Brooks Koepka on Tiger, “I’m going to catch him on majors”

[Nard_S]

I'm having a hard time figuring out which athlete gets more hate for winning than BK. By a mile, he's the best golfer in majors over last 5 years.  It's not even close. Career below but last 5 years untouchable. Head and shoulders above everyone. Only guy Tiger worried about. What's that saying? 

 

Tournament	Wins	2nd	3rd	Top-5	Top-10	Top-25	Events	Cuts made
Masters Tournament	0	1	0	1	2	4	6	5
PGA Championship	2	1	0	5	5	7	9	9
U.S. Open	2	1	0	5	5	7	8	7
The Open Championship	0	0	0	1	4	4	7	6
Totals	4	3	0	12	16	22	30	27

[Christosterone]

4 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

I'm having a hard time figuring out which athlete gets more hate for winning than BK. By a mile, he's the best golfer in majors over last 5 years.  It's not even close. Career below but last 5 years untouchable. Head and shoulders above everyone. Only guy Tiger worried about. What's that saying? 

 

Tournament	Wins	2nd	3rd	Top-5	Top-10	Top-25	Events	Cuts made
Masters Tournament	0	1	0	1	2	4	6	5
PGA Championship	2	1	0	5	5	7	9	9
U.S. Open	2	1	0	5	5	7	8	7
The Open Championship	0	0	0	1	4	4	7	6
Totals	4	3	0	12	16	22	30	27

he is very very good…

 

but he’s comparing himself to these two:

look at Jack’s major finsishes…he was top ten In every major except 5 between 70-81…all but FIVE….that’s insane

Likewise tiger in the 2000s

 

brooks is not on the same planet and, as I said, it’s borderline offensive to my golfing sensibilities that he would be compared in any way to jack or tiger..

again, brooks has had a very, very good stretch of 4 years….but to compare him to them is absurd 

 

-chris 

[ShowMe]

54 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

Both were often played while cruising in my 1978 Mercury Cougar, a.k.a. the passion wagon. 

 

 

My first car was a ten year old 1969 Mercury Marquis Station Wagon (the family wagon handed down to me).  V-8, 429ci, It was the Party-Mobile.  Load it up with my buddies, drive around, listen to music, and drink beer.  None of which I advocate anybody do these days, of course.  Plenty of room to stretch out in the back, too, when it was time for "passion" with the GF.  lol

 

Those were the days.  Good times.

[Christosterone]

Just now, ShowMe said:

My first car was a ten year old 1969 Mercury Marquis Station Wagon (the family wagon handed down to me).  V-8, 429ci, It was the Party-Mobile.  Load it up with my buddies, drive around, listen to music, and drink beer.  None of which I advocate anybody do these days, of course.  Plenty of room to stretch out in the back, too, when it was time for "passion" with the GF.  lol

 

Those were the days.  Good times.

my dad had a blue 78 marquis 4door sedan….it had shudders over the lights with Mercury logos…it was glorious

it was the deep blue like this one

 

 

[ShowMe]

14 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

I'm having a hard time figuring out which athlete gets more hate for winning than BK. By a mile, he's the best golfer in majors over last 5 years.  It's not even close. Career below but last 5 years untouchable. Head and shoulders above everyone. Only guy Tiger worried about. What's that saying? 

 

Tournament	Wins	2nd	3rd	Top-5	Top-10	Top-25	Events	Cuts made
Masters Tournament	0	1	0	1	2	4	6	5
PGA Championship	2	1	0	5	5	7	9	9
U.S. Open	2	1	0	5	5	7	8	7
The Open Championship	0	0	0	1	4	4	7	6
Totals	4	3	0	12	16	22	30	27

 

He's a d!ck.  That's why nobody likes him.  Winning or losing has nothing to do with it.

[ShowMe]

1 minute ago, Christosterone said:

my dad had a blue 78 marquis 4door sedan….it had shudders over the lights with Mercury logos…it was glorious

it was the deep blue like this one

 

 

 

NICE!!!  That brings back some great memories.

[golfortennis]

So, reading about halfway through this thread, we have

 

• a group defending the honor of Woods at all costs.
• Koepka being called foolish thinking he could maybe catch Woods.
• Koepka being praised for not wanting to finish second.

This is some grade-A WRX stuff.

