Ryder Cup 2020/21 (***NO COVID/POLITICS***)

[avrag]

15 hours ago, elwhippy said:

No chance Padraig not picking Lowry. His life wouldn't have been worth living in Ireland. Rose is too inconsistent. This will be Poulter's swansong. Really pleased Weisberger got into the nine automatics. Very solid player. 

As an Austrian myself, I am happy that we have somebody on the team for the first time, but I have my doubts. The Omega Masters and the BMW PGA showed that not only his putting can let him down under pressure (which he usually compenasates by outwordly ball-striking), but he can also start to throw in the odd block and pull, when the going gets tough. Naturally, I hope he does well, but I am not convinced.
And it is WIESberger, just like it is SpIEth and not Speith.

[MattyO1984]

1 minute ago, avrag said:

As an Austrian myself, I am happy that we have somebody on the team for the first time, but I have my doubts. The Omega Masters and the BMW PGA showed that not only his putting can let him down under pressure (which he usually compenasates by outwordly ball-striking), but he can also start to throw in the odd block and pull, when the going gets tough. Naturally, I hope he does well, but I am not convinced.
And it is WIESberger, just like it is SpIEth and not Speith.

 

Never seems to have been the most convincing putter but maybe making the team on merit will give him a little confidence heading into the week. Interesting that when he does get on a run of form, he seems to keep on it for a while 🤞🏼 

[JaNelson38]

9 minutes ago, avrag said:

As an Austrian myself, I am happy that we have somebody on the team for the first time, but I have my doubts. The Omega Masters and the BMW PGA showed that not only his putting can let him down under pressure (which he usually compenasates by outwordly ball-striking), but he can also start to throw in the odd block and pull, when the going gets tough. Naturally, I hope he does well, but I am not convinced.
And it is WIESberger, just like it is SpIEth and not Speith.

 

Always really like Wiesberger as a player.  He's got a ton of game.

 

With his ball striking he'll be fabulous in the two 4-ball sessions.

[iBanesto]

8 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

 

Never seems to have been the most convincing putter but maybe making the team on merit will give him a little confidence heading into the week. Interesting that when he does get on a run of form, he seems to keep on it for a while 🤞🏼 

 

Wiesberger's recent form has been average at best. That collapse at the European Masters on the 18th was unfortunate.

 

The problem I have with Wiesberger in this team is that his performance in America is very poor for someone who is a regular in the world top 50.

 

But he qualified so I cannot deny him his place. Not that I could anyway 😂

Edited September 13, 2021 by iBanesto

[CasualLie]

JR can still stripe it and can make putts, so I don't get passing him up for Poulter.  You can go many directions in arguing for/against Lowry and in the end it is a better pick than (again) Poulter.  What can you argue on behalf of IP?  Those rare moments when he was having a decent tournament, he faded big time.

 

Not a lot of good options for team Euro.  Given how bad the U.S. is at fourball, it might look a little close Days 1 and 2...maybe, but Euro gets a beat down on Sunday singles.

[ShowMe]

8 hours ago, iBanesto said:

The European form guide.

 

 

 

Welcome to my world...

[Golferpaul]

I love the drama.  The Ryder Cup is my favorite sporting event of the year.  I suspect that some of the picks were based on how well a player fits with the team.  It is a team event and some players just don't fit a team. 

 

Tiger was that way.  The best player in the world for 20 years had one of the worst (39.2% win rate and his team lost seven of the eight years he played) Ryder Cup records.   He just isn't a team player.  Contrast that to Poulter and Garcia.  They both play several levels above their norm when it comes to team play.  I would give you ten to one odds that Tiger could beat Poulter in a four day event during his prime.  But that didn't carry over to the Ryder Cup.

[Duct Tape]

Is anyone else confused which of the 3+ Ryder Cup threads we should be to focusing on?

 

I choose this one since Matty started it and first posted the Euro team picks ( before I could even find them on Google). 🙂 

[imakaveli]

On 9/13/2021 at 9:56 PM, Duct Tape said:

Is anyone else confused which of the 3+ Ryder Cup threads we should be to focusing on?

 

I choose this one since Matty started it and first posted the Euro team picks ( before I could even find them on Google). 🙂 

We have one thread for the americans thinking they will lose, another one for americans thinking it will be a disaster, and then this one full of europeans telling americans to relax since Europe has no chance of winning 🤣🤣

Edited September 24, 2021 by imakaveli

[stinger_gc]

11 hours ago, MattyO1984 said:

 

Completely agree - as you say, there are going to be a few players on that European team sheet that aren’t looking great going into the event. Poulter being a pick is a concern - three top 10’s all season is not pick material for me. Sergio is barely any better. I completely see that they have great pedigree in the Ryder Cup but so does Bernhard Langer and I don’t see him getting a pick.  Add in Fitzpatrick and Hatton and I just don’t see how it is possibly going to end well for Europe.  

Euro's are gonna get spanked this time around. 

[Jay28]

I think it is a big mistake not picking Rose.

The Ryder Cup is all about mentality - the talent between the golfers is wafer thin.

Nothing against Lowry, but I just don't see him as a player who will do well at the Ryder Cup.

 

I would not be betting on Europe this time around unfortunately, but you never know.  If Brooks plays maybe he can destroy the dressing room and give us a chance.

[MattyO1984]

15 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Euro's are gonna get spanked this time around. 

Speaking as a European, I am in complete agreement with you!!

