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4 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

There has always been more powerful "more physical" players, on every tour, in every era.  20 more yards off the tee is not 3 clubs less, unless you have only about a 7 yard gap between clubs,... which no tour player has.

 

From my actual playing experience.

If someone is 20 yards further than me off the tee...most often...they are also a club longer than me with their irons and hybrids too.

So that equates to a 3 club approach advantage for them vs. me.

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3 hours ago, KBong said:

From my actual playing experience.

If someone is 20 yards further than me off the tee...most often...they are also a club longer than me with their irons and hybrids too.

So that equates to a 3 club approach advantage for them vs. me.

 

The point is that Lydia Ko is not hitting 3 clubs less into greens, than she did a couple years ago.

 

If someone is hitting a 9 iron from the same yardage that someone else is hitting an 8 iron, I don't consider that an advantage.  Lexi Thompson doesn't have an advantage over Lydia Ko, because she hits less club from the same yardage.  A 140 yard shot, is still a 140 yard shot.  Sure, she has advantage on holes that she drives it farther into a good position

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2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

The point is that Lydia Ko is not hitting 3 clubs less into greens, than she did a couple years ago.

 

If someone is hitting a 9 iron from the same yardage that someone else is hitting an 8 iron, I don't consider that an advantage.  Lexi Thompson doesn't have an advantage over Lydia Ko, because she hits less club from the same yardage.  A 140 yard shot, is still a 140 yard shot.  Sure, she has advantage on holes that she drives it farther into a good position

425 yard hole:

 

a) Reasonably long player hits tee shot 275 yards, leaves 150 in.  Pulls 9-iron

 

b) Average player hits tee shot 255 yards, leaves 170 in.  Pulls 6-iron.

 

-->3 CLUBS DIFFERENCE

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2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

The point is that Lydia Ko is not hitting 3 clubs less into greens, than she did a couple years ago.

 

If someone is hitting a 9 iron from the same yardage that someone else is hitting an 8 iron, I don't consider that an advantage.  Lexi Thompson doesn't have an advantage over Lydia Ko, because she hits less club from the same yardage.  A 140 yard shot, is still a 140 yard shot.  Sure, she has advantage on holes that she drives it farther into a good position

You should re-watch the KPMG.  Nelly's about 30 yards longer off the tee than Lizette.  If you think there was only 3 clubs (or less) difference in what they had into greens, well there's not much to say.  Other than the four par 3s, they usually don't play from the same yardage.  Ding Ding Ding!!!!

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2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

The point is that Lydia Ko is not hitting 3 clubs less into greens, than she did a couple years ago.

 

BTW, Lydia Ko hasn't gained 20 yards from any season, let alone her shortest season off the tee.

 

But see KBong's example.  If any of us could hit our driver 20 yards farther we could probably hit our irons farther too.  Unless your driver was a horrible fit, it means you are swinging faster.  Which means not only are you 20 yards closer to the hole, which probably cuts down around 2 clubs you, you hit all of your remaining clubs farther as well!  Can easily be three clubs for the same player.

 

Not hard.  Have a good day.

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On 7/19/2021 at 5:50 AM, KBong said:

IMO....I don't think Shibuno's short game is that great.

Her swing is very 'loose'.

 

I REALLY like Shibuno...but I think her 2019 WBO was lightening in a bottle....but a win is a win.

 

I would love for her to be a weekly contender on the LPGA...but I'm not holding my breath.

Slightly unfair and that analogy could be applied to many major championship winners,at the end of the day they were the best player over the course of that particular tournament,the rest of the season is irrelevant.

Would you sooner win one major or ten tour titles?

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4 hours ago, charliefarleigh said:

Slightly unfair and that analogy could be applied to many major championship winners,at the end of the day they were the best player over the course of that particular tournament,the rest of the season is irrelevant.

Would you sooner win one major or ten tour titles?

Ten tour titles personally. Who wants to be a one hit wonder. As you mentioned, anyone can have one great week, I'd rather have ten great weeks.

 

 

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9 hours ago, KBong said:

That's tough one...if I won 10 events...I'd be p*ssed if one wasn't a major.

 

Is that you, Lee?

 

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On 7/17/2021 at 9:50 AM, Argonne69 said:

 

Less than 4 weeks.

 

 

My new toys arrived. When I picked them up today I got fit for a putter. New Blackjack should be here in 10 days. 

 

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