Bushnell Launch Pro Device with Foresight

[Krt22]

13 minutes ago, WallysWorld said:

2) I was the one who posted this originally. This $4K GC3 pertains to those who already own a FSX license. According to the Foresight rep, GC3 requires an FSX license. So either you buy now for $7K or later maybe 2022, you can buy GC3 without FSX for $4K then activate your unit with your existing license. I'm sure someone will eventually figure out a way to use it without a FSX license but it's too early to determine. 

 

 

 

 

I would not count on that if it is anything like the quad. You need to hook it up to FSX on a semi regular basis ping the mothership, otherwise the unit goes into inoperable mode until you do.

[jmnx973]

Has anyone on here who purchased one gotten a solid ship date yet?  

[WallysWorld]

38 minutes ago, amj6135 said:

2) I don't think that's what they're talking about.  I spoke to a Foresight rep today who said if you buy the Launch Pro from Bushnell for 2999 they will be offering a way for 4,000 dollars to buy yourself out of the subscription model at anytime.  Essentially unlocking your Launch Pro into a "GC3" with the outright ownership of FSX 2020 or whatever the software is at the the time you purchase.   

Yes, that is correct $3K hardware + $4K unlock = same price as the GC3. Confirmed this with Bushnell Golf

[Fairways_and_Greens]

7 minutes ago, WallysWorld said:

Yes, that is correct $3K hardware + $4K unlock = same price as the GC3. Confirmed this with Bushnell Golf

Funny. I ordered the GC3 and my invoice looks like this: 5 and 2 vs 3 and 4.

 

[Emoney220]

15 minutes ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

Funny. I ordered the GC3 and my invoice looks like this: 5 and 2 vs 3 and 4.

 

I have an identical invoice for my order. My only question is it says only five courses, not 10. I am going to ask my sales rep tomorrow about that.

[Jpan08]

39 minutes ago, jmnx973 said:

Has anyone on here who purchased one gotten a solid ship date yet?  

No but they charged my CC lol

Edited October 7, 2021 by Jpan08

[Jpan08]

22 minutes ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

Funny. I ordered the GC3 and my invoice looks like this: 5 and 2 vs 3 and 4.

 

Mine looks like this. Jokingly miffed about the 4 dollar upcharge

[kwayneiu]

I seem to be the only one told they'll do another drop in a couple weeks. Did anyone else get this information or know more? The gentleman I spoke to didn't seem too confident to be honest.

Edited October 7, 2021 by kwayneiu

[jmnx973]

7 minutes ago, Jpan08 said:

No but they charged my CC lol

Yeah. Me too

 

[Brimster]

2 minutes ago, kwayneiu said:

I seem to be the only one told they'll do another drop in a couple weeks. Did anyone else get this information or know more? The gentleman I spoke to didn't seem too confident to be honest.

 

I was told the "real release" is expected in late-October/early-November.  But who knows.

 

[gibbiesmalls]

8 hours ago, WallysWorld said:

 

Good catch.

 

Though I do appreciate that Foresight is now dedicating some resources to the software side of their business, I can't say that anything in this first look wowed me.  

 

Outside of hitting balls at the Eiffel Tower and other landmarks (dumb), I didn't see anything really new. Heck, even the graphics, on first glance, didn't look much different than FSX2020.

 

*Crossing fingers this new release gains ground on Trackman's software *

[bbish937]

17 hours ago, Indygolf21 said:

In that case, not sure why anyone would buy the GC3? 
 

Buy the LP, experiment with the full unlock for a month free, if you like it/need/want the full package, pay the 4k. If you don’t, just do the basic.  

 

17 hours ago, oodavo said:

Or just pay yearly and have the full package for 1 year for $3800. I agree the GC3 route doesn't make sense, Sure paying yearly will get you to the GC3 cost after 5 years or so, but at that point Im sure there will be better/cheaper options. 