 

Could he catch Woods?  Maybe.  Will he?  I wouldn't wager a significant sum, but it seems that some are threatened in some way by the mere notion Woods' total could be surpassed.  

 

For those who can recall old school basketball, it was once said Michael Jordan had a big ego.  Quinn Buckner replied, "you can't even play in this league without a big ego."  When is the last time you played a great round thinking you suck?  All professional athletes believe they can do it.  Some are better at playing the modesty game, but some truth serum would reveal a much different person. 

[Ferguson]

15 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

My first car was a ten year old 1969 Mercury Marquis Station Wagon (the family wagon handed down to me).  V-8, 429ci, It was the Party-Mobile.  Load it up with my buddies, drive around, listen to music, and drink beer.  None of which I advocate anybody do these days, of course.  Plenty of room to stretch out in the back, too, when it was time for "passion" with the GF.  lol

 

Those were the days.  Good times.

 

429?   I'm guessing around 350 ponies?

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Christosterone said:

my dad had a blue 78 marquis 4door sedan….it had shudders over the lights with Mercury logos…it was glorious

it was the deep blue like this one

 

 

 

Those cars had a "GPM" rating.   Gallons Per Mile.   

 

 

Like driving around in your living room. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nard_S]

14 minutes ago, Christosterone said:

again, brooks has had a very, very good stretch of 4 years….but to compare him to them is absurd 

I'm not but he's way better than anyone else at the moment. He's probably going to beat out any active player right now.  He shows up for the big ones. He was hurt this year he still went T2, T4 & T6. To get more than 5 in the modern era is going to be hyper difficult. Winning 4 in two years with 8 top 10's surrounding them crazy good.

[ShowMe]

5 minutes ago, golfortennis said:

So, reading about halfway through this thread, we have

 

• a group defending the honor of Woods at all costs.
• Koepka being called foolish thinking he could maybe catch Woods.
• Koepka being praised for not wanting to finish second.

This is some grade-A WRX stuff.

 

Could he catch Woods?  Maybe.  Will he?  I wouldn't wager a significant sum, but it seems that some are threatened in some way by the mere notion Woods' total could be surpassed.  

 

For those who can recall old school basketball, it was once said Michael Jordan had a big ego.  Quinn Buckner replied, "you can't even play in this league without a big ego."  When is the last time you played a great round thinking you suck?  All professional athletes believe they can do it.  Some are better at playing the modesty game, but some truth serum would reveal a much different person. 

 

First, Michael Jordan is not old school basketball.  You have to go back further in time to get to the old school guys.

 

Regarding BK and Tiger, I don't think that any reasonable person believes the BK will come close to threatening Tiger's record, just like no reasonable person thinks anymore that Tiger will break Jack's record, given his age and health status.

 

I think most of the negative comments are directed towards Koepka's ignorant, narcissistic, and immature comments about most things in general, not his golf game.

[physasst]

4 minutes ago, golfortennis said:

So, reading about halfway through this thread, we have

 

• a group defending the honor of Woods at all costs.
• Koepka being called foolish thinking he could maybe catch Woods.
• Koepka being praised for not wanting to finish second.

This is some grade-A WRX stuff.

 

Could he catch Woods?  Maybe.  Will he?  I wouldn't wager a significant sum, but it seems that some are threatened in some way by the mere notion Woods' total could be surpassed.  

 

For those who can recall old school basketball, it was once said Michael Jordan had a big ego.  Quinn Buckner replied, "you can't even play in this league without a big ego."  When is the last time you played a great round thinking you suck?  All professional athletes believe they can do it.  Some are better at playing the modesty game, but some truth serum would reveal a much different person. 

 

This....FFS, If I was on the PGA tour, I'd have the same mentality. If you aren't thinking that you could win every single major and you don't want to dominate your competition, why the heck are you even playing? 

 

Jordan didn't want to just beat you. He wanted to humiliate you. He wanted in his own words "to bury you at center court".  He was also selfish. After one of their playoff wins, when he had lit up the score board, early in his career, one of the coaches said "Michael, nice job, but remember, there is no "I" in team".....Jordan turned around and said "Yeah, but there is in WIN, isn't there!" 

 

Tiger had that mentality. I don't want to just beat you, I want to humiliate to you. Jack, heck wasn't Jack the first one to say what Brooks said about most of the guys on tour can't win a major..

