Goodbye Golfer Elbow, Knee Pain, Sciatic Nerve Pain, Hand Wrist Pain, Any Pain

[Abh159]

4 hours ago, Seeking70s said:

I do Not work for the Company, Just helping people with golfer elbow pain and pain.

 

Amazon reviews are great. Read them. 

 

59% 5 stars and 81% 3 stars or better. Those are great numbers.

 

I know at least 50 people that rave about this product in my circle.

 

 

 

This part really had me laughing 😂🤣😂

 

[jomatty]

4 hours ago, Seeking70s said:

I do Not work for the Company, Just helping people with golfer elbow pain and pain.

 

Amazon reviews are great. Read them. 

 

59% 5 stars and 81% 3 stars or better. Those are great numbers.

 

I know at least 50 people that rave about this product in my circle.

 

 

You have no affiliation or financial connection to this company?  No stock or anything?  Just want to make sure I understand… 

[Seeking70s]

3 minutes ago, Purple Toupee said:

Are there 5 studies, or are there 5 approvals? And where was the UK study published?

 

There are 5 FDA Clearances The UK Study was Conducted by the NHS.

 

In a Jist NHS found 58% reduction in Doctor visits related to pain, 42% reduction in Healthcare Costs and 36% reduction in drug costs. They can prescribe about 11 a years and still save $600 per patient a year.

 

http://www.actipatch.com/actipatch/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/ActiPatch-3-month-Cost-Study-Final.pdf

 

Here are the White Papers with references.

 

https://nutesla.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Physics-and-Clinical-Evidence-of-BioElectronics-V10.pdf

 

Amazing Product for Any Pain.

 

FDA Cleared for all musculoskeletal pain.

[Seeking70s]

5 minutes ago, jomatty said:

You have no affiliation or financial connection to this company?  No stock or anything?  Just want to make sure I understand… 

Correct. 

[Seeking70s]

19 minutes ago, dhacker56 said:

I have been to my GP and several orthopedists.  All knew I was there for Golfer's elbow.  NONE recommended this. 

  A better treatment would be PRP.  I believe in chiropractic but not for golfers elbow.  This was invented by a Chiropractor.

That is false. Not invented by a chiropractor.

 

Product is new few doctors or Orthopedists know of this product yet.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Seeking70s
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[Purple Toupee]

10 minutes ago, Seeking70s said:

 

There are 5 FDA Clearances The UK Study was Conducted by the NHS.

 

In a Jist NHS found 58% reduction in Doctor visits related to pain, 42% reduction in Healthcare Costs and 36% reduction in drug costs. They can prescribe about 11 a years and still save $600 per patient a year.

 

http://www.actipatch.com/actipatch/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/ActiPatch-3-month-Cost-Study-Final.pdf

 

Here are the White Papers with references.

 

https://nutesla.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Physics-and-Clinical-Evidence-of-BioElectronics-V10.pdf

 

Amazing Product for Any Pain.

 

FDA Cleared for all musculoskeletal pain.

So not FDA approved.  And no data has actually been published and peer reviewed.

[Seeking70s]

Again 5 FDA Clearances and Yes Peer Reviews are in the white papers.

 

Read.

 

https://nutesla.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Physics-and-Clinical-Evidence-of-BioElectronics-V10.pdf

 

 

[TwistedSister]

KT was created by Kenzo Kase.  Look him up.

[ShowMe]

Oh, I see now.  This is for their electromagnetic device, not their tape.  Looks like an interesting concept.  I'll have to give it a try, though I'm not sure how well it will fit in the lower back area.  Looks like it's better suited for necks, knees, shoulders, elbows, etc.

[Seeking70s]

Missing the point. The product that is in question here is packaged and sold by KT Tape

 

but the product is sold to KT Tape by an OEM. KT Tape did NOT invent this product.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Seeking70s
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[Seeking70s]

1 minute ago, ShowMe said:

Oh, I see now.  This is for their electromagnetic device, not their tape.  Looks like an interesting concept.  I'll have to give it a try, though I'm not sure how well it will fit in the lower back area.  Looks like it's better suited for necks, knees, shoulders, elbows, etc.

 

Use Donjoy for the back area.

 

https://www.donjoyperformance.com/eme-back-wrap

[Purple Toupee]

3 minutes ago, dhacker56 said:

KT was created by Kenzo Kase.  Look him up.

He’s talking about the electromagnetic therapy which has been around forever.  That’s why they can get FDA clearance.

 

You’re better off wearing one of those magnetic bracelets that were popular a while back.  At least they were somewhat fashionable.

