Bryson says Cobra Drivers suck, Cobra compares Bryson to Temper Tantrum throwing 8 year old

[TiScape]

2 hours ago, sadclevelandsports said:

It bothers me a little bit (being an actual "scientist" myself) that he makes these amorphous statements that sound quasi-scientific but lack any real meaning. This is not to be mean, but he was a physics major at a school that's better known for business education. All he had was an undergrad major in physics, and in the physics world, that's barely hitting infancy. One of my majors in college was chemistry, and if I went about rambling on as if I were an expert in the subject, I'd have as much credibility as a middle schooler equiped with Google. 

 

He's not an expert in physics or science, and he doesn't need to be. If he would shut his mouth and just play golf, he has the potential for a pretty decent career.

I equate the golf media anointing him the “scientist” to that very same golf media comparing Brooks to a NFL LB. Both are closer to those things than most PGA pros, but in actuality, not so much. 

[kasting333]

I hope it blows up. It would be awesome to see Bryson be a FA.
 

Manufacturers would be scrambling harder than cobra is now to get in his bag 

[Laznasty]

[tsecor]

for all the haters out there crapping on Dechambeaus education, google is probably your best friend RN

 

I dont have to like the guy to repsect his education and how he has applied his love of Physics and Geometry to the game he loves

 

Most of you guys crapping on his education are probably working for Target or Home Depot.   If thats what you choose do do, great...but crapping on a guy for being educated and applying his education into something he loves is basically living a dream.   I am not a Dechambeau fan but you guys crapping on him being a scientist is low key classless. 

 

Look at B. Dechanbeau - Physics

[kasting333]

1 hour ago, jj9000 said:

 

Several on here have said variations of this, and it's completely false.

 

Bryson has the cash to be a free agent...much like several others...and experiment with all OEMs until he finds something that meets his needs.

 

Most on here are too busy bashing the dude to realize that this very well may be his point.

 

Either manufacture something that meets his standards (unrealistic or not)...or...free agency is on the horizon.

 

Also...to be clear...he's a very hard dude to root for.

 

But let's not pretend he didn't know exactly what he was doing.

Yup he has not liked the RAD driver at all.
 

He won Bay Hill with the LTD and would probably rather play that but that wouldn’t be as good for cobra. 
 

The second part of his quote is more interesting where he mentions fade bias in drivers being more prevalent with the way they design heads the last few years. (Something even I have noticed but this confirms it imo)
 

Bryson seems like he does draw the ball slightly when he’s playing good so maybe there’s some truth there and he’s fed up. 

[kasting333]

3 minutes ago, Laznasty said:

JT should probably stfu and get back on the practice green 

[BHI 99]

Maybe he’ll just come back and say he forgot to tighten the head, “my bad”. 

 

The drama is pretty normal for the generation where everyone gets a trophy. 

 

Except Bryson this Sunday.....

 

[One Putter]

17 minutes ago, oughtaquit said:

 

He played bad and blamed his club, which is weak as f*** any way you slice it, no matter what corporate overlord's logo is on your shirt bag and club.

[jmck]

10 minutes ago, tsecor said:

for all the haters out there crapping on Dechambeaus education, google is probably your best friend RN

 

I dont have to like the guy to repsect his education and how he has applied his love of Physics and Geometry to the game he loves

 

Most of you guys crapping on his education are probably working for Target or Home Depot.   If thats what you choose do do, great...but crapping on a guy for being educated and applying his education into something he loves is basically living a dream.   I am not a Dechambeau fan but you guys crapping on him being a scientist is low key classless. 

 

Look at B. Dechanbeau - Physics

Lol. He didn’t graduate. Might want to work on your googling skills there bud.

[shanx]

Every week this guy is in the "news" for things other than his play, too much drama.

 

Just go out and play...

[nikegal]

39 minutes ago, R_Swanson said:

Severely doubt the cost of a one off driver is 40 dollars. 

You're correct as it is a little more than twice that number. The actual cost of a pro-line driver is $95-100, with the head costing $75-80 of that, haha. 🙂 Madison

Edited July 16, 2021 by nikegal

[TiScape]

18 minutes ago, Laznasty said:

Looks like JT would get along well here! Haha

[CaseyC]

3 minutes ago, nikegal said:

You're correct as it is a little more than twice that number. The actual cost of a pro-line driver is $95-100, with the head costing $75-80 of that, haha. 🙂 Madison

 

Of course, that doesn't include the cost of the doing the design work or the work to prep the design for mfg

[kasting333]

12 minutes ago, BHI 99 said:

Maybe he’ll just come back and say he forgot to tighten the head, “my bad”. 

