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Foam filled irons vs traditional forged, is there any real advantage?


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10 hours ago, BIG STU said:

One thing I brought up before--- Wonder how well the foam or polymer will hold up after repeated hits and age? You know I have clubs 50 years old or older ( blades) and they hold up and hit well. Wonder if any of these foam filled beauties will be playable in say in 50 years or so?

 

Interesting question but impossible to even guess w/o knowing more about the exact materials used.  But the fact that it's completely sealed - no exposure to air or uv - is a positive in that regard.  On the other hand, no club manufacturer is going to really care much about whether they are still usable after 50 years.  Not that there will be very many players who do either.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Stuart_G said:

 

Interesting question but impossible to even guess w/o knowing more about the exact materials used.  But the fact that it's completely sealed - no exposure to air or uv - is a positive in that regard.  On the other hand, no club manufacturer is going to really care much about whether they are still usable after 50 years.  Not that there will be very many players who do either.

 

 

I will agree that there are not many players that will care even 5 years down the road. On those TMs I have you can see the "Inserts" from the sole end as you can with the Wilson irons. Really it made me curious about the degradement of the materials over time. But hey food for thought and thanks for your response

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5 hours ago, bogeypro said:

Couldn't it also mean the difference between the center of the green and flying it?  

 

It could. Elle Macpherson could also ring me up for a coffee. Neither likely IMHO.

 

In my experience gaming the 790s I have never seen a ball just fly the target from a normal condition. I find middle enough to know my distance within a few yards that a 10-15y 'hot one' just has not happened on course.  3-5 yard variances happen with all clubs at our levels but the hot one narrative is strong here at club WRX. 

 

On the range I have seen shots fly farther but the balls on the range are hardly consistent WRT spin and similar hot shots happen with my CBs. 

 

Just my experiences. Others have had less then good ones and gone away from these types of clubs. YMMV. 🙂 

 

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On 9/7/2021 at 11:02 PM, Valtiel said:


The foam part ala PXG/Taylormade/whatever is not really the thing to focus on, it's just something they add ostensibly for sound and feel purposes while trying to market it as something more (SpeedFoam Air, lol). The real question is about hollow construction as that is the real tech going on. As @NoCalHack said, it allows for thin, unsupported faces which = higher COR and higher potential ball speed, both on solid hits and more critically, mishits.

That. The main reason for hollow irons is the weight distribution to the rear of the head. The club face isn't necessarily thinner than with perimeter weighting. However, more material moved to the back of the head can result in less material around the perimeter, increasing the unsupported area of the face, which can give higher COR. From that standpoint a larger unsupported area would give more rebound without actually being thinner. As for the foam, other than altering the sound of the hit it may or may not be beneficial. It does give the marketing department something else to talk about.

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Foam is for sound and feel.  I don't buy the "speed" or structural benefits in the marketing material.  The hollow irons, foam or not, do provide for some added ball speed.  Great design in my opinion for those that it can benefit which is many.  I know a few accomplished amateurs that play hollow irons; Apex Pro 21, 770, 790 and TMB's. They don't seem to have distance control issues and they have made it though qualifying in events such as US Am, Mid Am and Sr Am.

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I did a little experiment and got the 0211dc’s, are they a game improvement iron, yes, but that’s what the experiment was for. I get a lot of distance out of them and spin them more than any other iron I’ve ever played before, they either stop on a dime and or spin a few feet back. I love the feel of them. I had never played or even thought about pxg in the past. When I seen the deal on them I said why not. No I was not paid nor affiliated to say all this, just a little assessment of whatever these cast dual core are they foam filled? irons.

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