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Curious how many of you put a line on your balls to assist with lining up your putts? I'm a high handicapper and just started taking golf seriously this year. I struggle with putting, which is mostly a speed control issue, but find that after I line up my ball and address the putt 8 out of 10 times I'm questioning my alignment. That's certainly not helping my confidence when putting. Thinking next round I'll ditch the alignment mark and see how it goes. Just curious on how you guys do with an alignment mark versus not.

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I started using an alignment line after digesting this video. It can be very helpful for judging the quality of your stroke and the accuracy of your alignment.

 

That said, some people need it more than others. If you're more of a technical thinker/player it is probably a great idea. If you do better in a read/react mode it might be distracting. 

 

At the very least, it's good to spend some of you practice time making sure you can roll the ball on your intended line. The alignment aid on the ball is helpful with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

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After much experimentation, I've settled on using the alignment line on my ball for 0-8 foot putts or so, and just using feel for anything outside of that. 

I was getting way too mechanical over long putts aligning a ball

 

I think this matches up roughly with the strategy employed by a lot of PGA tour professionals

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21 minutes ago, me05501 said:

I started using an alignment line after digesting this video. It can be very helpful for judging the quality of your stroke and the accuracy of your alignment.

 

That said, some people need it more than others. If you're more of a technical thinker/player it is probably a great idea. If you do better in a read/react mode it might be distracting. 

 

At the very least, it's good to spend some of you practice time making sure you can roll the ball on your intended line. The alignment aid on the ball is helpful with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank. I'll be sure to check out the video.

 

I do use the line when practicing at home to ensure I'm getting good end over end roll. It that respect, it's helped me develop a more solid and repeatable stroke. 

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17 minutes ago, rooski said:

After much experimentation, I've settled on using the alignment line on my ball for 0-8 foot putts or so, and just using feel for anything outside of that. 

I was getting way too mechanical over long putts aligning a ball

 

I think this matches up roughly with the strategy employed by a lot of PGA tour professionals

 

Good idea. I may just give this strategy a try.

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17 minutes ago, kmay__ said:

I started using the line this season and use it on every putt. It has been the single thing to save me more strokes than anything else I've ever tried. Takes about 5 seconds to set the ball down and line it up, and when I address the ball all I'm thinking about is pace. Has made an incredible difference in my putting all year. 

 

I'm sure most of it is in my head, and maybe I should try to match my approach more to yours by focusing on pace once I have the ball lined up, but once I address the ball more times than not I feel like my line is off. 

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45 minutes ago, rooski said:

After much experimentation, I've settled on using the alignment line on my ball for 0-8 foot putts or so, and just using feel for anything outside of that. 

I was getting way too mechanical over long putts aligning a ball

 

I think this matches up roughly with the strategy employed by a lot of PGA tour professionals

 

This is the routine I've fallen into as well. 

 

Speed is the most important consideration on longer putts. In that middle distance it's the combination of speed and line. For the shortest putts it seems to be the line more than anything. 

I usually eyeball the longer putts, use the alignment line on 3-15 footers, and look at the hole on the ones inside 3'. If I'm anxious about one of those short ones I'll go through my whole routine and line it up just to get my head out of it as much as possible. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, me05501 said:

I usually eyeball the longer putts, use the alignment line on 3-15 footers, and look at the hole on the ones inside 3'.

 

Yeah great way to do it. I've thought about it more and rather than putting a number like 3-15 or 0-10 on it, I think the way I really do it is use the alignment line for any putts that I feel are realistic to expect to make.

 

Generally that does fall within 3-15 feet, but if I have a 6 foot putt that breaks 3 feet, I'm not going to use the alignment line on the ball for example

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I do, in black sharpie marker.  After aligning the mark in line to my intended putting line I focus on putting through the line, like hammering a nail into a board (common swing thought).  The reason for this swing thought is to putt through the ball and not just hit the ball.  This promotes me to release the putter and make a smooth stroke.  I have another method to gauge speed that seems to work for me.

