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I’ve had a similar experience. Been gaming a set of Titleist 718 AP3s and don’t get me wrong great set of irons and like most offerings today stronger lofts more modern shaft. Well I have an older set of Ping i5s that I will never get rid of and being the year they are the loft a a bit weaker and they have DG S300s. Took them out yesterday and wow finished the round saying to myself why did I stop using these again?  Bottom line I hit them longer (with weaker lofts) and with tighter dispersion… In the last two years I’ve tried a few modern offerings, the aforementioned AP3s, Mizuno Hot Metals with Nippon NS Pro shafts, a set of Srixons with Nippon Pro first gen shaft and Ping Es…all great offerings but one thing they all seemed to have is distance control that sometimes was unpredictable. Shots would literally go an extra 5-10 yards with in some cases is great. I guess what I’m saying is I think as Golferx enthusiasts we get caught up in numbers and new offerings that at the end of the day don’t always perform they way we would expect or want them to. Meanwhile the Pings are staying put. Think I’m pretty lucky to have a good set of i5s as they are pretty scarce out there. I’ve come to the conclusion the best clubs have already been done and are often hard to find…Not to dog the manufacturers these days but I feel the focus on better shaft selection has overwhelmed head designs that perhaps have reached their limits within the current rules. Bottom line Ping makes a great club and their engineers know what they are doing a lot more than us.

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1 hour ago, Kale_m said:

Played a set of p750 the last 1.5 seasons. Really like them but have been considering going back to some blades. Well this set of srixon z945 irons popped up on a local but and sell. Decided why not. Traded my p750 heads for them. I plugged in my px6.5 shafts. Hit them for the first time tonight. Oh my! These might be the softest, best feeling and sounding irons I have ever had! I have played lots of irons, also lots of Mizunos, mp4 /5 / 18/20 and these are waaayyy softer!!! Great shape for being from 2013-2014. 2 rounds the next 2 days. See how they work on the course! 

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The z945s and z745s are among my favourite irons that I've never owned! Hit a lot, but never bought a set, though I do use the z745 A wedge as my gap wedge now, along with MP4 irons. Feel is certainly as good as the Mizunos. Better? Maybe. Makes me want to get some of the 945s now.

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945 always looked a Beautiful Iron..like Z Forged 🙂 The i5's are a suprise, G5s were a favourite! Plenty of great Classics out there to rebuild and Love again.

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Wasn't this the model that Harold Varner III and Matsuyama hung on to forever?

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4 hours ago, RogerinNewZealand said:

945 always looked a Beautiful Iron..like Z Forged 🙂 The i5's are a suprise, G5s were a favourite! Plenty of great Classics out there to rebuild and Love again.

I have hit the z-forged. They look huge to me for some reason. Not as compact as these 

Taylormade Sim2 (set at 8.25*)Fuji ventus black 6x

Mizuno STZ 3w 14* atmos black 6x

Srixon zx 3 iron recoil 95x 
Srixon z945 4-PW PX6.5 
Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 s400 TI
Oddessey 7CS Tour 
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4 hours ago, Valtiel said:

Wasn't this the model that Harold Varner III and Matsuyama hung on to forever?

Believe so. 
 

these will get stripped to raw over the winter and will add some custom ferrules 

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7 hours ago, jdowning111 said:

I’ve had a similar experience. Been gaming a set of Titleist 718 AP3s and don’t get me wrong great set of irons and like most offerings today stronger lofts more modern shaft. Well I have an older set of Ping i5s that I will never get rid of and being the year they are the loft a a bit weaker and they have DG S300s. Took them out yesterday and wow finished the round saying to myself why did I stop using these again?  Bottom line I hit them longer (with weaker lofts) and with tighter dispersion… In the last two years I’ve tried a few modern offerings, the aforementioned AP3s, Mizuno Hot Metals with Nippon NS Pro shafts, a set of Srixons with Nippon Pro first gen shaft and Ping Es…all great offerings but one thing they all seemed to have is distance control that sometimes was unpredictable. Shots would literally go an extra 5-10 yards with in some cases is great. I guess what I’m saying is I think as Golferx enthusiasts we get caught up in numbers and new offerings that at the end of the day don’t always perform they way we would expect or want them to. Meanwhile the Pings are staying put. Think I’m pretty lucky to have a good set of i5s as they are pretty scarce out there. I’ve come to the conclusion the best clubs have already been done and are often hard to find…Not to dog the manufacturers these days but I feel the focus on better shaft selection has overwhelmed head designs that perhaps have reached their limits within the current rules. Bottom line Ping makes a great club and their engineers know what they are doing a lot more than us.

This is a good point and one I hadn't really thought of until now, "feel the focus on better shaft selection has overwhelmed head design."  If memory serves, Karsten usually had a shaft and head combo in mind when designing his clubs.  Admittedly I started the game as a kid with way too heavy DG shafts but when I got my Eye2's in high school (still have them :)) it was a game changer.  Not to mention the innovation in the sole and peripheral weighting.  To this day I miss a little offset in the irons on modern clubs...maybe not full Eye2 offset, but just a little is OK by me.  I think Adam Scott and some of the older tour players still have a little offset in their irons for the same reasons, just a look thing from their early days in the game.  

