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50 minutes ago, Villn said:

Stealth + = Low spin 'tour' driver with a weight track

 

Stealth Max - no sliding weights, more forgiveness, same Ole stuff.

 

Stealth HD - Draw bias version.

 

Stock shafts are sick.

 

Kai'li and a custom red/black Ventus 'red' shaft.  

 

It was a lot of information at once and I don't remember it all.

Thanks for the info!

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10 hours ago, TheMoneyShot said:

I was just in my local store.  Evidently TM is doing some sort of a colab with a popular bag designer on a super cool stand bag.  It is going to be cool but pricey.  That’s all the info I was able to pull from them though. 

Not a collab based on what I've heard, rather TM is acquiring Vessel.

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13 hours ago, Villn said:

Stealth + = Low spin 'tour' driver with a weight track

 

Stealth Max - no sliding weights, more forgiveness, same Ole stuff.

 

Stealth HD - Draw bias version.

 

Stock shafts are sick.

 

Kai'li and a custom red/black Ventus 'red' shaft.  Along with Hzrdus RDX Red.

 

Carbon face, red and black color scheme.  Gonna be a new radical look.

 

It was a lot of information at once and I don't remember it all.

Real deal shafts? I sincerely doubt it for the others save the RDX 

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Callaway Paradym TD “S” 420cc 8.5. @ 45.5”

Driver Shafts: Project X Evenflow Riptide MX 60TX & MCA Kai’Li White 70X

Mizuno ST Max 230 12.0 Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 6.5 @ 45.25”
ON ORDER: Mizuno ST Max 230 15.0 Mitsubishi Rayon Kai’Li Blue 70X

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ON ORDER: Mizuno Pro 243 5-GW Nippon Modus Pro 120X

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On 11/14/2021 at 1:04 AM, Villn said:

Stealth + = Low spin 'tour' driver with a weight track $600

 

Stealth Max - no sliding weights, more forgiveness, same Ole stuff. $575

 

Stealth HD - Draw bias version. $575

 

Stock shafts are sick.

 

Kai'li and a custom red/black Ventus 'red' shaft.  Along with Hzrdus RDX Red.

 

Carbon face, red and black color scheme.  Gonna be a new radical look.

 

It was a lot of information at once and I don't remember it all.

If those prices are right it’ll be the same number in pounds. £600 for a driver? My g410 irons only cost me £600 but I got 8 clubs for that. It’s getting daft now, but it’s what people are willing to pay.

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Wow what's that wild looking driver with the red face? Oh that's the Stealth........ 🤔

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TM SIM Max 9*  Tensei blue AV 65-S

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23 hours ago, Lemonde said:

Real deal shafts? I sincerely doubt it for the others save the RDX 

 

You never know. I remember people (myself included) purposely buying used TP clubs because the shafts were real deal and the gray/red TM paint scheme didn't bother me. 

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Driver: SIM Max 10.5 Blue Smoke RDX 6.5
Apex UW 19* Black Smoke RDX 6.5
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On 11/14/2021 at 9:32 AM, Lemonde said:

Real deal shafts? I sincerely doubt it for the others save the RDX 

 

When is the last time TM had 'real deal' shafts? lol They couldnt even just include the cheap tensei AV raw like everyone else, they had to go get a made for model.

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51 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

When is the last time TM had 'real deal' shafts? lol They couldnt even just include the cheap tensei AV raw like everyone else, they had to go get a made for model.


AFAIK the last time there were actually "premium" aftermarket shafts available in any stock form was the TP Taylormade graphic shafts @DON SVO mentioned above. 

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Taylormade Stealth+ 16.5* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 18* Graphite Design AD-IZ 95X
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1 minute ago, Valtiel said:


AFAIK the last time there were actually "premium" aftermarket shafts available in any stock form was the TP Taylormade graphic shafts @DON SVO mentioned above. 

 

Correct.

 

Theres only a few OEMs that dont use proprietary shafts with any changes to them. Mizuno is a big one, Bridgestone Japan, Titleist IIRC is all 'real' shafts.

 

Callaway is doing this new 'make an entire line of cheaper shafts for us and also add it to your own website to make it look real' thing, and TM is still getting separate shafts marked/made for them without the same materials.

 

I will say that TM had the RDX Blue without the ion finish or whatever it is that was the exact same as the real RDX Blue. So that counts for something.

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6 minutes ago, Valtiel said:


AFAIK the last time there were actually "premium" aftermarket shafts available in any stock form was the TP Taylormade graphic shafts @DON SVO mentioned above. 

That sounds right.  And while it was stock in the TP line, you were still paying a premium for them.  But, at least not full up charge from what I remember.  But, all OEMs are this way.  When I buy a new driver, there is next to zero chance I won't replace the stock shaft with whatever my current preference is. 

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Ping G430 Max 15* w/OG Ventus Blue 7X
Titleist TSR2 7w w/Ventus Red TR 8X
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37 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

So the real deal non-velocore shaft I got in the backup OG sim I just bought is worthless? 

Reminds me of the member that posted how excited he was that he was able to get a SIM w/the super hot Ventus blue for such an unbelievable special promo. price. Someone responded “is it the real deal VeloCore version?”…  No response. 

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8 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Reminds me of the member that posted how excited he was that he was able to get a SIM w/the super hot Ventus blue for such an unbelievable special promo. price. Someone responded “is it the real deal VeloCore version?”…  No response. 

That's funny but outlines what we all hate with these made for shafts. Just make them obviously not real deal with a completely different color scheme.

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17 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

That's funny but outlines what we all hate with these made for shafts. Just make them obviously not real deal with a completely different color scheme.

Exactly.  Do what Ping does - just brand them whatever OEM and brand them accordingly.  Leave the aftermarket to the aftermarket. 

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22 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

That's funny but outlines what we all hate with these made for shafts. Just make them obviously not real deal with a completely different color scheme.

Yeah, but we know why they do it and it works $$$. Comes down to caveat emptor. If anyone thinks an OEM is giving them a $350+ shaft at no up charge…  🤷🏼‍♂️

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19 minutes ago, s515_15 said:

I still have a couple of Oban white TP shafts. They are awesome.

I have a whole bunch of motore speeder shafts with tp graphics (i believe the jetspeed colorscheme) they can be had for dirt cheap. 
 

As for the made for discussion, the made fors or stock options are much much better than 10  years ago, i could easily be fine with some of them.

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7 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

Correct.

 

Theres only a few OEMs that dont use proprietary shafts with any changes to them. Mizuno is a big one, Bridgestone Japan, Titleist IIRC is all 'real' shafts.


As someone that bought a Mizuno ST190 with a stock Atmos Black Tour Spec, I should have included that as an exception, heh. 

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Taylormade Stealth+ 16.5* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 18* Graphite Design AD-IZ 95X
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On 11/13/2021 at 7:04 PM, Villn said:

Stealth + = Low spin 'tour' driver with a weight track $600

 

Stealth Max - no sliding weights, more forgiveness, same Ole stuff. $575

 

Stealth HD - Draw bias version. $575

 

Stock shafts are sick.

 

Kai'li and a custom red/black Ventus 'red' shaft.  Along with Hzrdus RDX Red.

 

Carbon face, red and black color scheme.  Gonna be a new radical look.

 

It was a lot of information at once and I don't remember it all.

When? I need it. ASAP. 

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