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I see this in junior golf a lot, and just curious what's peoples experience has been.  

Your opponents tee shot hits the tree on the right.  Everyone searches for the ball for over 5 minutes but can't find the ball.  The opponent assumes the ball must've went in the water, takes penalty drop and moves on.  

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19 minutes ago, MikekiM said:

It should be a lost ball.   good luck convincing the player involved of this, especially if it's a junior with his parent caddie in tow.

 

 

I would think so, but I always find myself biting my tongue.  My son isn't the one to call things out either.  

This happens a lot, so just wanted to see what others have done.  

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We saw something similar to this at worlds while you are correct you can't assume on holes what looks like a dogleg unless you have a spotter like the pro's do (which I do recommend all parents go ahead even if you caddy on these type) so you can see the ball land for this reason. Now technically yes lost ball go back but I also think its quite acceptable to assume drop and move forward, but then again depends on the level of the event you are playing IMO

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1 hour ago, darter79 said:

We saw something similar to this at worlds while you are correct you can't assume on holes what looks like a dogleg unless you have a spotter like the pro's do (which I do recommend all parents go ahead even if you caddy on these type) so you can see the ball land for this reason. Now technically yes lost ball go back but I also think its quite acceptable to assume drop and move forward, but then again depends on the level of the event you are playing IMO

Yes, please!  If you are just watching as a parent.  Don't sit at the tee box go forecaddy for the group.

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6 hours ago, Abh159 said:

In order to take a penalty drop assuming it went in the water you have to be "virtually certain" that it went into the water. Since not a single person saw it go into the water, and I can think of a few other places it may have ended up (stuck in the tree for example) you'd have to treat it as a lost ball.

This.  If there is no other place for the ball to be except in the penalty area then you can take the drop.  

 

And it's only 3 minutes to look for a ball now.  

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