 

The drama is pretty normal for the generation where everyone gets a trophy. 

 

Except Bryson this Sunday.....

 

I love these generational call outs based on a quote about a driver head.
 

Post WWII every generation is soft af, so most likely yours included. 

[tsecor]

2 minutes ago, jmck said:

Lol. He didn’t graduate. Might want to work on your googling skills there bud.

Did i say he graduated?  That must have gotten deleted or something.....

[TiScape]

19 minutes ago, tsecor said:

for all the haters out there crapping on Dechambeaus education, google is probably your best friend RN

 

I dont have to like the guy to repsect his education and how he has applied his love of Physics and Geometry to the game he loves

 

Most of you guys crapping on his education are probably working for Target or Home Depot.   If thats what you choose do do, great...but crapping on a guy for being educated and applying his education into something he loves is basically living a dream.   I am not a Dechambeau fan but you guys crapping on him being a scientist is low key classless. 

 

Look at B. Dechanbeau - Physics

How dare you! NOBODY  here would be caught dead working at Target or HD, or carries it less than 300 yards off the tee for that matter!  All CEOs, ballers and bombers. 😂 

[jmck]

Just now, tsecor said:

Did i say he graduated?  That must have gotten deleted or something.....

You chastised people for not googling his education, then posted a link to an article—which presumably you googled—that claims he has a degree when in fact he doesn’t. Nice try though.

[PappyVanWinkle53]

53 minutes ago, hwturner17 said:

lol I was moving too fast in the heat of the moment! Good catch. He DISBURSED his shots into the weeds all day due to his POOR DISPERSION 

Ha!  Yes.  Just having some fun.....but to your point, the fact that he's trying to swing like a long drive competitor and getting pissed when his drives fly offline (just like a long drive competitor) leaves me shaking my head.

[tsecor]

Just now, jmck said:

You chastised people for not googling his education, then posted a link to an article—which presumably you googled—that claims he has a degree when in fact he doesn’t. Nice try though.

Did you read the artice or just breeze through it like you did my original post? The guy has more education in his pinky then 90% of people in this world but guys like you will take shots at others who clearly have accomplished 1000x more than anyone ever will.  thats the sad part. 

[BHI 99]

6 minutes ago, kasting333 said:

I love these generational call outs based on a quote about a driver head.
 

Post WWII every generation is soft af, so most likely yours included. 

 

It was the hissy fit.....

[tsecor]

11 minutes ago, CaseyC said:

 

Of course, that doesn't include the cost of the doing the design work or the work to prep the design for mfg

or the gas money to transport the finished head to the range.....dont forget that. At $4 / gallon, that could add up

[TiScape]

20 minutes ago, jmck said:

Lol. He didn’t graduate. Might want to work on your googling skills there bud.

Using that Google thing you referenced, I found 3 sources that all say he earned his degree??? What’s the real deal?

[Nels55]

You know it occurs to me that the title of this thread is not exactly correct.  Bryson did not say that Cobra drivers suck.  He said that the prototype driver head that he and Cobra are working to perfect sucks.  There is a difference and I am sure that he would say that Cobra drivers are great for normal people.  LOL he does know enough to do that I think...  Anyway how many golfers in the world can even get a five degree loft driver with whatever super stiff shaft he is playing off the ground?  

[nikegal]

19 minutes ago, CaseyC said:

 

Of course, that doesn't include the cost of the doing the design work or the work to prep the design for mfg

That $96-100 driver is wholesaled at approximately $350 to the pro shops/stores, leaving about $250-255 in profit, out of which comes the R&D, commercials, contests, print ads, tour staff(and the Class A's like myself), legal department, customer service, management and free equipment that is given away. I might be missing a category or two, but all of that comes out of the OEM's profit, and that margin is razor thin, so it could be said that when all of that is figured into the equation and said and done, a driver has a cost to the OEM of $300-325. Take care:) M

Edited July 16, 2021 by nikegal

[TiScape]

1 minute ago, Nels55 said:

You know it occurs to me that the title of this thread is not exactly correct.  Bryson did not say that Cobra drivers suck.  He said that the prototype driver head that he and Cobra are working to perfect sucks.  There is a difference and I am sure that he would say that Cobra drivers are great for normal people.  LOL he does know enough to do that I think...  Anyway how many golfers in the world can even get a five degree loft driver with whatever super stiff shaft he is playing off the ground?  