 

You are forgetting about resale value, even at a perfect resale value of the LP, $3k after 2-5 years, if you buy the full unlock of $4k or you paid $800 a year for subscription, those cannot be recouped. The resale value of the LP will always be at a MAXIMUM of $3k, whatever more money you put into it subscription based or not you will never get back.

[radiman]

8 minutes ago, bbish937 said:

 

 

You are forgetting about resale value, even at a perfect resale value of the LP, $3k after 2-5 years, if you buy the full unlock of $4k or you paid $800 a year for subscription, those cannot be recouped. The resale value of the LP will always be at a MAXIMUM of $3k, whatever more money you put into it subscription based or not you will never get back.

Isn't the license transferrable?  

[oodavo]

39 minutes ago, bbish937 said:

 

 

You are forgetting about resale value, even at a perfect resale value of the LP, $3k after 2-5 years, if you buy the full unlock of $4k or you paid $800 a year for subscription, those cannot be recouped. The resale value of the LP will always be at a MAXIMUM of $3k, whatever more money you put into it subscription based or not you will never get back.

Ya, i guess that depends if they let you transfer your license. I have zero clue what they have done in the past, but my guess is they would not let you transfer the software side. 

[WallysWorld]

6 hours ago, gibbiesmalls said:

Good catch.

 

Though I do appreciate that Foresight is now dedicating some resources to the software side of their business, I can't say that anything in this first look wowed me.  

 

Outside of hitting balls at the Eiffel Tower and other landmarks (dumb), I didn't see anything really new. Heck, even the graphics, on first glance, didn't look much different than FSX2020.

 

*Crossing fingers this new release gains ground on Trackman's software *

I agree that I hope the graphics are a lot better than the teaser. I would not be surprised if Vista Outdoors goes after a GS Pro. This is exactly what Trackman did with JNPG

[bbish937]

I don't know if this has been asked but does the GC3 do putting? I know it doesn't have putting analysis, but in FSX could you still putt? Or "putting analysis" means it can't read puts at all...

[Jpan08]

3 minutes ago, oodavo said:

Ya, i guess that depends if they let you transfer your license. I have zero clue what they have done in the past, but my guess is they would not let you transfer the software side. 

 

When I was looking into used GC quads there was a $1000 license transfer fee

 

1 minute ago, bbish937 said:

I don't know if this has been asked but does the GC3 do putting? I know it doesn't have putting analysis, but in FSX could you still putt? Or "putting analysis" means it can't read puts at all...

 

I've been told is can track puts for simulator purposes, but obviously no putting analysis like the quad

[clevited]

13 hours ago, Krt22 said:

I would not count on that if it is anything like the quad. You need to hook it up to FSX on a semi regular basis ping the mothership, otherwise the unit goes into inoperable mode until you do.

 

Can you elaborate on this?  Inoperable meaning can't even use on the range or inoperable as far as connecting to any simulation software?

[radiman]

2 minutes ago, clevited said:

 

Can you elaborate on this?  Inoperable meaning can't even use on the range or inoperable as far as connecting to any simulation software?

This is in their manual.

 

[clevited]

4 minutes ago, radiman said:

This is in their manual.

 

 

Thanks!

[radiman]

1 minute ago, clevited said:

 

Thanks!

No problem.  I can understand checking in once in a while.  But, every 45 days seems excessive.  It also has to be connected to the internet once every 14 days or it won't connect to apps, at least according to the manual.  Not sure if the Launch Pro would be the same.  Just seems extremely aggressive on their part to require such a short window before the device needs to phone home.  

GC3 User Manual.pdf

[clevited]

8 minutes ago, radiman said:

No problem.  I can understand checking in once in a while.  But, every 45 days seems excessive.  It also has to be connected to the internet once every 14 days or it won't connect to apps, at least according to the manual.  Not sure if the Launch Pro would be the same.  Just seems extremely aggressive on their part to require such a short window before the device needs to phone home.  