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Wait… 8 year old clubs are considered old school now??  I still have full sets of black oxide 545’s, 745’s & 945’s in my garage.

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13 minutes ago, 95124hacker said:

Wait… 8 year old clubs are considered old school now??  I still have full sets of black oxide 545’s, 745’s & 945’s in my garage.

Well, there are a few more models since these. Old school enough!!! 

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Mizuno STZ 3w 14* atmos black 6x

Srixon zx 3 iron recoil 95x 
Srixon z945 4-PW PX6.5 
Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 s400 TI
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More like middle school, but still very nice. 🤣

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KZG Forged Blade 4, 5, 7-PW

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53 minutes ago, llamont said:

Beautiful score!  I’m with the other posters that those are hardly old school though. Lol. As I the days go by I am more fond of feel/performance than I am with when something was released. Play them and enjoy!

As usual we are of the same old school and thought

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44 minutes ago, Kale_m said:

Well, there are a few more models since these. Old school enough!!! 

Yep and the newest club in my signature the M-6 is considered "old" by some now--- What it is 2 years and 3 golf generations old now

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7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

Irons 4 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

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30 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

Yep and the newest club in my signature the M-6 is considered "old" by some now--- What it is 2 years and 3 golf generations old now

 

It's especially funny to me, because of my relative short time in the game.  I only started playing golf 23 years ago.

 

My MP37s are considered ancient by some, but they came out several years after that late start in the game.

 

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4 hours ago, 95124hacker said:

Wait… 8 year old clubs are considered old school now??  I still have full sets of black oxide 545’s, 745’s & 945’s in my garage.

Guess I'm playing in the geriatric league (Ping i3 irons) but still love their feel and look!

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Short version: These are the best combination of feel, distance, control, and forgiveness I have ever played.  I freaking love them.2D5907B4-1484-40DE-A079-2EF8AA8035E1.jpeg.db6126fe747e7f48a4b447d87bd40cac.jpeg

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18 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

 

It's especially funny to me, because of my relative short time in the game.  I only started playing golf 23 years ago.

 

My MP37s are considered ancient by some, but they came out several years after that late start in the game.

 

I started right around the same time (1996) and my "old school" irons were built in 1984.  Those are still significantly a recent release considering what guys on the Classic forum play on a weekly basis...

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18 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

 

It's especially funny to me, because of my relative short time in the game.  I only started playing golf 23 years ago.

 

My MP37s are considered ancient by some, but they came out several years after that late start in the game.

 

I think in the "mainstream" way of thinking now days anything older than 6 months or 2 generations is considered old and outdated. I do not pay all that hooplaugh any attention. 2 weeks ago I was paired with a guy in the Shootout. pretty decent player with new stuff. He was maybe at times 5 yards longer off the tee than I---- What blew his mind was the fact I could keep up with his 3 wood shots with my antique V-Steel 3 wood. What blew his mind though when on green approaches I was one or 2 clubs behind him. He was hitting some newer TM irons. Could not absolutely understand about lofts. I hope I get him this week because I am going to really blow his mind--- I had been hitting my FC-4000s all week playing vintage golf and hitting them well. They are going in the front line set for this weeks Shootout along with the M-6 and V-Steel 3 and 7 woods. 

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16 hours ago, rwc356 said:

Guess I'm playing in the geriatric league (Ping i3 irons) but still love their feel and look!

That is the league NRJyzr and myself play in and it is fun

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7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

Irons 4 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

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7 hours ago, Jaygolf37 said:

Short version: These are the best combination of feel, distance, control, and forgiveness I have ever played.  I freaking love them.2D5907B4-1484-40DE-A079-2EF8AA8035E1.jpeg.db6126fe747e7f48a4b447d87bd40cac.jpeg

Hey Coach glad to see you on here again------ And yep I see those older Wilson CBs

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3W  TM V-Steel 15* bent to 14 NVS green Aldila 65gr R

7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

Irons 4 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

SW Cleveland 588 56* S-400 sensicore S soft tipped 2x

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34 minutes ago, 14max said:

I started right around the same time (1996) and my "old school" irons were built in 1984.  Those are still significantly a recent release considering what guys on the Classic forum play on a weekly basis...

LOl yup some of us do play older than that stuff but 84 is classic enough IMHO

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Irons 4 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

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9 hours ago, Ripken08 said:

945s "old school"  LMAO

When I referred to them as old school it was to the point of moving to something older rather then to the latest and greatest 

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Cleveland RTX4 50/54/58 s400 TI
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7 hours ago, Kale_m said:

When I referred to them as old school it was to the point of moving to something older rather then to the latest and greatest 

Oh some of us knew where you were coming from all along and I for one agreed with you

Driver--- TM M-6 Evenflow 65gm R set to 9.5

3W  TM V-Steel 15* bent to 14 NVS green Aldila 65gr R

7W TM V-steel 21* Ust Pro Force Gold 65 R

Irons 4 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

SW Cleveland 588 56* S-400 sensicore S soft tipped 2x

LW Cleveland 588 60* S-400 Sensicore S soft tipped 2x

Putter Rusty Santa Fe Bulls Eye fluted shaft

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