I also put a dot by the number in gold sharpie marker to the left of the alignment line (first dimple lower right of the number). 
 

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6 minutes ago, rooski said:

 

Yeah great way to do it. I've thought about it more and rather than putting a number like 3-15 or 0-10 on it, I think the way I really do it is use the alignment line for any putts that I feel are realistic to expect to make.

 

Generally that does fall within 3-15 feet, but if I have a 6 foot putt that breaks 3 feet, I'm not going to use the alignment line on the ball for example

 

Sounds like we're pretty close to the same approach.

 

On those big breakers, I'd recommend trying the alignment aid. It's really easy to read those property from behind the ball then get over putt and cheat the line toward the hole. I find that I tend to hit it the proper speed for the original line but on a less-breaking trajectory, with the ball missing on the low side of the hole. Using the alignment aid allows me to stay committed to my original read. 

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17 minutes ago, rooski said:

 

Yeah great way to do it. I've thought about it more and rather than putting a number like 3-15 or 0-10 on it, I think the way I really do it is use the alignment line for any putts that I feel are realistic to expect to make.

 

Generally that does fall within 3-15 feet, but if I have a 6 foot putt that breaks 3 feet, I'm not going to use the alignment line on the ball for example

 

8 minutes ago, me05501 said:

 

Sounds like we're pretty close to the same approach.

 

On those big breakers, I'd recommend trying the alignment aid. It's really easy to read those property from behind the ball then get over putt and cheat the line toward the hole. I find that I tend to hit it the proper speed for the original line but on a less-breaking trajectory, with the ball missing on the low side of the hole. Using the alignment aid allows me to stay committed to my original read. 

 

Big breaking putts really depend on the right speed.  That said there is still a line that the putt should start on.  I always align the line to this arbitrary line then in my putting routine my last (of two practice strokes) is what I use to gauge speed.  There is always a line in which I make my putt to and the line on the ball aligns with it.  I also pick out a spot an inch or two in front of the ball on the line and putt through that as well, at least as a putt stroke thought.

 

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1 hour ago, BigTerp1524 said:

 

I'm sure most of it is in my head, and maybe I should try to match my approach more to yours by focusing on pace once I have the ball lined up, but once I address the ball more times than not I feel like my line is off. 

I have the same feeling. However I've found that trusting my read is crucial. Once I'm over the ball I trust that I've lined up aimed where I want and I turn my focus to pace.

 

As for the line on the ball, I haven't done this for years. I pick a spot about six inches in front of the ball where I want to the putt to start, If I can hit that spot with decent pace I'm happy with the stroke.

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I haven't been using the line myself. I did try out some q star tour divide balls and I was using that feature for getting a line. I also found myself feeling a little off at address. I would take a step back, verify that it was on the line I wanted, then readdress the ball confident it was on the intended line.

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I use a long line on my ball, line it up and then set up behind it. My eyes kinda suck when looking at the hole from address so it messes things up I find. I bought a dozen of the Chrome Soft XLS with Triple Track and I kinda like it not gonna lie. The lines are drawn for me and I like how it's a bit wider so I can square things up better. 

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I use the logo or line on the ball to target the exact spot where the putter will make impact.
 

I find it less distracting than trying to match the line of the ball with your putter. I line it up and still see the ball roll line over line on good strokes

 

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On 8/19/2021 at 8:10 AM, RCGA said:

I'm struggling with trusting the line after I address the ball. 

 

I've had too many straight 5 footers that I've lined up, and when I've addressed the ball thought "gee, this doesn't feel right - ah hit it anyway" and missed. 

 

It's like the line adds more doubt than confidence. 

This is kind of where I'm at. Before this year, when I just played here and there maybe 2 times a year, I never lined my ball. Just read the putt, setup and putted. I feel like I putted better then than now. But I honestly didn't pay much attention to my game before this year, so who knows.

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On 8/19/2021 at 8:10 AM, RCGA said:

I'm struggling with trusting the line after I address the ball. 