GC3 User Manual.pdf 8.86 MB · 2 downloads

 

It doesn't seem to say specifically that it needs FSX to renew/register.  I wouldn't doubt that it does if the Quad does.  I am kinda hoping a guy could sell FSX 2020 and still use the GC3 for E6 and what have you.  I really don't want FSX.

[radiman]

2 minutes ago, clevited said:

 

It doesn't seem to say specifically that it needs FSX to renew/register.  I wouldn't doubt that it does if the Quad does.  I am kinda hoping a guy could sell FSX 2020 and still use the GC3 for E6 and what have you.  I really don't want FSX.

Hmm, that is a good question.  I am not sure how the integration works.  If the 3rd party sim software reads what FSX outputs and uses that data for its simulation.  Can you buy a quad without a FSX license? 

[clevited]

3 minutes ago, radiman said:

Hmm, that is a good question.  I am not sure how the integration works.  If the 3rd party sim software reads what FSX outputs and uses that data for its simulation.  Can you buy a quad without a FSX license? 

 

It doesn't look like you can buy any launch monitor from FS without also buying their software.  That is how they get you, and also how they force their imo, lack luster and overly expensive software on you.

[radiman]

1 minute ago, clevited said:

 

It doesn't look like you can buy any launch monitor from FS without also buying their software.  That is how they get you, and also how they force their imo, lack luster and overly expensive software on you.

Maybe someone with some knowhow will figure out a way to jailbreak the firmware or something haha.  Then we can just buy the Launch Pro and go with whatever software we want.  A guy can dream. 

[amj6135]

1 hour ago, bbish937 said:

 

 

You are forgetting about resale value, even at a perfect resale value of the LP, $3k after 2-5 years, if you buy the full unlock of $4k or you paid $800 a year for subscription, those cannot be recouped. The resale value of the LP will always be at a MAXIMUM of $3k, whatever more money you put into it subscription based or not you will never get back.

I don’t think that’s true if you unlock your LP it’s the same license as the GC3 so resale would be the same.  Now there is no recouping yearly fees

[gibbiesmalls]

1 hour ago, bbish937 said:

I don't know if this has been asked but does the GC3 do putting? I know it doesn't have putting analysis, but in FSX could you still putt? Or "putting analysis" means it can't read puts at all...

Yes, the GC3 will do putting (ball data)

 

Even the GC2 does putting.

 

 

[Luke.Sutton]

33 minutes ago, amj6135 said:

I don’t think that’s true if you unlock your LP it’s the same license as the GC3 so resale would be the same.  Now there is no recouping yearly fees

Are you sure the GC3 software side is transferable? From what I vaguely remember reading in the manual it’s a 1 time computer activation for $4k. Quad you can transfer for a $1k. I’ve heard of people just selling the gaming computer with the quad and using a random gmail address for the account to avoid transfer fees. 

[gibbiesmalls]

30 minutes ago, amj6135 said:

I don’t think that’s true if you unlock your LP it’s the same license as the GC3 so resale would be the same.  Now there is no recouping yearly fees

It would seem silly to me to purchase (unlock) the FSX license for the purposes of reselling your unit. You'd effectively be taking a loss on top of the resale value loss for the LP.   

 

The point bbish937 was making was that you own none of the $4000 worth of software (assuming 5 years worth of subscription) with the LP,  so when trying to resell your LP, the max you'll get for it is 3k (unlikely). Whereas with a GC3, assuming you resell it after 5 years of ownership as well you you'd get resell value for both the hardware and the software.

[jimmies78]

6 minutes ago, Luke.Sutton said:

Are you sure the GC3 software side is transferable? From what I vaguely remember reading in the manual it’s a 1 time computer activation for $4k. Quad you can transfer for a $1k. I’ve heard of people just selling the gaming computer with the quad and using a random gmail address for the account to avoid transfer fees. 

Surely not 1k to transfer between computers??.... what if you upgrade your gaming laptop for a new one....and yes I'd always use a burner email for these devices....I even have one for my R10 incase I sell it which is very possible and at least that way the new owner can still have the e6 courses