 

Ironic that everyone here is beating him up for believing in himself when every other great athlete was the same. Tom Brady...same. He still keeps his 6th round draft pick announcement in his locker. Looks at it before every practice and every game, and says it just makes him want to prove to everyone how wrong they all are.  Federer said once "The man who wins is the man who thinks he can". What's wrong with Brooks thinking he can? 

[bladehunter]

28 minutes ago, Christosterone said:

he is very very good…

 

but he’s comparing himself to these two:

look at Jack’s major finsishes…he was top ten In every major except 5 between 70-81…all but FIVE….that’s insane

Likewise tiger in the 2000s

 

brooks is not on the same planet and, as I said, it’s borderline offensive to my golfing sensibilities that he would be compared in any way to jack or tiger..

again, brooks has had a very, very good stretch of 4 years….but to compare him to them is absurd 

 

-chris 

Most forget just how good jack was.  This idea that he was only good because of skinny fields is just false. His resume will never be duplicated. 

[ShowMe]

7 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

429?   I'm guessing around 350 ponies?

 

320 HP, but 460 lb-ft torque.  Not very quick off the line, but a very strong top line once it got going.  It got 8 gallons to the mile.  lol

[bscinstnct]

34 minutes ago, golfortennis said:

So, reading about halfway through this thread, we have

 

• a group defending the honor of Woods at all costs.
• Koepka being called foolish thinking he could maybe catch Woods.
• Koepka being praised for not wanting to finish second.

This is some grade-A WRX stuff.

 

Could he catch Woods?  Maybe.  Will he?  I wouldn't wager a significant sum, but it seems that some are threatened in some way by the mere notion Woods' total could be surpassed.  

 

For those who can recall old school basketball, it was once said Michael Jordan had a big ego.  Quinn Buckner replied, "you can't even play in this league without a big ego."  When is the last time you played a great round thinking you suck?  All professional athletes believe they can do it.  Some are better at playing the modesty game, but some truth serum would reveal a much different person. 

 

I’d love to see him or anybody dominate golf the way TW did.

 

But, break it down.

 

He doesn’t have the game. He is 31. No Masters. No Open Championships. 
 

By his age, TW was closing on his *2nd career grand slam. 
 

BK has had one multiple major season with 2.

 

By his age, TW had 4 multiple major seasons

 

BK has 4 majors in his whole career.

 

TW won 4 majors in 12 months!!

 

Just sayin…

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by bscinstnct

[bscinstnct]

51 minutes ago, Christosterone said:

my dad had a blue 78 marquis 4door sedan….it had shudders over the lights with Mercury logos…it was glorious

it was the deep blue like this one

 

 

 

Nice. This was my Uncle Rico mobile in HS. 

 

Engine was called 350 Rocket. Had a 4bbl. 
 

Could run with a lot of newer cars…if you were going straight 🤣. Handling? Not so good ; )

 

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 by bscinstnct

[stinger_gc]

I mean this is worth 5 majors IMO.

 

[miamistomp]

45 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

I'm not but he's way better than anyone else at the moment. He's probably going to beat out any active player right now.  He shows up for the big ones. He was hurt this year he still went T2, T4 & T6. To get more than 5 in the modern era is going to be hyper difficult. Winning 4 in two years with 8 top 10's surrounding them crazy good.

 I think Morikawa will pass Brooks

[stinger_gc]

1 minute ago, miamistomp said:

 I think Morikawa will pass Brooks

Morikawa's putting will kill him in majors eventually. 

[miamistomp]

 He is 24 years old - he has lots of time to work on putting

   His ball striking is terrific- Hogan and Snead were never the best putters, but they did ok

[tiderider]

7 hours ago, skujan57 said:

Curious as to what were examples of Phil's gamesmanship at the PGA. Brooks reveals that the gamesmanship affected him to the point where he didn't put pressure on Phil.

don't know exactly what that reeks of, but it's something ... phil beat him, square ... 

[TiScape]

49 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

I think most of the negative comments are directed towards Koepka's ignorant, narcissistic, and immature comments about most things in general, not his golf game.

Absolutely. He’s in the same boat as his buddy Bryson in that regard. 

