Olympics Golf

[Oneput]

After the thrilling Evian final round, I am looking forward to seeing the ladies (and men) Olympics golf!

 

A strong ladies field led by the Kordas, Saso, Minjee (Evian champ) and defending Gold Inbee Park just to name a few.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Oneput
correction

[Raving Shanker]

I am tipping Inbee to go back to back. Right now she's on a green somewhere figuring out what went wrong at Evian.

[JungleJimbo]

On 7/26/2021 at 2:02 PM, Oneput said:

After the thrilling Evian final round, I am looking forward to seeing the ladies (and men) Olympics golf!

 

A strong ladies field led by the Kordas, Saso, Minjee (Evian champ) and defending Gold Inbee Park just to name a few.

The final fields for the Olympics Golf = published here. (https://www.igfgolf.org/tokyo-2020-olympic-golf-rankings)

 

The Women's Final Field, updated on 22^nd July 2021, is available for download here.
 

The Women's Reallocation Reserve List, , updated on 22^nd July 2021, may be found here. <== I found this 'Reserve List' an interesting read ... e.g.  many folks have said the South Korean ladies Olympics qualifying = the most difficult/competitive ...

 

..SoYeon Ryu = the South Korean team's first alternate... 

..i will confess i didn't recognise the name "Min Park" as South Korea's 2nd alternate (16th on the Rolex Rankings & couldn't qualify for the Olympics! (six wins on the KLPGA tour in 2021!)

 

..Edit: Park MinJi won her SEVENTH KLGA tournament last weekend (July 25-ish)! Is anybody else aware of this phenom ranked amongst top16 in world , but isn’t playing on the LPGA?

 

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by JungleJimbo

[Argonne69]

The course looks great. 

 

[ChronicSlicer]

13 hours ago, Argonne69 said:

The course looks great. 

 

It had better look great, it's the Olympics not the VOA. 😀

[KBong]

8 hours ago, ChronicSlicer said:

It had better look great, it's the Olympics not the VOA. 😀

I sometimes watch the JLPGA on a stream...all the courses they play on the JLPGA are immaculate.

 

Golf is so expensive in Japan and S. Korea so they don't get the goofballs I see here at public courses....driving their carts all over the place, not replacing divots, fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, etc etc etc

[TerpFangolfer]

4 hours ago, KBong said:

I sometimes watch the JLPGA on a stream...all the courses they play on the JLPGA are immaculate.

 

Golf is so expensive in Japan and S. Korea so they don't get the goofballs I see here at public courses....driving their carts all over the place, not replacing divots, fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, etc etc etc

I've played a couple times in S.K, never in Japan (still on my list) and another advantage is I'm pretty sure every round is played with caddies. The caddies even drive the carts...I played one course in SK where the clubs were on a rail system contraption down the side of each hole. Definitely strange...but point is the caddies are very diligent with course care, so yes big improvement- but as you said its very $$$$!

[Golf Dino]

5 hours ago, TerpFangolfer said:

I've played a couple times in S.K, never in Japan (still on my list) and another advantage is I'm pretty sure every round is played with caddies. The caddies even drive the carts...I played one course in SK where the clubs were on a rail system contraption down the side of each hole. Definitely strange...but point is the caddies are very diligent with course care, so yes big improvement- but as you said its very $$$$!

 

Of all the times I played in Japan, the carts were "self driving" ... using an automated system that knew exactly where the cart was at all times.  It never left the cart path so we grab our clubs and head out to the fairway after stopping the cart. 

 

Another thing about the courses was the maintenance.  Where we played the "rough" was a very different experience than what many in Europe and North America are used to ... or perhaps even outside of Japan.  But, the rough was manicured in the style of a Japanese garden.  The grounds  crew were using little scissors to trim the plants!  There were little bonsai trees, chrysanthemums, flowers, and Japanese pine trees, all manicured that I refused to play my wayward shot out of the "rough" . . . it would have been like playing it out of my mother's garden and if I had done that, there would have beenn H$LL to pay!  So I took a drop instead.   

 

Also, what I love about Japanese golf courses, is that in many cases after completing the first nine, we all stop for lunch in the clubhouse and then are reinserted into our timeslot after lunch.  All groups do it so no one loses their spot!   

