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So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Full Monte said:

So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

What 60 do you have? Grind?

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4 hours ago, The Full Monte said:

So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

I carry a low bounce 58 and a higher bounce 54… if I’m in hard stuff where i don’t want bounce, the extra loft is helpful…

 

If you want to carry two different wedges for two different soles, why not vary the lofts as well?

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One of the instructors at GolfWorks school did something similar.

 

He had two 56* SWs. One had 12 bounce and he used it as a SW. The other had 8 bounce and was shaft trimmed an inch shorter -  he used like a LW.

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15 hours ago, The Full Monte said:

So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

 

 

What's the sole like on your current 60? It sounds more like you need to tweak just that one club to fit your needs.

 

At 60 you have pretty much every sole option available. M/D/X grinds, S Grinds, even the K/Cobra Widelow. If those don't fit, the TM ATV grind and Cleveland soles probably would. 

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13 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

I carry a low bounce 58 and a higher bounce 54… if I’m in hard stuff where i don’t want bounce, the extra loft is helpful…

 

If you want to carry two different wedges for two different soles, why not vary the lofts as well?

 

Same plan here and it's worked well for me.

 

I've taken to using my low-bounce 58 from greenside bunkers most of the time, though I rarely encounter bunkers with deep, soft sand. I bought the mid-bounce 54 thinking that it would be handy for those, but mostly I've used it for full shots and pitching. 

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13 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

I carry a low bounce 58 and a higher bounce 54… if I’m in hard stuff where i don’t want bounce, the extra loft is helpful…

 

If you want to carry two different wedges for two different soles, why not vary the lofts as well?

 

I have the same setup and it's been working really well for me.

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If you have room for 2 60's, why not go 48/52/56/60?  Vary the soles of the 56 and 60 to your liking. For me I'd just find the sole that works in both situations or work on my technique.  

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On 8/30/2021 at 9:50 AM, Habitual Flipper said:

 

How many times in a round are you hitting a flop shot? 

More than I’d care to admit.  This was my first year back after two season off from a shoulder surgery and the yardage into greens has been inconsistent; lots of holes where I’ve ended up 5-10 yards short of green.  My bump and run has been broke this season.  The short flop has been significantly more consistent being close to the pin.

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On 8/30/2021 at 9:51 AM, DeCuchi said:

If you have room for 2 60's, why not go 48/52/56/60?  Vary the soles of the 56 and 60 to your liking. For me I'd just find the sole that works in both situations or work on my technique.  

I actually went and looked at my club pile the other day…discovered an old G30 Lob Wedge (58*) that I’m gonna throw back in the bag and see how that works for those thicker rough shots.

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On 8/29/2021 at 4:39 PM, Mudguard said:

Probably a waste of a club. Better having a 56* with more or less bounce than your 60*. 

This is the typical way to manage this. However clubs with the same loft will perform differently depending on how they are put together on full shots too ....for example a lot more weight in the sole will launch higher, giving it more dynamic loft. 

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On 8/30/2021 at 9:51 AM, DeCuchi said:

If you have room for 2 60's, why not go 48/52/56/60?  Vary the soles of the 56 and 60 to your liking. For me I'd just find the sole that works in both situations or work on my technique.  

 

That is my set up.  My 60 has very little bounce and use it really only for flops.  I am contemplating dropping it as I just don't use it often.  The 56 is my sand and pitching/chipping wedge for the most part.  It has more bounce but if you open it you negate the bounce to a certain extent and can still flop with it if need be.  I rarely find myself needing to flop from hay.  You run the risk of whiffing if the ball is sitting too high up in the stuff.  Just take a wedge with some bounce and chop it out softly.

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The main reason for bad wedge shots out of the deep rough is sliding the head under the ball. A different sole isn't going to fix that. It takes practice to figure out how to hit that shot. Ask Bryson.😗

 

I get best results by putting the ball further back in my stance, which steepens the swing path for a more descending strike. It also presents more club face to the ball, so you're less likely to slide under it. The effective loft is reduced, but that helps to compensate for the amount of grass that you hit before hitting the ball. 

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On 8/29/2021 at 4:35 PM, The Full Monte said:

So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

 

If you want a dedicated flop club...get a 64 degree. at least then you'll have different distances/lofts covered. Don't waste a spot with 2 clubs that go the same distance.

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I use two 58* wedges, one for bunkers and one for lob shots. I found in lockdown and not being able to rake bunkers, that I needed more help in bunkers. And I've stuck with it since. 

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I play two 60 degree wedges--a low bounce (4 degrees) Vokey T-Grind and a Callaway PM Grind (12 degrees). I also carry a 52 degree wedge, but mostly play that for full/half wedges to the green. I prefer chipping with a 60 degree, and the Vokey is my go-to wedge in short rough/collar while the PM Grind is for thick rough and the sand (and is great at both)...I just never liked chipping with a 56 degree, and find that in general the bounce/grind combos I like to chip with come in the 58-62 degree designs. I've been using this setup for three years now and have found it really works for me...

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On 8/29/2021 at 4:35 PM, The Full Monte said:

So I’ve played a higher variety of courses this year, and noticed a new trend.  My current setup is a 48, 54 and 60.

 

Ive noticed that my typical 60 degree flop shot on courses where there’s a significant increase in long rough….has a tendency to be really bad.  From short rough to fairway…it’s pretty money….but when it gets long….I’ve had way too many just awful shots.

 

so I’m toying with the idea of carrying (2) 60 degree wedges with different soles to account for the variety of grass lengths and what I play easily out of each

 

 

 

Frankly I'm not good enough to discern the difference bounce might make on 2 different clubs with the same loft, partial or full.

 

So I play my wedges, all with different  lofts of course, with "medium" type bounces.

 

 

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