Titleist Pro V1 Left Dot Retail Release?

[monks66]

dont get why its a limited release?? come on I never new a Titleist golf ball to not get attention 

[monks66]

18 hours ago, NNJ said:

I just played 9 holes with them…long off the driver for sure, but felt much better off irons and wedges than the left dash which I also have played. I felt like the compression also led to more distance for me than the AVX and they seemed to spin a bit more on the scoring clubs. If these are the were not limited they would be my ball

i could see myself playing them too...in yellow 🙂

[dwboston]

40 minutes ago, monks66 said:

dont get why its a limited release?? come on I never new a Titleist golf ball to not get attention 

 

There was a Team Titleist video call a few days ago about the CPO ball program where they claimed they literally don't have enough stock of the Left Dot ball.  I hope it does get released because I'd play it as my regular ball.  

[tsecor]

Here is my update on the left dot. I have been testing a ton of balls this summer and this was my final comparison....i used the BXS and the left dot this weekend...18 holes each. This is long winded so i apologize in advance.

 

ok, so here is my update after playing the left dot and bxs for 18 holes each.....i wanted to test the left dot again and do a direct comparison to the BXS. I will say i had a very good "swing weekend" where i felt fluid and loose....i made very good contact on most shots and i am glad because when i am not swinging well, its hard to tell if a ball is good or bad for you.

 

2021 BXS - the previous version did not work for me at all....waaaaay too much spin and it was a balloon ball.  The 2021 version is very different off the driver as its very obvious they engineered the spin rates to be lower.  The feel of this ball is very nice....I hit it well, but my dispersion off the driver was worse than i hoped for. I usually play a baby draw off the driver and if i missed this just slightly, it flew 20 yards off center and with the roll out, it made it even worse. Its not a super long ball for me either. I usually can get 260-275 out of my driver and this was about where i was with this ball....my yardages average 265 for the mnost part according to the range finder.  Mid iron shots were fine, very comparable to many other balls out there. Nothing too spectacular or nothing bad. Its a very consistent ball off the irons. on 7 or 8 iron shots into the green, it performed fine. i was hitting it wekk and the trajectory was not my ideal, but it wasnt bad. I just felt i had to give it a little extra oompff to get it to the hole.  Around the green (30 yards and in), it performed very well. I really lioke this ball in the short game. It checks up nicely and i felt comfortable getting up and down with the BXS.  my conslusion is, i could play this ball and be fine with it, but it wouldnt make my top 3 balls for the year. It reminds me of the new TP5x. its a solid ball, just not spectacular for me or anything different. It does its job and has a few hilights, but overall its a bit "boring"  if that makes any sense. The feel is great but visually, i have issues.....I really do not like the logo or the dual dimple design. Looking down at the ball, it bothers me slightly.....i know thats insane and i have to get over that but hard clicky balls really bothers me too, and i was able to get past that this summer. out of a scale of 1-10 id give this ball 7.5 or an 8. 

 

Left dot -  The first time i played this ball, i was unimpressed because i expected it to be the unicorn ball......after using it for a ful 18 holes, i have to say the ball is different that the 1st time i played it.  I know all the talk is to put it in between the AVX and the Prov1 but i have to be honest, i think that is a horrible slotting. TO ME, this ball belongs in between the V1x and left dash or possibly in between the V1 and v1x. This ball from a feel perspective feels more like its in between the v1x and left dash. It feel firmer than the v1x but feels closer to the v1x than the left dash. The balls trajectory is much lower than the left dash but really explodes off the driver. I have to be honest. The left dash is a beast off the driver and the left dot turned out to be better and longer.....i dont know what is in the ball but i hit 4 drives at 300 yards or slightly better. I NEVER hit 300 yards. I had one with the left dash a few weeks back but the left dot rewarded me with multiple drives at 295-305. When you flush this ball off the tee, its trajecctory and peak height is literally perfect. FOR ME, its the perfect flight.....this ball is the unicorn ball off the tee as far as feel, trajectory and distance. As i said earlier, i was swinging really good this weekend so that contributes, but even the guys i was playing with made comments. They had no idea i was testing out a new ball. I heard comments like "what the hell did you eat today?" and "Dude, thats over 300".  This is the best all around ball i have ever hit off the driver. Explosive is the term i will use.  even if i did not flush this in the middle of the face, it was very forgiving for me. Where the BXS would really spin "out of control" for me, the left dot seemed to fly 50% less off center.....on similar strikes i was aligned closer to the center of the fairway than the bxs....sometimes by 30 feet.  The iron play was a little different than the driver experience. This is where the ball comes back to reality a bit more. Its still long and still hits the trajectory window, but for me, the ball does not hold the greens as well as i had hoped. One example of this was a 6 iron shot from 178. I hit it really good and was right at the pin which was tucked in the back left corner. The shot looked beautiful off the club, flew in the window i really like. I saw the ball hit and from that distance it looked like a great result. I approached the green, saw the ball mark which was ~ 18 feet from the hole and the ball ended up rolling past the pin and off the back side of the green. I was only 10 feet from the hole and got up and down for par but the dstance from initial green contact to resting spot was almost 30 feet. That shocked me.

