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Busted out my Sonartec SS-3.5 yesterday on the Trackman. Wow does this thing still hold up to today’s 3 woods. Fastest ball speeds I’ve ever registered with a 3 wood, and was hitting it 285 off the tee. It’s a 13.5, and I struggled off the deck, but man was the sound/feel incredible. I’m definitely on the lookout for some more now in good condition. 
 

Anyone else have similar results with breaking out oldish clubs? Anyone still gaming any Sonartec products? 

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I have an early to mid 2000's "vintage" bag with a Titleist 905R driver, 904F fairway woods, and Mizuno MP 30 irons. All of it is pretty much just as good as anything new.

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PING G400 Max 10.5° GD YS Nano Reloaded 6X                                            

TaylorMade SIM2 Max 16.5° 3HL Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'Li 70 X                                                       

Callaway V-Series 19° 5 wood Mitsubishi Diamana Kai'Li 80 S                                                         

PING G410 22°, 26° & 30° Hybrids KBS Steel Hybrid Shaft X                                               

Adams A4 Forged 7-PW Dynamic Gold AMT X100 D4                                                                        

Cleveland CBX 50°, 55° Dynamic Gold S400

Cleveland CBX Full Face 60° Dynamic Gold Tour Spinner

Odyssey 2-Ball Blade w/Triple Trac

Vice Pro Plus Lime

                                              

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I recently acquired DCI irons and Big Bertha fairway woods from the same era. I built a long driver from a TM R7. I am also trying an 8802 putter which I believe helps me with distance control (I had one before I should have never let it go).

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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That's all I've been playing since I started this game 20 years ago since they're affordable and can keep up with the latest and greatest (when it on the button) since golf tech has been stagnant for years and years.

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10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft (Stiff flex)
Titleist 990 (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold in S300
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts (Regular Flex)
2011 Adams Tom Watson signature wedges in 52 and 56 degrees with stock steel shafts (Player's Grind)
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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I'm still playing an old TEE XCG 13* titanium 3-wood with a Whiteboard shaft that's pure'd, its crazy good off the tee and still quite good off the deck despite the low loft.  The titanium sound and feel is so addictive that it's taken me 10 years to consider going to another 3 wood, I think these came out around 2008.

Ping G400 MAX 9° Motore Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec S

Mizuno ST-3 15° 3W Ventus Blue Velocore 70S

Tour Edge Exotics EXS Pro 19° 3H HZRDUS Smoke Black 80X
                                                  PXG 0211 XCOR2 Xtreme Dark 5-GW Mitsubishi MMT 80S
Edison 55°/59° DG 115 S200 Tour Issue
Edel EAS 4.0
Camino Sunday Bag
Titleist ProV1
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I hit my backup driver (Titleist 905r) with an off the rack Proforce V2 X/flex shaft from 2006 regularly, and get the same ball speeds as I do with my Ping G410lst with a TX flex shaft  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

My 5 wood is a ladies 19* Adams Tight lies from 2013 with a Evenflow Black 85 6.0 in it. 

 

If I could have found a short money shallow faced Sonartec / Royal Collection wood in decent shape, I would have bagged it most definitely. 
 

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To be honest, I still miss some of the old clubs I played with. And what's hilarious is how much cheaper they were. The old titleist 980f fairways were some of my favorite, I paid $40 for it 15 years ago. I took one to the range the other day and was amazed at how well I hit them. I'd say newer tech is more forgiving on bad strikes but really doesn't matter as much on good strikes.

 

The thing missing from modern clubs is the feel in my opinion. A lot of those clubs weren't designed by an R&D team, so they just were better looking and sounding clubs. The carbon crown stuff all feels a little off, and 5+ years later I still trade performance for feel.

LTDx LS 11.5* - Tensei White 65X

G430 Max 15* - Ping Chrome 75S

King Tec Hybrid 19* - MMT 80S

T150 4-PW - PX 6.5

SM8 50F, 54S, 60M

White Hot OG 7CH

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I had a Nicklaus air max 3 Wood that I loved when I was younger. I wanna say the shaft was graphite but had a steel tip, but I can’t find anything like that anywhere online so must be going crazy.

 

club was straight as an arrow though, I think it’s still at my parents’ house and will play it next month when I visit 

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14 hours ago, cmporto10 said:

Busted out my Sonartec SS-3.5 yesterday on the Trackman. Wow does this thing still hold up to today’s 3 woods. Fastest ball speeds I’ve ever registered with a 3 wood, and was hitting it 285 off the tee. It’s a 13.5, and I struggled off the deck, but man was the sound/feel incredible. I’m definitely on the lookout for some more now in good condition. 
 

Anyone else have similar results with breaking out oldish clubs? Anyone still gaming any Sonartec products? 

I'm using a Royal Collection (JP Sonartec) 17 degree  V7 Ti - I get it out there pretty well. Nice shaft too ATTAS g7 7x...

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