 

[BadgerLin]

57 minutes ago, Golf Dino said:

 

 

Also, what I love about Japanese golf courses, is that in many cases after completing the first nine, we all stop for lunch in the clubhouse and then are reinserted into our timeslot after lunch.  All groups do it so no one loses their spot!   

 

What a great idea!

[HMHS]

On the way to Mt Fuji, there's tons of driving ranges that seemingly were "etched" out/"carved out" of mountains -- needless to say, I tried one of them and ended up not heading to Mt Fuji that day LOL...   Stayed overnight on a resort/hotel and continued the drive/trek up the next day (2019 - pre-covid, at the same time when I saw Hinako win Anessa ☺︎....)

[KBong]

7 hours ago, BadgerLin said:

What a great idea!

???
Then why does everyone here b*tch about rds over 4 hrs?🤣

 

It's so rare here to golf/walk in under 4 hrs here...the courses are busy....twilight is cheap...so it's a popular time to play golf....tough to get tee times then.

[Argonne69]

17 hours ago, KBong said:

???
Then why does everyone here b*tch about rds over 4 hrs?🤣

 

It's so rare here to golf/walk in under 4 hrs here...the courses are busy....twilight is cheap...so it's a popular time to play golf....tough to get tee times then.

 

Yeah, I dunno about a mid round lunch. I read an article years ago about a club in England. Sundays were called the day of thirds. They'd play a morning round (four ball) in 3 hours, have a three hour gourmet lunch, and then have a three hour afternoon round. Now, that's my idea of golf. 4+ hour rounds drive me nuts. When I played The Old Course at St Andrews, I took over 100 photos, and it was still 3:40. 

 

Edited July 31, 2021 by Argonne69

[Golf Dino]

I have not been to Japan in about 8 years, so some things may have changed. However, Golf in Japan is still very much a social sport more than a recreational sport for the masses in that golf courses, because of the scarcity of land, are often built on mountains and up, off the valley floors.  Because of costs associated with such development and maintenance, they charge a significantly higher fee to play. 

 

To the best of my knowledge, and admittedly it is a bit dated now, there are little to no municipal courses in operation.  Golf for the masses occurs in driving ranges and indoor golf simulators.  As mentioned elsewhere by myself and others, these are not the practice ranges that we associate with Tin Cup, or even at most of our courses in North America.  It is in more "upscale" venues that the masses get to experience golf. 

 

As for the courses, Golf is very much used to entertain guests, dignataries and commemorate business relationships -- much more than it is in North America.  And that is where the mid-round lunch becomes important as does the "apres golf" and dinner.   To be sure, there are places that I visited that offered memberships and many fashionable young women play together, older men play with guests, etc.   These facilities are like 5-Star hotels with the level of service and hospitality provided inside.   Their bag drop off areas actually have people working them to unload your clubs, get your cart and equipment ready.  You get assigned a locker for the day, etc. 

 

When playing with a business guest or important guest, the guest never pays.  It would be an insult to your host.  What is unspoken, but expected, is to present your host with a nice gift - for example a bottle of their favourite higher end whisky, nicely wrapped in a box or gift bag.  When the host visits in return, the guest then has the duty to play host and the same treatment is reciprocated.    

 

In Japanese business culture it is very much an important way of establishing relationships and building trust.  As is said by P.G. Wodehouse: "To find a man's true character, play golf with him."  

So it is best to not act boorish, be on good behaviour, no smacking clubs in frustration, no F-Bombs, (they do understand that word), if anything, bring a large dose of self-deprecating humour and courtesy and you'll get along famously.  Once you become friends over time (it happens), then it becomes acceptable to be more open within your circle of friends. 

 

@Argonne69 . . . so my apologies for being a bit long here, but it is a bit challenging describing the Japanese golf experience.

 

Edited July 31, 2021 by Golf Dino

[Argonne69]

I was surprised to learn that there are 2450 courses in Japan. I would have expected the number to be much lower. Japan is ~10% smaller than California. California has 921 courses. 

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Argonne69

[HMHS]

18 hours ago, Golf Dino said:

I have not been to Japan in about 8 years, so some things may have changed. However, Golf in Japan is still very much a social sport more than a recreational sport for the masses in that golf courses, because of the scarcity of land, are often built on mountains and up, off the valley floors.  Because of costs associated with such development and maintenance, they charge a significantly higher fee to play. 