[ShowMe]

22 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Nice. This was my Uncle Rico mobile in HS. 

 

Engine was called 350 Rocket. Had a 4bbl. 
 

Could run with a lot of newer cars…if you were going straight 🤣. Handling? Not so good ; )

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that an Olds Cutlass?  My buddy had one.  It WAS a rocket!  You're right about the handling, though.  We almost died one night taking a sharp turn onto a highway onramp.  Car fishtailed and my buddy overcorrected and we almost went tumbling down the embankment into the highway traffic.  Came this close.  Man, we did some stupid stuff back in the day.  Good times.

[TiScape]

26 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

I mean this is worth 5 majors IMO.

 

If every professional golfer with a cookie cutter blonde wife or GF w/fake breasts got 5 majors for it…. 🤣

Just sayin’ 🤷🏼‍♂️

[bscinstnct]

1 hour ago, physasst said:

 

This....FFS, If I was on the PGA tour, I'd have the same mentality. If you aren't thinking that you could win every single major and you don't want to dominate your competition, why the heck are you even playing? 

 

Jordan didn't want to just beat you. He wanted to humiliate you. He wanted in his own words "to bury you at center court".  He was also selfish. After one of their playoff wins, when he had lit up the score board, early in his career, one of the coaches said "Michael, nice job, but remember, there is no "I" in team".....Jordan turned around and said "Yeah, but there is in WIN, isn't there!" 

 

Tiger had that mentality. I don't want to just beat you, I want to humiliate to you. Jack, heck wasn't Jack the first one to say what Brooks said about most of the guys on tour can't win a major..

 

Ironic that everyone here is beating him up for believing in himself when every other great athlete was the same. Tom Brady...same. He still keeps his 6th round draft pick announcement in his locker. Looks at it before every practice and every game, and says it just makes him want to prove to everyone how wrong they all are.  Federer said once "The man who wins is the man who thinks he can". What's wrong with Brooks thinking he can? 

 

Both Tiger and Brady are obsessed with training and process.

 

Brady practices the most simple throwing mechanics non-stop

 

Tiger once told Nick Whatney a little “secret”….doesn’t matter if it’s a 3 footer fior par on Thursday, or a 6 footer to win a major, exact same thoughts, same process, same putt.

 

BK brags about how he doesn’t practice, that he doesn’t get motivated for non majors. 
 

That’s fine, but it’s the opposite approach and attitude of guys who actually own the record books.

 

And I don’t remember TW or Brady when they had just started putting up championships, ever giving out interviews, laying back in a swimming pool, after 2 years of winning nothing,

 

And talking about how they are going to break the records of the legends of the game. 

Edited September 15, 2021 by bscinstnct

[ShowMe]

22 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

I mean this is worth 5 majors IMO.

 

 

Maybe.  Those major trophies stay nice and bright and shiny over time.  Humans don't.

[ShowMe]

14 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Absolutely. He’s in the same boat as his buddy Bryson in that regard. 

 

Yeah, but rumor has it that Bryson does really by the kids who come to the tournaments.  Very giving of his time.  Not sure if Brooksie does the same.

[miamistomp]

 Last of the rear wheel drives

 This was the king--quicker than the vette ( altho no saying much in the mid 80'S)

 

[TiScape]

Just now, ShowMe said:

 

Yeah, but rumor has it that Bryson does really by the kids who come to the tournaments.  Very giving of his time.  Not sure if Brooksie does the same.

Yeah, good for “the brand”. 😉 But good for him and the kids nonetheless! 👏🏼 

[bscinstnct]

3 minutes ago, miamistomp said:

 Last of the rear wheel drives

 This was the king--quicker than the vette ( altho no saying much in the mid 80'S)

 

 

Yeah, I remember vaguely, was like some special edition?

 

Similar to the Monte SS, those were around a lot. 

[TiScape]

12 minutes ago, miamistomp said:

 Last of the rear wheel drives

 This was the king--quicker than the vette ( altho no saying much in the mid 80'S)

 

Last American car with rear wheel drive? Quite a few modern foreign models have rear wheel drive now. The Grand Nationals and GNXs were the ultimate sleepers back in the day. Well at least for a little while. Didn’t take guys in Camaros and Vettes long to figure out to avoid ‘em! Haha 

Edited September 15, 2021 by TiScape