Bryson says his particular prototype driver head sucks, not all the drivers Cobra makes sucks. Cobra compares Bryson to temper tantrum throwing 8 year old. Was a bit wordy! 😂 

[NoCalHack]

 

2 hours ago, sadclevelandsports said:

It bothers me a little bit (being an actual "scientist" myself) that he makes these amorphous statements that sound quasi-scientific but lack any real meaning. This is not to be mean, but he was a physics major at a school that's better known for business education. All he had was an undergrad major in physics, and in the physics world, that's barely hitting infancy. One of my majors in college was chemistry, and if I went about rambling on as if I were an expert in the subject, I'd have as much credibility as a middle schooler equiped with Google. 

 

He's not an expert in physics or science, and he doesn't need to be. If he would shut his mouth and just play golf, he has the potential for a pretty decent career.

 

 

100%.  I'm a scientist myself.  Not a physicist per say, but I can probably say I've taken as much physics as Bryson.

 

He's so full of it when he talks about science and physics.  He will flaunt it but as you say, never say anything tangible that makes any sense whatsoever.  Does it make you smarter calculate barometric pressure on your distances?   Well, most tour pros can you on the range and hit a few shots with their trackman and know how the ball is carrying.  And compared to wind and altitude the effect of pressure is negligible.   So why even bother?   Most of his calculations are just like that.  pure BS.

 

What makes him good is that he works really hard.  His calculations have nothing to do with any of it and only make him a ridiculously slow player.

 

 

 

 

 

[forrester_fire]

47 minutes ago, kasting333 said:

I hope it blows up. It would be awesome to see Bryson be a FA.
 

Manufacturers would be scrambling harder than cobra is now to get in his bag 

 

You really see the other OEMs tripping over themselves to invest the capital in one-length irons and wedges?  How much attention will his equipment needs require from techs that will ultimately take away from their other staffers?  You think DJ, Rory, et al are going to be happy if the Taylormade tour van is spending an inordinate amount of time on his bag vs. theirs?

Edited July 16, 2021 by forrester_fire

[gvogel]

1 hour ago, nikegal said:

Hi GV 🙂 Yes, Sam's friend and fellow tour buddy, Henry Picard, approached Sam when he was having a terrible time with his driver with this George Izette driver, for which Sam ended up paying Mr. Picard $5.25 for the driver. Sam would go on to use the driver for 17+ years, through all of his majors and most of his tour victories. It was actually the steel shaft, versus the head, that was magic for Sam, as it was the strongest/heaviest steel shaft that Izette could locate at the time, and it held up to Sam's extremely fast SS, which was amongst the longest on Tour through his 40's(120-125+). 
 

When Sam finally retired the Izette driver, he went with Toney Penna, who left MacGregor to start his own club manufacturing company. He would just have Mr. Penna put the Wilson Staff sole insert into the driver. The Staff drivers that he carried in his trunk, signed and sold to fans, MAY have been hit a few times on the range, but he NEVER played them, haha. Mr. Penna would also use the strongest steel shafts available at the time, and apparently they were custom made and took longer to produce and get to Mr. Penna to put the heads on and wrap. That is why Sam was so upset when Richard flipped the cart and broke both of his new Penna drivers(along with his Staff 5i and the 9i bent and then Richard fractured it when he tried to straighten it, haha), as the shafts snapped when they came part way out of the bag. I loved Sam but he did not let things go and Pete told me that between he and Richard, Sam was usually upset with one of them by the time that he left Pittsburgh, hahaha. Take care:) Madison

I had a chance to talk to Sam in the clubhouse at the Lower Cascades - back in the late 1970's - and he told me the story of the Izette driver.  He said he got about 50 each year from Wilson, and he would hit them, and he was lucky if he liked one of them.  But he sold them to guys who would go to him for lessons, and wanted to play the same driver that Sam played.

 

I took lessons from a pro in Buffalo who sold a lot of George Izette golf clubs, BTW.

[OBbogey5]

6 minutes ago, PappyVanWinkle53 said:

Ha!  Yes.  Just having some fun.....but to your point, the fact that he's trying to swing like a long drive competitor and getting pissed when his drives fly offline (just like a long drive competitor) leaves me shaking my head.

This is great! Imagine the long drive guys getting pissed and scorning the manus after every missed grid (or complete whiff!) 😄 

 

”Ahh COME ON, Krank!!!?? It’s your fault I swung so hard that I completely missed the balllllll!!!! You suck!!!”

[jmck]

7 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Using that Google thing you referenced, I found 3 sources that all say he earned his degree??? What’s the real deal?

Nah. He’s a year short of an actual degree. Left school when SMU got sanctioned by the NCAA, turned pro early, and never went back.