 

 

[HateTheHighDraw]

1 minute ago, ChristopherMcDonald said:

I also disagree. Installed some of these for a buddy. They're pretty pronounced 

 

 Agree to disagree 

[North Butte]

The Align grips are for me and most people far easier to feel than any (legal) ribbed grips. In fact, that was Golf Pride's design brief when coming up with the Align. They wanted something that was more pronounced than a reminder rib of the maximum size allowed by USGA/R&A. They went back and forth several times with USGA until they found a design that was easier to feel but still allowable. 

 

I suppose I'm not surprised there's someone, somewhere who finds them less noticeable than reminder ribs. Or maybe some people put larger than allowable reminder ribs? 

[Socrates]

1 minute ago, North Butte said:

The Align grips are for me and most people far easier to feel than any (legal) ribbed grips. In fact, that was Golf Pride's design brief when coming up with the Align. They wanted something that was more pronounced than a reminder rib of the maximum size allowed by USGA/R&A. They went back and forth several times with USGA until they found a design that was easier to feel but still allowable. 

 

I suppose I'm not surprised there's someone, somewhere who finds them less noticeable than reminder ribs. Or maybe some people put larger than allowable reminder ribs? 

I measured a lot of the old GP ribbed grips (in and around year 2000) and I found that the rib was often exceeding the USGA limit even though GP says they didn't.  Then, just a few years before the Align came out, GP changed the rib design to a much smaller rib on grips like the BCT cords.  Very noticeable.  The Align "feel" more pronounced because they are now external and I like the design.  Much easier to get them lined up a few degrees off the 6 o'clock position.  I do it by feel, but I'm likely around 10º off the center to combat a draw.

[HateTheHighDraw]

8 minutes ago, North Butte said:

The Align grips are for me and most people far easier to feel than any (legal) ribbed grips. In fact, that was Golf Pride's design brief when coming up with the Align. They wanted something that was more pronounced than a reminder rib of the maximum size allowed by USGA/R&A. They went back and forth several times with USGA until they found a design that was easier to feel but still allowable. 

 

I suppose I'm not surprised there's someone, somewhere who finds them less noticeable than reminder ribs. Or maybe some people put larger than allowable reminder ribs? 

I’m a ribbed grip fanatic. The traditional ribbed grips like the TV .58x I mentioned have a much sharper feel. The Align tech uses a wider rib made of a different rubber material so it accomplishes sensitivity in a different way than traditional ribbed grips. I also note that the Aligns come in .60 and not .58. The latter makes the grip slightly larger and on the shaft, which I think adds to the sharper rib feel.

[North Butte]

Just now, Socrates said:

I measured a lot of the old GP ribbed grips (in and around year 2000) and I found that the rib was often exceeding the USGA limit even though GP says they didn't.  Then, just a few years before the Align came out, GP changed the rib design to a much smaller rib on grips like the BCT cords.  Very noticeable.  The Align "feel" more pronounced because they are now external and I like the design.  Much easier to get them lined up a few degrees off the 6 o'clock position.  I do it by feel, but I'm likely around 10º off the center to combat a draw.

Yes, exactly. The article I read back then said USGA had cracked down on the reminder grips and Golf Pride had to scramble to find something that would satisfy people looking for a bigger rib than USGA was going to allow. I think they succeeded. 

[Socrates]

4 minutes ago, HateTheHighDraw said:

I’m a ribbed grip fanatic. The traditional ribbed grips like the TV .58x I mentioned have a much sharper feel. The Align tech uses a wider rib made of a different rubber material so it accomplishes sensitivity in a different way than traditional ribbed grips. I also note that the Aligns come in .60 and not .58. The latter makes the grip slightly larger and on the shaft, which I think adds to the sharper rib feel.

If you find a set of irons from the early 2000's with original Tour Wrap .58's on them, the rib is way over the limit.  Those were the cat's a** when it comes to ribbed grips.

[North Butte]

33 minutes ago, Socrates said:

If you find a set of irons from the early 2000's with original Tour Wrap .58's on them, the rib is way over the limit.  Those were the cat's a** when it comes to ribbed grips.

I put those on my Titleist DCI’s and loved them. By the time I upgraded to DCI 990 the ribbed Tour Wrap must have been discontinued. Or at least I could not find any. 
 

Best. Grips. Ever. 

[denkea]

If you want to install a rib for yourself with a round grip get a roll of 1/8" masking tape.

 

Set the club in the vise with the face open or closed to your preference.  Take a length of masking tape and put it on the underside of the shaft butt at the 6 o'clock position.  One strip.  Then turn the club over in vice so that the strip is at the 12 o'clock position and add any amount more strips on top of the first one.  

 

You may want to take note of whether or not it may conform to the USGA rules re deviation from round of not more that .040"  

[Pepperturbo]

17 hours ago, HateTheHighDraw said:

Align doesn’t do much. You need real ribbed grips like Tour Velvet .58x, or the rib kit sold by Golfworks 

Disagree.  I have large hands and used ribbed GP TV standard for years, then switched to GP TV ALIGN when they were introduced, been using them since.  I work the ball both ways, but straight most of the time.  ALIGN grips do exactly what they are supposed to do, CLUB-FACE AWARENESS, and its done better than the old Ribbed grips.  The rib makes it easy and almost relaxing to adjust my grip, off 6 o'clock, to move the ball either way.

[coops]

Using the Golfworks ribs (or a ribbed grip) - give it a try at 12 o'clock.... so directly on top of the shaft. Easy to set club square in a vice and then apply the rib consistently at that Top position.

This then allows you to monitor/feel the clubface from where that rib sits in the V of your left hand  - works very nicely for  me (as I tend to grip with the face a bit closed, maybe due to being left eye dominant)... and I can use Bestgrips leather grips with the reminder rib installed underneath it (and the grip on upside down so the stitching is on top too).

[skraly]

Hogan famously did this exact thing with his grips.  Seemed to work pretty well for him.

[OrangeGravy]

I use cut lengths of zip ties at about 6:30/7:00 under cp2 wraps. the face tends to drift open on me over time with round grips. My unicorn grip would be a ribbed version of the cp2 wrap/pro. 

[biffstix]

So if you hook it like a fool what’s the remedy? Rib towards 5:30 to promote a weaker left hand?

[mvhoffman]

Yeah. I ended up somewhere about 515… very nice results thus far. I did my irons 2-9 and wedges 46,52.  My other wedges and the woods I like to manipulate to allow/assist with different shots.