 

To the best of my knowledge, and admittedly it is a bit dated now, there are little to no municipal courses in operation.  Golf for the masses occurs in driving ranges and indoor golf simulators.  As mentioned elsewhere by myself and others, these are not the practice ranges that we associate with Tin Cup, or even at most of our courses in North America.  It is in more "upscale" venues that the masses get to experience golf. 

 

As for the courses, Golf is very much used to entertain guests, dignataries and commemorate business relationships -- much more than it is in North America.  And that is where the mid-round lunch becomes important as does the "apres golf" and dinner.   To be sure, there are places that I visited that offered memberships and many fashionable young women play together, older men play with guests, etc.   These facilities are like 5-Star hotels with the level of service and hospitality provided inside.   Their bag drop off areas actually have people working them to unload your clubs, get your cart and equipment ready.  You get assigned a locker for the day, etc. 

 

When playing with a business guest or important guest, the guest never pays.  It would be an insult to your host.  What is unspoken, but expected, is to present your host with a nice gift - for example a bottle of their favourite higher end whisky, nicely wrapped in a box or gift bag.  When the host visits in return, the guest then has the duty to play host and the same treatment is reciprocated.    

 

In Japanese business culture it is very much an important way of establishing relationships and building trust.  As is said by P.G. Wodehouse: "To find a man's true character, play golf with him."  

So it is best to not act boorish, be on good behaviour, no smacking clubs in frustration, no F-Bombs, (they do understand that word), if anything, bring a large dose of self-deprecating humour and courtesy and you'll get along famously.  Once you become friends over time (it happens), then it becomes acceptable to be more open within your circle of friends. 

 

@Argonne69 . . . so my apologies for being a bit long here, but it is a bit challenging describing the Japanese golf experience.

 

To see and to do it,  is to believe! ☺︎  But yes, I have no affiliation with Japan, nor do I have any tinge of Japanese blood in me (as far as I know) yet the country and the people will continue to amaze me.  (Obvious already based on the history of my posts in golfwrx LOL).  

 

And confirming the host/guest experience too -- have both been a host and a guest (in Japan and a host to Japanese here in Canada, US, Singapore, etc).  My Japanese friends ALWAYS tell me that: "you return the favor when it's our/my turn to visit you"...  

 

Oh, addendum:  It is for this exact reason, why, Yuka Saso, decided to move to the Philippines to play golf and pursue it -- cheaper in Manila than it is in Japan - Yuka does not come from a rich family (middle class will not afford her the chance to play golf in Japan as much as she could do it in the Philippines).  Hence, why to ME (And only to me, for now) why it will be "Controversial yet completely understandable" if she decides to ditch the Philippines for Japan after the Olympics.  I can't blame her for that, but of course, it'll be "disappointing" 

Edited August 1, 2021 by HMHS
Addendum of Yuka

[Golf Dino]

29 minutes ago, Supermilo said:

To see and to do it,  is to believe! ☺︎  But yes, I have no affiliation with Japan, nor do I have any tinge of Japanese blood in me (as far as I know) yet the country and the people will continue to amaze me.  (Obvious already based on the history of my posts in golfwrx LOL).  

 

And confirming the host/guest experience too -- have both been a host and a guest (in Japan and a host to Japanese here in Canada, US, Singapore, etc).  My Japanese friends ALWAYS tell me that: "you return the favor when it's our/my turn to visit you"...  

 

Oh, addendum:  It is for this exact reason, why, Yuka Saso, decided to move to the Philippines to play golf and pursue it -- cheaper in Manila than it is in Japan - Yuka does not come from a rich family (middle class will not afford her the chance to play golf in Japan as much as she could do it in the Philippines).  Hence, why to ME (And only to me, for now) why it will be "Controversial yet completely understandable" if she decides to ditch the Philippines for Japan after the Olympics.  I can't blame her for that, but of course, it'll be "disappointing" 

 

It is not just you ... unless you are referring to the people following this forum.  Otherwise as you know, it is still a much thought about topic in the Philippines -- though they are all cheering her and Bianca on this week for the Olympics.  

[HMHS]

Just now, Golf Dino said:

 

It is not just you ... unless you are referring to the people following this forum.  Otherwise as you know, it is still a much thought about topic in the Philippines -- though they are all cheering her and Bianca on this week for the Olympics.  

