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I recently bought a set of i210 irons 4-W.  I’m now thinking I might like to add a 50* wedge (next wedge is a 54/8 Mizuno T20).  Not sure whether to go for the set U wedge or the 50* Glide 3.0?  I have the AWT 2.0 shafts in the irons.

 

Any thoughts on what, if any, differences I might notice?

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Bounce is different by a degree (i210 has more), my hunch is the perimeter weighting is more on the i210. It looks like the elastomer insert area is smaller on the Glide 3.0, at least compared to my Eye2 grind. But I think they'd be more alike than different, at least compared to other wedges.

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The glide will give you some options for the bounce you want if the set wedge isn’t where you want it.   

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2 hours ago, Joe40 said:

I recently bought a set of i210 irons 4-W.  I’m now thinking I might like to add a 50* wedge (next wedge is a 54/8 Mizuno T20).  Not sure whether to go for the set U wedge or the 50* Glide 3.0?  I have the AWT 2.0 shafts in the irons.

 

Any thoughts on what, if any, differences I might notice?

I have the same iron set up and play a GLIDE 2.0 "gorge" 50*...  I really like this wedge as it has proven to be very versatile...  I play longer greenside bunker shots with it and it is very easy to flight down for those 50 - 80 yard shots from the fairway.  With that said I did pick up an i210 "U wedge" just because it was too good of a deal to pass up.  A guy on the book of faces was selling one that he had only hit at the range a few times for $75...  I probably could have put the $75 to better use such as a night out for beer and wings but it is practically brand new and I can always use another golf club.  I have not yet hit it at the range or on course and don't know when I will...

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I went with Glide's for my PW and up as they are more versatile.  If just using the gap wedge for full shots only, I'd go with the set wedge.  If you need to flight shots down, chips etc., I'd go to the Glide.  

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I had a similar dilemma as I recently purchased the ZX5 irons 5-PW  (44° PW) and wondered whether to get the set GW or the CBX2 50°. I wanted the set GW but there would've been about a two month wait whereas the CBX2 was available immediately. So I bought the CBX 2 and I'm pretty happy with it. Fills the distance gap in the set very well and seems solid on full swings as well as being versatile around the green. I think I probably would have been happy with either TBH. 

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I had both and ended up keeping the glide 3.0.  I would have been fine with the i210 but liked the glide better for opening the face and chipping around the greens as well as for partial shots.  On full shots it made no difference.  Really both are good.  If you use it mostly for full shots I might lean towards the set wedge and if you play different shots and chip if lean towards the glide 3.0.

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I had some i210s with a glide 3.0 46*.  While I am a huge fan of Pings wedges, I'd be careful.  For me, the Glide spun off the planet so hitting a full PW into greens was never really what I needed it to be.  That said, I do have a 52* Glide 2.0 stealth that seems to be much better.  Can still spin it, but I am rarely going full throttle.  If you can find the right wedge, they are fantastic and not to be overlooked.

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I mainly use my sand wedge for chipping (it’s only 8 degrees of bounce) so this would be nearly always for full shots.  The S18 50/7 just doesn’t seem to go that well on full swings, don’t know if it’s down to the low bounce or relative lack of forgiveness or both?  Feels a bit harsh too next to the i210 irons.

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I have the U-wedge in my i210 set and it's one of my favorite clubs.  I agree with the above that it's basically a traditional loft PW and I treat it as such.

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I love the glide wedges in 56 and 60, but I found that the gap and PW were a bit inconsistent for me.
 

I checked what the bounce on my set PW and AW would have been closer to, and found it to be way way less than that of the glides in those lofts (which is 12 for a 46 vs 6 or 7 in my set). As such, lower bounce wedges worked better for me in the 46 and 51 slot

 

this said, the i210s appear to have higher bounces than my irons so it may not be as much of an issue for you

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I think you can't go wrong with either.

I like to use the set gap wedge and play with the glide wedges in 54 and 60. I would think the glide 50 would be just fine if I didn't have the set wedge.