The very next hole was a par 3, ~150 yards. I hit an 8 iron and lifted it very high as the pin was tucked in front right corner.  It landed 15 feet from the hole and stopped because the angle of descent was very high. I feel you need to hit it higher on approach shots to limit the roll out. For me, i had multiple shots into the green with 6-8 irons that resulted in longer roll outs than other balls.  not that its bad, but i had to adjust my shots a little bit to account for this.  from 30 yards and in, the ball did not perform like a prov1...it performed more like the left dash. Its not bad, but in direct comparison to a prov1 or the BXS, the left dot is not as comfortable for me in getting up and down if needed.  If i were to play this ball full time, i would need to make some adjustments in the short game....the amount of distance i get off the tee, it may be worth it. 

Anyway, putting with the left dot was great. Its a nice firm feel, but not clicky feel off a GSS Mills putter.  you get what you put into it. I liked it.

In conclusion, I feel the left dot is a really good ball and for the last few weeks of fall golf, i have to decide if this is my ball moving forward.....the distance off the tee is almost intoxicating for me, like the left dash.....its a much better all around ball then the left dash but does have some issues with roll out for me...i would say the left dot is a nicer all around version of the left dash. To me, its nothing close to the avx and i feel the slotting near the AVX is misleading because to me the AVX fee is 100% different, the trajectories are much different and the left dot flies much further than AVX.  

 

For me, the top 2 balls of 2021 are the Chromesoft X and the Left dot....... 

the CSX is the better all around ball, especially sticking the greens with 7-pw, but its shorter off the tee by 10-15 yards when both are hit in similar ways. So its a question of length vs control.   

 

Can i adjust to the left dot's characteristics around the green or do i take less distance off the tee and use a better all around ball from 180 yards and in?    

Sorry for the long drawn out post. I think id be happy playing both balls with the regualr prov1 coming in 3rd.

CSX vs Left Dot......hmmmmmm.......

i guess ill have to play more golf to really lock it in      sorry honey, scientific testing is needed through the fall

[tsecor]

just a quick update.....played the Left Dot in my league championship on a tough links course.....finished 5th out of 25. 4 shots from a win. USed the Left dot all day....

 

the more i hit it, the more i like it.....its the closest thing as a game changer for me so if and when it becomes available, this will be my ball.

 

I still like the CSX 20 yards and in, but I can adjust with the left dot on bump and runs and high pitches.....

 

this ball is amazing and may be the best Titleist ball ive ever hit......i can see this becoming very popular and taking the place of the current prov1.....as the current prov1 turns into the new AVX.......the current AVX can go bye bye in this scenario because its a limited ball when you directly compare it to the left dot and regular prov1....

 

left dot could become a HUGE seller if it makes it to market....it explodes off the clubs....i love this ball

[ME27]

I absolutely love this ball. I've been playing the left dash since it became available but this ball has lower trajectory and much better feel without sacrificing much of the distance gained by left dash. Spin is drop and stop which I love because my ball is always right next to my pitch mark and with other balls I rip it back too far. My worry is that this ball doesn't come to market fully and I will be very disappointed because I am extremely pleased with the results so far. 

[cardigan]

2 hours ago, tsecor said:

just a quick update.....played the Left Dot in my league championship on a tough links course.....finished 5th out of 25. 4 shots from a win. USed the Left dot all day....

 

the more i hit it, the more i like it.....its the closest thing as a game changer for me so if and when it becomes available, this will be my ball.

 

I still like the CSX 20 yards and in, but I can adjust with the left dot on bump and runs and high pitches.....

 

this ball is amazing and may be the best Titleist ball ive ever hit......i can see this becoming very popular and taking the place of the current prov1.....as the current prov1 turns into the new AVX.......the current AVX can go bye bye in this scenario because its a limited ball when you directly compare it to the left dot and regular prov1....

 

left dot could become a HUGE seller if it makes it to market....it explodes off the clubs....i love this ball

Don't see why they'd get rid of the AVX as long as it's getting sales.  A softer, non-tour ball that they can charge a premium price for.  No need to completely abandon that market.

