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Best budget iron loft/lie tool for both measuring and bending?


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Amateur club builder here, getting tired of taking my irons in, paying to have them bent, and every place seems to measure them differently.  For example, took a forged PW in that was 46*, asked for it to be bent to 48*, but took it in a year later to find it's been bent to 44*.  I would like to measure and bend my own irons/wedges, but can't afford $500+ on a good loft/lie bending machine.  Any decent ones out there that don't cost a fortune?

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Look on Ebay, I had a friend pick up a Mitchel Steelclub Digital for next to nothing a few weeks ago.

 

Driver: Taylormade M5 Tour 9* w/ Fujikura KAMO (671TE) X 

3 Wood: Royal Collection 306V BBD 15* w/ Fujikura Speeder 757 Evo X

Hybrid: Fourteen 868 2 iron Bent to 20* w/ Aerotech Steelfiber 110 X

Irons: Fourteen FH1000 4-PW 1*Strong/1*Up w/ KBS $Taper S+ +1/2

GW: Fourteen RM12 - 50/10   w/ KBS $Taper S+ +1/2

SW:  Fourteen RM12 – 54.5/10.5   w/ KBS 610 130 +1/2

LW:  Fourteen RM12 - 59/9   w/ KBS 610 130 +1/2

Putter: Odyssey 1W Milled @ 34”,4* & 71* w/ Ionmic Mid Size

Ball: Titleist PRO V1X 2020

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IMO, the least expensive way for a hobbyist would be to purchase a decent measuring gauge and make the actual loft/lie adjustments the way Ping does it.  They clamp the hosel in a vice with the club's toe up and then use a rubber mallet to adjust the lie and a rubber lined yoke to bend for loft.  There's a decent amount of back and forth as you have to move btw the gauge and vice as you measure/adjust/remeasure.  This would be a pain if doing a full set of clubs, but if you are only adjusting a wedge every now and then it's really not a big deal.  

 

Watch the below video starting at 8:25 to see what I mean.  

 

 

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I'm of no help for a budget machine - but one tip regarding having someone else bend.  Don't ask them to bend to a specific angle.  Ask them to bend a specific amount from where they are currently.  For example - bend 2* weak from where it currently is.  Or, have them measure the clubs weaker and stronger than the one to bent, to make sure the club being bent fits the progression between the others that you're looking for.  But yes, just saying bend this one club to X will unfortunately give you inconsistent results.

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Honma TR20V 6-11 Recoil Proto 125 F5                                  Ben Hogan TK-15 58* Recoil Wedge Proto 125X

Bettinardi HLX 3.0 56* Recoil Wedge Proto F5                       Ping Vault Anser 2

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35 minutes ago, webwarmiller said:

IMO, the least expensive way for a hobbyist would be to purchase a decent measuring gauge and make the actual loft/lie adjustments the way Ping does it.  

 

If those little taps he was putting on that club are enough to change the lie angle either Pings are really soft or we should all be checking our irons more often because it didn't seem like it took much to move them.

 

Local course has LandL machine in basement.  I had a new set checked to make sure that they had not been altered off of stock set up.  Was free but he only checked three clubs to compare the measurements to stock specs.

 

I need to invest in some club building tools myself.  Scale for heads, scale for swingweight, sander, etc.  I have been doing my own grips for a while now but am going to start messing with iron shafts.

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If you have an iphone, you can use the level option on the measure icon.  

 

Driver:  Taylor Made SIM 2 Max D w Ventus Blue 5🇺🇸 Shaft tipped 1 inch

Fairway Wood: 2014 Adams Tight Lies 14* 3 Wood w PROformance 80g X Shaft tipped 1 inch

                           2015 Adams Tight Lies 22* 7 Wood w Mitsubishi Rayon Kuro Kage 65g shaft tipped 1 inch

Irons:  2014 Taylor Made Tour Preferred MC w KBS Tour S shafts 4-PW                      
Wedges: 2014 Taylor Made Tour Preferred 52,56(Tour grind), 58(ATV grind) w KBS Tour V Wedge flex

Grips:   Kingrasp Midsize Composite Rubber (Budget Iomic - Amazon)
Putter:  Bastain Milled Fusion Golf Prototype 1 of 1 Plumbers Neck w Custom DTG Smoke Shaft @ 33.75" w Super Stroke GTR 1.0
Ball:  Kirkland Signature V3.2

Bag: 2020 Ping Hoofer Lite

Glove: MG DynaGrip Elite

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Order this https://www.golfworks.com/magnetic-protractor/p/pro/,   Only $14.99. Take club to repair shop for loft/lie angle adjustment. Then you can stick it on before you leave shop to determine if they moved the club to the angle you want. If you are charged $14 each time by shop, $500/$14 = 35.7, or almost 36 adjustments. If you plan on doing a lot of adjustments, then you will likely need to spend more than your current budget for a bending machine. If you only do one or two clubs a year, cheaper to have someone else do it, as long as you can check it your self. "Trust buy verify"!!!

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Ping G30 4 Hyb, 22°, Alta CB R flex, std length

Ping G 5 Hyb, 26°, Alta CB R flex, std length

Cleveland Launcher UHX 6-D Wedge + CBX2 SW, std loft/lie, Dynamic Gold DST 98 steel R flex, std length
Cleveland Smart Sole SW, 58°, Dynamic Gold wedge flex, std length

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On 9/15/2021 at 4:59 PM, b.helts said:

 

eehhhhh?  Define "next to nothing".

$400.00 for a Mitchell Hobbyist Machine , the cam out with them Circa 2002 or so for the home user. Came with a bar. The owner had everything with it. 

Driver: Taylormade M5 Tour 9* w/ Fujikura KAMO (671TE) X 

3 Wood: Royal Collection 306V BBD 15* w/ Fujikura Speeder 757 Evo X

Hybrid: Fourteen 868 2 iron Bent to 20* w/ Aerotech Steelfiber 110 X

Irons: Fourteen FH1000 4-PW 1*Strong/1*Up w/ KBS $Taper S+ +1/2

GW: Fourteen RM12 - 50/10   w/ KBS $Taper S+ +1/2

SW:  Fourteen RM12 – 54.5/10.5   w/ KBS 610 130 +1/2

LW:  Fourteen RM12 - 59/9   w/ KBS 610 130 +1/2

Putter: Odyssey 1W Milled @ 34”,4* & 71* w/ Ionmic Mid Size

Ball: Titleist PRO V1X 2020

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Golfmechanix was the cheapest way I could find to get everything you need to measure and bend irons.  I spent about $330 shipped last year.  It can be tedious measuring, clamping, bending, measuring again, etc, but it gets the job done and its accurate.  Grab a few beers before you start and it takes no time at all.

 

 

 

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i have an old scotland difficult to get accurate , remember most haves changed a lot u need one capable of handling this. i will get a few done on a mitchell then find where they are at on mine for calibration. don’t bend cast you will ruin a cheap machine. mine gets used so much but i’m free to all my buddies . 

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