[snagy2000]

Legit, I think I saw Daenerys Targaryen sporting this in GoT...

[Seeking70s]

Just now, Purple Toupee said:

He’s talking about the electromagnetic therapy which has been around forever.  That’s why they can get FDA clearance.

 

You’re better off wearing one of those magnetic bracelets that were popular a while back.  At least they were somewhat fashionable.

 

Totally False. FDA has only recently granted clearance to SWT Therapy. 

[ShowMe]

1 minute ago, Seeking70s said:

 

Use Donjoy for the back area.

 

https://www.donjoyperformance.com/eme-back-wrap

 

Thanks.  That looks promising for normal wear around the house, but I don't know if I can wear it while golfing in the summer in 100 degree heat.  But I will check it out for normal wear.

 

Looks like they have a similar device - DONJOY® ADVANTAGE EME REPLACEMENT DEVICE - to what the KT Tape company is selling, too.  Or maybe that's who the KT Tape people are OEMing it from.

[hammersia]

45 minutes ago, dhacker56 said:

FDA approval does not mean it is effective, just that the benefits outweigh the known dangers.  All that means is there is no danger. 

FDA approval levels can be even worse than that, it can often mean just that the product doesn’t cause harm, not that it has any benefits. 
 

Weird thread. 

[Purple Toupee]

10 minutes ago, Seeking70s said:

 

Totally False. FDA has only recently granted clearance to SWT Therapy. 

Do you even know what FDA clearance means?  All you have to do is show that your device is somewhat similar to another approved device and they give it clearance.  These electromagnetic devices have been around forever.  If this got FDA clearance, it means it’s nothing new.  And it’s the device that was given clearance, not the actual therapy.

[Seeking70s]

Try Listening to Kelly Ohara Gold Metal Soccer Player, and at least 17 other Olympians using the product.

 

https://www.facebook.com/kttape/videos/kt-recovery-wave-kelley-ohara/529732788175436/

[Seeking70s]

Just now, Purple Toupee said:

Do you even know what FDA clearance means?  All you have to do is show that your device is somewhat similar to another approved device and they give it clearance.  These electromagnetic devices have been around forever.  If this got FDA clearance, it means it’s nothing new.  And it’s the device that was given clearance, not the actual therapy.

False. First FDA Clearance For This Product And FDA Confirmed 5 Clinical trials and created a NEW CATEGORY for this product called SWT. See my post above too.

[Purple Toupee]

1 minute ago, Seeking70s said:

Try Listening to Kelly Ohara Gold Metal Soccer Player, and at least 17 other Olympians using the product.

 

https://www.facebook.com/kttape/videos/kt-recovery-wave-kelley-ohara/529732788175436/

Are they being paid?

[Purple Toupee]

1 minute ago, Seeking70s said:

False. First FDA Clearance For This Product And FDA Confirmed 5 Clinical trials and created a NEW CATEGORY for this product called SWT. See my post above too.

Of course it’s the first clearance for this product, it just came out.

[TwistedSister]

A little more disclosure... the company distributing and selling this product in the US is indeed a publicly held company, Bioelectronics Corp.  Ticker symbol  BIEL.  They basically purchased the name KT rom a British company that had tapes and patches.  The agreement calls or the US company to pair their device with the patches in a licensing agreement in return the British company will no longer sell their patches in the US aas a separate product.  Of course there are also financial considerations.  Not saying the product may not have merit but there is NO scientific proof of benefits.  BTW the stock sells for .14 CENTS per share or .0014 DOLLARS per share. 

[Seeking70s]

Wow there are a lot of curmudgeons here. For those that can hear and have golfer elbow use the product. 

 

I have led the horse to water.

[TwistedSister]

SWT category was previously a category labelled SWD  and was re labelled in 2015.  So could not have been done or this device. 

[Soloman1]

Woah, hold up. FDA "Approval" can be simply a notification and formality of submitting paperwork that is a notice to market a product.

 

It does not mean it was tested or vetted in any way by the FDA.

 

I can write all the white papers I want.

 

This is not new. This "technology" came from decades ago of devices used to break up kidney stones and also used for "treatment" erectile dysfunction.

 

This is a creepy thread, in my opinion.

[TwistedSister]

4 minutes ago, Seeking70s said:

Wow there are a lot of curmudgeons here. For those that can hear and have golfer elbow use the product. 

 

I have led the horse to water.

But the water trough is fouled!!!  What are your qualifications?

[GwrxMod]

We're done here. Everyone can do their own research and decide for themselves.