[tsecor]

On 9/21/2021 at 1:59 PM, cardigan said:

Don't see why they'd get rid of the AVX as long as it's getting sales.  A softer, non-tour ball that they can charge a premium price for.  No need to completely abandon that market.

i just think the lineup would be very muddy if the left dot comes to market. the AVX isnt a big seller and is more of a niche ball anyway....adding another "PROV" to the lineup would certainly increase sales for the overall prov1 brand......you would have V1, left Dot, V1X and Left Dash.......perfect balance all under the Prov1 name which has become synonmous with "golf balls"

 

"you playing pro v1?" 

 

"yea"

 

nobody ever says, "you playing AVX?" 

[The Pearl]

1 hour ago, tsecor said:

i just think the lineup would be very muddy if the left dot comes to market. the AVX isnt a big seller and is more of a niche ball anyway....adding another "PROV" to the lineup would certainly increase sales for the overall prov1 brand......you would have V1, left Dot, V1X and Left Dash.......perfect balance all under the Prov1 name which has become synonmous with "golf balls"

 

"you playing pro v1?" 

 

"yea"

 

nobody ever says, "you playing AVX?" 

 

I could see this happening.  Oddly enough, the 2021 ProV1 feels closer to the AVX than the Left Dot. Could they "soften" the feel of the Left Dot to slow between the AVX and the 2021 ProV1 without compromising the Left Dot vibe?

[cardigan]

1 hour ago, tsecor said:

i just think the lineup would be very muddy if the left dot comes to market. the AVX isnt a big seller and is more of a niche ball anyway....adding another "PROV" to the lineup would certainly increase sales for the overall prov1 brand......you would have V1, left Dot, V1X and Left Dash.......perfect balance all under the Prov1 name which has become synonmous with "golf balls"

 

"you playing pro v1?" 

 

"yea"

 

nobody ever says, "you playing AVX?" 

It just seems that there is a market out there for a "soft" premium ball and Titleist probably wants a piece of it.  No idea of the numbers or what the folks at Titleist think though.  Maybe they'd drop the AVX name and have something with a ProV1 name targeting that demographic.  I think the big boys all have something in that segment (same price as tour played balls) except for TM.

 

Titleist AVX

Bridgestone B RX(S)

Callaway Chrome Soft

Srixon Z-Star (haven't tried them in a while so they may be firmer than I remember)

[tsecor]

23 hours ago, cardigan said:

It just seems that there is a market out there for a "soft" premium ball and Titleist probably wants a piece of it.  No idea of the numbers or what the folks at Titleist think though.  Maybe they'd drop the AVX name and have something with a ProV1 name targeting that demographic.  I think the big boys all have something in that segment (same price as tour played balls) except for TM.

 

Titleist AVX

Bridgestone B RX(S)

Callaway Chrome Soft

Srixon Z-Star (haven't tried them in a while so they may be firmer than I remember)

The "soft" premium ball would be the prov1.....it already feels very soft so it naturally can fill that description

[Tupperwolf]

My dozen balls are still sitting untouched in the bottom of my locker at the club.  I'm scared to touch them in case I lose any, or worse, I fall in love and can't get any more, LOL!  I'm still trying to use up my TP5x Pix, if I switch now and abandon the Pix balls they'll just sit there sadly gathering dust, and maybe if I wait they'll actually come out with the Left Dot as a full release and I won't find myself in ball limbo...

[TLUBulldogGolf]

Missed out on these, I like the left dash but the slightly softer feel and lower flight of these intrigues me. The left dash seems somewhat hard to control the distance off the irons, or I just haven't quite calibrated to it yet. 

[tsecor]

On 9/23/2021 at 4:00 PM, Tupperwolf said:

My dozen balls are still sitting untouched in the bottom of my locker at the club.  I'm scared to touch them in case I lose any, or worse, I fall in love and can't get any more, LOL!  I'm still trying to use up my TP5x Pix, if I switch now and abandon the Pix balls they'll just sit there sadly gathering dust, and maybe if I wait they'll actually come out with the Left Dot as a full release and I won't find myself in ball limbo...

USE THE LEFT DOT!!!! jeez.....if you are afraid to lose them, trade me for them......ill give you a dzn TP5X and a DZN AVX for them

[Londo]

Played a couple rounds last week with the Left Dot, I have been experimenting with the Snell MTBX, Chromesoft, and Z Star XV before (I like all of them TBH). However, if I am playing in windy conditions, the Left Dot is my gamer for sure.

Trajectory is definitely lower but its a penetrating flight, courses I play are usually softer and it was refreshing to see some additional rollout with these. I did notice ~10 yds of additional distance on tee shots, I decided to really get after a short par 4 after a few holes and had some confidence. I hit it 285, twenty yards off the green, on a flat hole. My typical drives are ~260 so this was surprising in a very good way (and yes I made the birdie). 

