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There no practise bunkers around 

I finish the 1st hole and putt out then notice a bunker. I take a practise swing to feel the consistency of the sand and rake the bunker and then join the rest of my group on the 2nd tee. 
Will be get called out for this?

Is there any penalty in term of scoring ?

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4 minutes ago, antip said:

No penalty providing you are not swinging at a ball and do not unreasonably delay play.

 

Can you cite the rule for that? Not questioning your judgment just curious for the future

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1 hour ago, rooski said:

 

Can you cite the rule for that? Not questioning your judgment just curious for the future

Practice strokes from a bunker between holes would be a penalty under rule 5.5b. But 5.5a tells us that a practice swing made with no intent to strike a ball is not a practice stroke. So the action itself does not breach a rule. If the process of practice swinging from a bunker unreasonably delays the group (eg, if they are all sitting around waiting on the 2nd tee having hit off) then this risks being a 5.6a breach. So my previous response identified the things that would safeguard against penalty. 

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2 hours ago, jimbo123 said:

The OP was quite specific about testing the consistency of the sand so I wonder if it’s a “touching the sand” concern?  In which case 12.2b is worth looking at, it lists the prohibited actions regarding touching the sand, and a practice swing between holes is not one of them.  

Just go by what antip has said.  Rule 12 is entirely concerned with the rules that apply when your ball in play is in a bunker.   The OP does not have a ball in play nor is he making a stroke at a ball. 

 

 

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How about this scenario?   My ball is in green side bunker.    I go to another bunker on the other side of the green and test the sand by practice swing , rake the sand.  Then go back to my ball at that other bunker on the other side of the green and make a my stroke at the ball.  
Any penalty? 

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11 minutes ago, harolease said:

How about this scenario?   My ball is in green side bunker.    I go to another bunker on the other side of the green and test the sand by practice swing , rake the sand.  Then to to my ball in another bunker and make a my stroke at the ball.  
Any penalty? 

There is no penalty for the reasons Colin touches on above - the bunker restrictions in Rule 12 relate to when your ball in play is in the same bunker.

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8 hours ago, Colin L said:

Just go by what antip has said.  Rule 12 is entirely concerned with the rules that apply when your ball in play is in a bunker.   The OP does not have a ball in play nor is he making a stroke at a ball. 

 

 


No disagreement, but why limit the advice to what antip said?  If the OP’s playing partners object to this behaviour, I think it’s far more likely that they mistakenly believe he has breached rule 12 than that they mistakenly believe he has breached rule 5.  

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5 hours ago, jimbo123 said:


No disagreement, but why limit the advice to what antip said?  If the OP’s playing partners object to this behaviour, I think it’s far more likely that they mistakenly believe he has breached rule 12 than that they mistakenly believe he has breached rule 5.  

 

Does it matter what they believe ?

 

Unless it's a match where they need to decide quickly, I have to assume it's stroke play.

 

Doesn't matter if they object or not as it will eventually be settled by the committee after the round before the player signs his scorecard.

 

Not so ?

 

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13 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Does it matter what they believe ?

 

Unless it's a match where they need to decide quickly, I have to assume it's stroke play.

 

Doesn't matter if they object or not as it will eventually be settled by the committee after the round before the player signs his scorecard.

 

Not so ?

 

 

I believe that for an OP who is worried about getting a penalty for whacking around in a bunker, rule 5 and rule 12 are equally of interest in understanding why there is no penalty.  So I pointed to rule 12 to add to the discussion.  Honestly don’t care about any point-scoring follow ups.  

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8 minutes ago, jimbo123 said:

 

I believe that for an OP who is worried about getting a penalty for whacking around in a bunker, rule 5 and rule 12 are equally of interest in understanding why there is no penalty.  So I pointed to rule 12 to add to the discussion.  Honestly don’t care about any point-scoring follow ups.  

 

Fair enough. And it is a rules forum.

 

I was just looking at it from the player's pov. So long as he's comfortable with his actions, no need to care about what the other player's believe.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Fair enough. And it is a rules forum.

 

I was just looking at it from the player's pov. So long as he's comfortable with his actions, no need to care about what the other player's believe.

 

 


Totally.  
 

I’m speculating here, but given the OP asking about “being called out”, and also his follow up question about practice swings in a different bunker, I’m guessing what he was worried about was someone saying “hey you can’t touch the sand like that!”.   And being comfortable with your actions in that scenario requires knowing rule 12.  

 

If he’s well acquainted with all the rules about bunkers and was only worried about practising, he’s free to ignore me 🙂 

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Bunkers are rarely consistent from bunker to bunker, even in the same bunker you could have different conditions.  I'm not sure of the rule, but it probably wouldn't be worth any type of potential conversation to gather information that probably wouldn't apply to the rest of the course (unless it's a club or high end course where they tend to maintain some consistency in the bunkers).   Best way to feel the sand out as far as how much is there, how soft or firm it is ect is to dig your feet in before hitting the ball. 

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