 

I've had too many straight 5 footers that I've lined up, and when I've addressed the ball thought "gee, this doesn't feel right - ah hit it anyway" and missed. 

 

It's like the line adds more doubt than confidence. 

I’ve dealt with the same problem in the past. I was very bad on short putts for a few years partly bc I had my longtime putter stolen and mostly bc I was so focused on perfectly hitting my starting line. Lining up my ball caused doubt if my eye line over the ball was off at all. It’s even a problem for some pros so I really think the ball line is an overrated aide to rely on for amateurs. 
 

Zeroing in on impact over starting line is what’s best in my experience. If I make good impact and miss the putt I can take away satisfaction in hitting a solidly struck putt. I had a hard time taking positives away when I rolled it line over line on the wrong line, or changed my line over the ball and even mid stroke lol. I think once that directional doubt enters your head it can cause a yip that only gets worse over time. 
 

Good impact will make your speed more consistent and you won’t be as prone to subconsciously compensating when putter aim vs ball line doubt creeps into your head. 

I suggest locking in on the exact dimple/ball marking you need to hit the ball in order to make it go in the hole. 

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On 8/18/2021 at 10:37 AM, rooski said:

After much experimentation, I've settled on using the alignment line on my ball for 0-8 foot putts or so, and just using feel for anything outside of that. 

I was getting way too mechanical over long putts aligning a ball

 

I think this matches up roughly with the strategy employed by a lot of PGA tour professionals

 

Not sure if aligning the ball means using the line ON the ball but I never could get that line exactly right. I'd stand over the ball ready to putt and there's no way that line looked right to me. :classic_sad:

 

The Malaska video posted earlier is a good one. He speaks of finding your ball position (not necessarily right above the ball) by experimenting with your sight lines to the hole.

 

i.e. From behind the ball pick the spot to roll the ball over. Then set up to the ball and vary your distance to the ball until the spot LOOKS correct. THAT is where your ball position should be.

 

I've tried it but the "correct" spot never looks right to me. :classic_laugh:

 

 

On 8/18/2021 at 10:38 AM, kmay__ said:

I started using the line this season and use it on every putt. It has been the single thing to save me more strokes than anything else I've ever tried. Takes about 5 seconds to set the ball down and line it up, and when I address the ball all I'm thinking about is pace. Has made an incredible difference in my putting all year. 

 

There's no doubt that if one believe one is lined up correctly the ONLY thing one should then be thinking about is pace.

 

But pace is one of things things I hear SO little about. Can't recall any discussions or videos that truly discuss pace and how to decide how hard to strike the putt.

 

Do you think of a specific distance, in say, feet ? Or do you just kinda sorta "feel" and/or visualize the effort it takes to hole the putt ?

 

Many years ago a really good putter in my club was the best at leaving a tap in from distance. I asked him how he did it and he explained that distance was the LAST thought before he struck the putt. After all, he'd already lined the ball up and took his stance. The stroke is (hopefully) always the same - what else is there to think about ?

 

I've related my distance/pace story before. I've been using it with a large degree of success for about 25 years since my buddy taught it to me.

 

No need to repeat it again here. Here's a link to it if anybody's interested. Distance putting

 

 

On 8/18/2021 at 10:56 AM, BigTerp1524 said:

 

I'm sure most of it is in my head, and maybe I should try to match my approach more to yours by focusing on pace once I have the ball lined up, but once I address the ball more times than not I feel like my line is off. 

 

See above (pace), and again, that's what the video above discusses at length. 👍

 

 

On 8/18/2021 at 11:24 AM, rooski said:

 

Yeah great way to do it. I've thought about it more and rather than putting a number like 3-15 or 0-10 on it, I think the way I really do it is use the alignment line for any putts that I feel are realistic to expect to make.