Not a crazy amount of spin but drop and stop with wedges and good enough check on the irons. I am not one to ever suck a ball back, just not my game. The ball just felt great coming off the clubs.

Honestly this is the best ball I have ever drove (distance wise) other than the Left Dash but felt miles better in the short game and putting. 

I will have to do some more testing yet but this ball would make me consider spending $20 more a dozen to play them exclusively. I love finding deals but if I am routinely playing like I had with the left dot, $50/dz is a deal to me. For now with limited supply, I am picking my spots to play them!

[thaar]

I really like the left dot as well. I'm currently coming from an AVX, so this definitely makes up for its shortcomings. Longer off the tee, more spin on approach shots and around the green, and a better feel (for me). I really hope Titleist goes to production with this. That being said, if you like the ball, please submit your feedback to Titleist to provide justification for them to move forward with it. 

[thaar]

On 9/13/2021 at 8:09 AM, tsecor said:

This ball from a feel perspective feels more like its in between the v1x and left dash. It feel firmer than the v1x but feels closer to the v1x than the left dash.

 

This is a good assessment. I wasn't expecting it to be as firm as it was, but I also thought that was because I currently play an AVX. I traded a sleeve of the left dash with my buddy, and after playing 9 with them, I realized how firm it really is.

[The Pearl]

I am warming up to the left dot.  And for those that mention how firm it is, you are spot on.  I have only used the ball in spot duty, but on more than a few shots I have been really surprised at some of the outcomes.  For me, I would describe it as sneaky long.   It is my own fault for not doing a full evaluation so that is my goal on Sunday...to play my normal course with the Left Dot all the way for the 18 holes. 

 

Wish it came in yellow, but probably a real long shot and way down the road.  But not a deal breaker.

 

I would really like to settle on only one of the Titleist balls, but each line seems to have one little quirk for me.  The Left Dot might be the one I get married to...

[thaar]

One thing I forgot to mention is its durability. I absolutely drilled a tree off of the tee last week  and there wasn't even a scuff. I was shocked.

[Phil_I_am 84]

Played 3.5 rounds with this ball.  I am loving it.  Just as long as the Tour bx off the driver, love the feel around the green.  Irons have lots of spin but haven't noticed much distance lost.  Part of that is probably my swing is the best it's been all year after lots of work.  I am loving it though.  Wish I had bought 2 cases but have only lost 1 ball in the 3.5 rounds I've played.  Hope its released regularly.  

[monks66]

left dot in yellow......come on Titleist

[jol]

This ball sounds a lot like the balls that Titleist sent me to blind test and provide feedback. I usually play the AVX, the “blind” ball was longer off the tee, with fairway woods, good with the irons and was fine around the greens for me. I would definitely use it if it were available. Hoping I get a chance to try the left dot ProV1. 

Edited October 4, 2021 by jol

[monks66]

i wont if the left dot is a re-badged EXP-1??

[dwboston]

1 hour ago, monks66 said:

i wont if the left dot is a re-badged EXP-1??

 

It's not.  The EXP-01 became the Titleist Tour Speed ball.

[Charlie1961]

On 9/23/2021 at 4:00 PM, Tupperwolf said:

My dozen balls are still sitting untouched in the bottom of my locker at the club.  I'm scared to touch them in case I lose any, or worse, I fall in love and can't get any more, LOL!  I'm still trying to use up my TP5x Pix, if I switch now and abandon the Pix balls they'll just sit there sadly gathering dust, and maybe if I wait they'll actually come out with the Left Dot as a full release and I won't find myself in ball limbo...

send them to me to alleviate your quandary

[GoGoErky]

4 hours ago, monks66 said:

i wont if the left dot is a re-badged EXP-1??

Left dot is about 8 years old

[Phil_I_am 84]

Surprised there doesn't seem to be reviews online or YouTube testing like txg.  They reviewed the left dash from what I remember.  

[QuigleyDU]

I like this ball.. a lot.. I need to get my driver launch up to 12 degrees and it episode be bombs away..

 

 

Edited October 3, 2021 by QuigleyDU

[GC70]

🤞🏻I hope these come to retain 

[My2Dogs]

I got in on the deal and I hit one on a few holes a week ago when my swing was working well.  It is a beast off the tee for me and a little longer than the Left dash.  This years TP5X is a good overall ball but last years was def longer off the tee and the left dot beats the 2019 TP5X by a good 10yards.  
 

I really do hope they make this a retail product like they did the left dash.