[Hawkeye77]

3 hours ago, CasualLie said:

JR can still stripe it and can make putts, so I don't get passing him up for Poulter.  You can go many directions in arguing for/against Lowry and in the end it is a better pick than (again) Poulter.  What can you argue on behalf of IP?  Those rare moments when he was having a decent tournament, he faded big time.

 

Not a lot of good options for team Euro.  Given how bad the U.S. is at fourball, it might look a little close Days 1 and 2...maybe, but Euro gets a beat down on Sunday singles.

I would have thought so and did, until I listened to the Euro folks really praising the pick and talking about how they feel Poulter has had a solid year -- they seem to be in the know so decided to look some stuff up.  Nobody really seemed all that surprised about Rose, kind of out there, but not as far out, with Stenson in the category of just didn't perform and not exciting this time around.  Would have loved to see those two back together, but not to be.

 

Looking at stats:  

 

Poulter is 3rd for the season on the PGA Tour in strokes gained putting.  Rose is 36th.  Strokes around the green Poulter is 8th, Rose is 150.  Overall rank in SG Poulter is 37, Rose is 99.  Rose beats him in some categories, but man, 3rd in SG putting?  Pretty darn good.

 

Performance:  

 

Since May head to head, Rose has the PGA, they tied at one event, Poulter dusted Rose at the Schwab and U.S. Open, Poulter beat Rose at the St. Jude pretty handily and Poulter had the T4 at the Scottish Open (probably a big deal for the Euros) and Rose didn't compete.

 

Hands down it turns out, Poulter has the edge since the PGA Championship on performance.

 

Still think Rose's back is an issue for him and contributed to his less than stellar year and maybe to not getting picked because of performance and maybe doubt. 

[Hawkeye77]

LOL, am I the only person suggesting the Euros will retain the Cup?

 

 

[MattyO1984]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye77 said:

LOL, am I the only person suggesting the Euros will retain the Cup?

We’re cup half empty over here. I blame Darren Clarke for drinking what is missing. He thought it was Guiness. We fear Lowry may make the same mistake 😂

[bscinstnct]

37 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

LOL, am I the only person suggesting the Euros will retain the Cup?

 

 

 

No. I think it’s possible the Euros win via the first shutout in Ryder Cup history. 
 

🤣
 

Be like, 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by bscinstnct

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, imakaveli said:

We have one thread for the americans thinking they will loose, another one for americans thinking it will be a disaster, and then this one full of europeans telling americans to relax since Europe has no chance of winning 🤣🤣

Lol. Yep. It’s yours to lose I guess.  

[Duct Tape]

30 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

No. I think it’s possible the Euros win via the first shutout in Ryder Cup history. 
 

🤣
 

Be like, 

 

 

As a Sooner fan I love it that you posted this pic!

[MattyO1984]

25 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Lol. Yep. It’s yours to lose I guess.  

We’ve lost it already. It’s OK though, it means we can all get an early night on the Sunday 😂 

[stinger_gc]

1 hour ago, MattyO1984 said:

Speaking as a European, I am in complete agreement with you!!

You guys are classy but on home turf USA will win by at least 3 points

[stinger_gc]

2 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

We’ve lost it already. It’s OK though, it means we can all get an early night on the Sunday 😂 

It'll be over by Saturday afternoon

[Duct Tape]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye77 said:

LOL, am I the only person suggesting the Euros will retain the Cup?

 

 

Nope.  I’ve been saying it even before the final picks.  And now that the Evil Duo are confirmed, it’s even more likely. I may throw my TV out the window before I have to watch Poulter or Garcia dancing on Wisconsin greens. Just about the only acceptable result, to ease the pain of previous years, would be for Poulter to go 0-5 and miss the putt on Sunday to give us the cup. 

[MattyO1984]

1 minute ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

It'll be over by Saturday afternoon

That’s cool with me, we can drink our beer and drown our sorrows Saturday and still be OK for work Monday. That’s a win for me!

[MattyO1984]

If it‘s of any interest, Ralph Lauren will have the US looking like this for the competition days:-

 

 

[stinger_gc]

8 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

If it‘s of any interest, Ralph Lauren will have the US looking like this for the competition days:-

 

 

Now I know why Stricker didn't pick Reed. No way he could fit in those tiny clothes!

[MattyO1984]

1 minute ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Now I know why Stricker didn't pick Reed. No way he could fit in those tiny clothes!

That is actually bringing back memories of him being at Gleneagles and walking around with trousers that looked like Tiger rejects from 1999. Enough material bunched at the bottom to make at least another pair.

[bscinstnct]

26 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

It'll be over by Saturday afternoon

 

Yes, then Santa Clause will land on the 18th green and sing Born In the USA.

 

🤣

 

Why you getting your hopes up? Just figure we get killed and don’t get invested. Then, if it looks like we gonna win you can get all flag waving and start chanting,

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by bscinstnct

[Soloman1]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

Lol. Yep. It’s yours to lose I guess.  

 

Don't you mean yours to loose?

[getitdaily]

46 minutes ago, MattyO1984 said:

If it‘s of any interest, Ralph Lauren will have the US looking like this for the competition days:-

 

 

Justin Thomas gonna be wearing something different? 

[Hawkeye77]

16 minutes ago, Soloman1 said:

 

Don't you mean yours to loose?

I was so close to posting that, haha, but the post effected me so much the thought alluded me!