Yes, I just want to make sure I am not inadvertently offending others who are not privy to the forum conversation (and even to those who are) - or to the Japanese in this forum who will stand to benefit from such a talent ☺︎   

 

 

[Oneput]

The competition begins Tuesday, August 3rd.

[HMHS]

22 minutes ago, Oneput said:

The competition begins Tuesday, August 3rd.

Thanks for the heads up - I originally thought the start was Wednesday night ET (like the men's).  Mustve been sleep deprivation LOL...

 

  If the past 4 days are any indication, coffee makers should buy some airtime on the GC.     

[18majors]

Inbee/Lydia/ Shanshan, Nasa/Jin Young/Nelly and etc.

 

The featured groups

[Rapidcat]

16 hours ago, Supermilo said:

Thanks for the heads up - I originally thought the start was Wednesday night ET (like the men's).  Mustve been sleep deprivation LOL...

 

  If the past 4 days are any indication, coffee makers should buy some airtime on the GC.     

For once with golf coverage, being in Oz is a win - early morning to late afternoon time for me.

 

Really looking forward to this, enjoyed the men's comp more than I expected.

[Argonne69]

It'll be interesting to see how Shanshan plays after taking her latest break. If the match play tournament was any indication, she'll quietly earn another medal. Lol.

 

[8602081]

5 hours ago, 18majors said:

Inbee/Lydia/ Shanshan, Nasa/Jin Young/Nelly and etc.

 

The featured groups

 

Is that Gold, Silver, and Bronze winnders from last Olympics in the same group?

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by 8602081

[KBong]

5 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

It'll be interesting to see how Shanshan plays after taking her latest break. If the match play tournament was any indication, she'll quietly earn another medal. Lol.

 

I know someone on this site who would freak out/HATE it if Jenny Money won.

 

Yup....no reason why Feng couldn't take down another medal.

But if I was to root for a fellow countrywoman...it would be Janet, Xiyu Lin.

Go China Go!

 

If they are allowed to have food deliveries in Japan (Olympic protocol restrictions???)....tons of GREAT food....I could see Jenny Money win because her LUV for food.

 

Inbee won in Rio...she had played infrequently in 2016 due to injury....I think many thought she might be near DFL because of her absence from golf.

[KBong]

Just now, 8602081 said:

 

Is that Gold, Silver, and Bronze winnders from last Olympics?

 

 

Yup

[KBong]

OK

This is a new course for all...so everyone is on a level playing field....therefore near impossible to pick the 3 medal winners.

 

Therefore I'm picking my fav's vs. who might actually medal.

 

I'm going with Lydia, Jin Young, Aza, Jodi Hyphen

I wish Dumbo or the LOVELY Hee Young Park were in Japan.

[Argonne69]

3 minutes ago, KBong said:

Yup

 

The should have had the winners of the first three majors in the other group, Patty, Yuka, and Nelly.

 

[KBong]

7 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

 

The should have had the winners of the first three majors in the other group, Patty, Yuka, and Nelly.

 

Or make an exception for a 4some.....Patty, Yuka, Nelly & Minjee....though the Evian is a FAKE major...ok...we'll stick with just a 3some🤣

 

I LUV Drama....and I can't think of any players to group where there would be tension....looks the the era of the "Mean Girls" is over.

Can you or others think of a group?

 

Too bad Salas didn't qualify...otherwise we could have a group called:

"SLOW MO"

Lydia, Brooke and Lizette all slow playing one another.

[Argonne69]

4 minutes ago, KBong said:

Or make an exception for a 4some.....Patty, Yuka, Nelly & Minjee....though the Evian is a FAKE major...ok...we'll stick with just a 3some🤣

 

I LUV Drama....and I can't think of any players to group where there would be tension....looks the the era of the "Mean Girls" is over.

Can you or others think of a group?

 

Too bad Salas didn't qualify...otherwise we could have a group called:

"SLOW MO"

Lydia, Brooke and Lizette all slow playing one another.

 

No, I'd swap Lydia for Carlota.

 

Too bad Charley isn't playing. I'd put Nelly, Jessica, and Charley in a group behind them, and watch them hit into them all day.

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by Argonne69

[Lobby]

I'm excited to see this.