 

Generally that does fall within 3-15 feet, but if I have a 6 foot putt that breaks 3 feet, I'm not going to use the alignment line on the ball for example

 

I get your logic (sort of) but the line really is just to get the ball started correctly. On any breaking putt that line is going to wobble but the ball still needs to start on line like any other putt, no ?

 

It's funny but just yesterday I was discussing putting with another guy in the group and I've come to the decision that just about 15 feet was the distance where a lot of putts going in became as much luck as anything else - at least on most muni/public or other lesser maintained greens.

 

Heck, even on Tour, where the greens are about as pure as they can get, we watch these incredible closeups of putts wiggling and wobbling their way to the hole. :classic_laugh:

 

Personally, while I still try the line occasionally, no matter how carefully I line the line up from behind, once I get over the ball it looks wrong. :classic_sad:

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3 hours ago, nsxguy said:

Personally, while I still try the line occasionally, no matter how carefully I line the line up from behind, once I get over the ball it looks wrong. :classic_sad:

 

After my last few rounds and listening to Jon Rahm talk about his putting I'm starting to lean towards giving up the line entirely. 

 

3 days ago or whenever I originally commented I was using it consistently and had been for months but as it goes with putting it's been getting my head a lot, can't even focus on the goal of getting the ball in the hole lately.

 

I don't think I'm too crazy cause a lot of pros go back and forth with the line but I think it may be time for me to take a break from it

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On 8/18/2021 at 8:00 AM, BigTerp1524 said:

Curious how many of you put a line on your balls to assist with lining up your putts? I'm a high handicapper and just started taking golf seriously this year. I struggle with putting, which is mostly a speed control issue, but find that after I line up my ball and address the putt 8 out of 10 times I'm questioning my alignment. That's certainly not helping my confidence when putting. Thinking next round I'll ditch the alignment mark and see how it goes. Just curious on how you guys do with an alignment mark versus not.

Use marked balls when I practice, but never when I play. I find the line distracting. It disrupts my concentration and makes me overthink putts.

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I put an alignment line on my ball but as much for identification purposes as anything else. I do use it always on the tee but only occasionally when I putt. The ball just does not seem to be matched up with the way I aligned it when I stand over it and I have found I putt better when I don't use it.

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On 8/21/2021 at 4:25 PM, phil75070 said:

I put an alignment line on my ball but as much for identification purposes as anything else. I do use it always on the tee but only occasionally when I putt. The ball just does not seem to be matched up with the way I aligned it when I stand over it and I have found I putt better when I don't use it.

This is exactly what I'm experiencing. I'll spend plenty of time lining up by ball, checking my read, etc., etc. while others putt or chip. As soon as I address my ball I feel like my line is off and it gets in my head. Going to try my next round without the line and see how it goes. Certainly can't hurt!!

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4 hours ago, BigTerp1524 said:

This is exactly what I'm experiencing. I'll spend plenty of time lining up by ball, checking my read, etc., etc. while others putt or chip. As soon as I address my ball I feel like my line is off and it gets in my head. Going to try my next round without the line and see how it goes. Certainly can't hurt!!

I think it was Mike Malaska who suggested moving closer or farther from the ball when addressing the putt until the line looks like it is aimed to where you lined it up from behind.

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1 hour ago, phil75070 said:

I think it was Mike Malaska who suggested moving closer or farther from the ball when addressing the putt until the line looks like it is aimed to where you lined it up from behind.

 

Per the video in post #2 above, he recommends stepping into the putt from behind the ball, placing the putter down so the lines match up and then building the putting stance around that. It works really well. I have far less doubt about my line when I do this religiously. 

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I've been using the alignment aids already included on the golf balls, lately. Currently I'm using Snell MTB-X and KSigs as my balls, both come with alignment aids on the covers, usually arrows on both sides of the model name on the cover of the ball. I personally prefer the Snell's, their arrows are a little more bold then the Ksigs, but both work.

 

I was really struggling with putting up until lately, but using these alignment aids have tremendously improved my putting. For whatever reason, my eyes aren't calibrated to line up a ball and putter to a target. 

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      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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