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I used to have a set gap wedge but switched to the glide 3.0 50 degree 12 bounce. It’s been a game changer for me. I don’t take full shots with my wedge, mostly 3/4 swings. This is my max 120 club but I love using it around the green. I’m not good at bump and runs with 8/9 iron bc I can never judge the distance roll. I use this club in similar situations and feel I can judge the spin better and get much closer to the hole. I used to use my 56/60 (fancy shots) in these situations but after switching to this 50 have shaved at least 3 strokes off per round. 

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4 hours ago, Joe40 said:

It’s full shots mainly for me, and I’m not a long hitter, so sounds like the i210 is the way to go.

 

This.   The Ping U wedges blend seamlessly with their iron sets.  I say this as someone with both a U and a Glide 50.  

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I love the i210 W with the set, added the UW later, but have not really worked with it.  I hit it a few times and did not really like the bounce (hitting it thin)….I have Vokeys, so probably just not used to it……..

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As an owner of the club on question, my thoughts are that it’s a great club on full shots, and worlds better than the typical set gap wedge. If you never use a gap wedge for chips and pitches, and aren’t generally happy with “traditional” wedges, it’s a fine choice.

 

That said, I never carry it for actual play. The combination of high bounce and large sole area make a traditional wedge like the Vokey  grossly better for partial shots and difficult lies.

 

If you’re happy with a handicap in the teens, the i210. If you are going to put in the time and effort to go beyond that, finding a wedge solution that matches your swing and playing conditions is pretty much a prerequisite IMO.

 

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4 hours ago, Golfer_Z said:

I used to have a set gap wedge but switched to the glide 3.0 50 degree 12 bounce. It’s been a game changer for me. I don’t take full shots with my wedge, mostly 3/4 swings.

 

@Joe40,This is the traditional tie-breaker. If you would use your gap wedge for a lot of full shots, consider going with set UW. If you use it mainly for partials, go with specialty wedges for G, S and L.

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I just went through this myself. I have a set of i210 on order, got fitted at club champion. I have a 50° CBX2 I bought this spring. Fitter told me the CBX2 is a more forgiving club and better for full and partial shots. I called back a week later with some regret for not ordering that set wedge and he again said the Cleveland is the better club and I’d be wasting my money. So I’ve been impatiently waiting for my damn irons to show up and have been getting some more time in with the Cleveland and really liking it!

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Several PING touring pros have the i210 U wedge in their bag so I don’t think it’s a handicap thing. Stewart Cink recently won the RBC Heritage with the i210 U wedge in the bag.

 

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I went for the i210 wedge in the end.  I figured that we’re maybe not too far away from i210 being discontinued, whereas Glide or equivalents will be around for a while.  It would be a shame if I wanted the i210 in a years time and couldn’t get it.

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I’ve never had a set gap wedge and have always played a glide since getting the i200s. I just ordered an i210 UW to experiment with and compare against the glide 2.0. I don’t have confidence with the glide with a full swing, but I do like it for 3/4 and some green side shots. For me I think the deal breaker will be whether I can fight the i210 UW down on 3/4 shots, or whether it will want to spin and balloon. 

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For the first time in my life I went with an “iron” in the i210 U-wedge for that gap and it’s been the best decision…stock 120yd club, and no issues with impact.  It’s a very confident club whereas the more wedge-style head you can have small sacrifices there.  Worth noting that I don’t chip with it where’s it’s a full-swing club for me.  To each their own, but my experience & opinion.

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18 hours ago, Joe40 said:

I went for the i210 wedge in the end.  I figured that we’re maybe not too far away from i210 being discontinued, whereas Glide or equivalents will be around for a while.  It would be a shame if I wanted the i210 in a years time and couldn’t get it.

Good call.  Try both though.  It might be more of a visual preference when it comes to full and partial shots.  Versatility with a gap wedge around the greens?  Set wedge is still versatile for me: square, toe down, slightly open, bunker, using bounce to skid on a tight lie, or chopping down from a sketchy lie... same as previous specialty gap wedges I used.  Maybe a little less spin than a specialty wedge which is what I like from a GW chip and full shot.

 

I'll take more heel / toe relief and a more rounded leading edge on SW and LW though.  Not trying to open up a gap wedge while keeping the leading edge low, or hack out of deep greenside rough.  I'll just use SW ot LW at that point.

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