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On 10/12/2021 at 12:38 PM, aenemated said:

 

Mean Gene and Gorilla Monsoon basically narrated my childhood.

 

RIP two heroes. 

I'd have to go with Bruno Sammartino for the pin. 

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I don’t think anyone here, like him or not, could conceivably discount the enormous impact of Woods on golf the past two plus decades.  It’s just that the Tour should recognize his, or other significant golfers, impact some other way than cash based on social media presence. 
 

Every other metric of annual or career achievement is performance based; earnings, wins, top 10’s, majors, Ryder cup points, stroke average, etc. Things that mean more to golfers than some kid punching the like button. 

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The PIP should be for current, active players. Otherwise it is just a free cash flow for Tiger....he does not play and I believe this is really unfair to those currently supporting the tour. Hell ...you could say Jack Nicklaus gets more clicks than most players...does he get PIP money?

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On 10/21/2021 at 12:24 PM, WhostherealSlimShady said:

The PIP should be for current, active players. Otherwise it is just a free cash flow for Tiger....he does not play and I believe this is really unfair to those currently supporting the tour. Hell ...you could say Jack Nicklaus gets more clicks than most players...does he get PIP money?

How do we define current and active?  Tiger has more wins and majors since 2018 than most players in that time period, since most have zero.  He could enter next week just to say he did, play a hole and WD with an injury, but I think he is more principled than that.

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On 10/21/2021 at 12:24 PM, WhostherealSlimShady said:

The PIP should be for current, active players. Otherwise it is just a free cash flow for Tiger....he does not play and I believe this is really unfair to those currently supporting the tour. Hell ...you could say Jack Nicklaus gets more clicks than most players...does he get PIP money?


TW entitled to every dime he gets. 
 

He’s lined the tour, the network, and advertisers pockets for decades. 
 

He should be getting envelopes full of cash “kicked up” to him by the players like Tony Soprano ; )
 

Plus, Tiger is an active player. It’s not like he hasn’t teed it up for 5 years. He played in 2020 not to mention winning the Masters in 2019.

 

TW has a lifetime exemption on the PGA Tour. And for most majors. 
 

He’s going to be getting this chunk of cash for a while…

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13 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:


TW entitled to every dime he gets. 
 

He’s lined the tour, the network, and advertisers pockets for decades. 
 

He should be getting envelopes full of cash “kicked up” to him by the players like Tony Soprano ; )
 

Plus, Tiger is an active player. It’s not like he hasn’t teed it up for 5 years. He played in 2020 not to mention winning the Masters in 2019.

 

TW has a lifetime exemption on the PGA Tour. And for most majors. 
 

He’s going to be getting this chunk of cash for a while…

My point was the PIP was not made for the Tiger´s and Rory´s...they already have more cash than they know what to do with. Tiger has played 72 times in the last 10 years,,,with the bulk of those in 3 seasons. He is on IR if not retired. Give the cash to the grinders hitting Instagram, and other Social media hard. To your much overused Tiger "effect"  All sports went up in revenue--- in fact golf was only in third place from 1997-2007 (the big years for Tiger). Tiger had a great impact, but the economy and growth in sport was even bigger. 

 

The greatest percentage increase between the years 1997 and 2007 was experienced by NASCAR (243%) and NCAA Basketball (203%). Golf followed next, with a 193% increase.

Looking at the other sports, it seems as though golf showed greater growth—at least from a player income perspective. The NBA had a 94% increase; MLB, 73%; the NHL, 48% and the NFL, 45%. The summer Olympics experienced a 49% increase in television revenues.

The results are shown in the figure below:

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1 minute ago, WhostherealSlimShady said:

My point was the PIP was not made for the Tiger´s and Rory´s...they already have more cash than they know what to do with. Tiger has played 72 times in the last 10 years,,,with the bulk of those in 3 seasons. He is on IR if not retired. Give the cash to the grinders hitting Instagram, and other Social media hard. Funanally to your much overused Tiger "effect"  All sports went up in revenue--- in fact golf was only in third place from 1997-2007 (the big years for Tiger). Tiger had a great impact, but the economy and growth in sport was even bigger. 

 

The greatest percentage increase between the years 1997 and 2007 was experienced by NASCAR (243%) and NCAA Basketball (203%). Golf followed next, with a 193% increase.

Looking at the other sports, it seems as though golf showed greater growth—at least from a player income perspective. The NBA had a 94% increase; MLB, 73%; the NHL, 48% and the NFL, 45%. The summer Olympics experienced a 49% increase in television revenues.

The results are shown in the figure below:

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I hear ya WtrSS.

 

Yes, the tv contracts were going up anyway, I know.

 

But Tiger in the hunt gets like 50% more ratings. Right?

 

That’s money. 
 

The PIP is all based on metrics. So if TW gets the most, that’s just how it is.

 

I do agree this is a case of the rich getting richer and there should be a way to reward players who drive Eng agent via creating and sharing cool content. 
 

 

 

 

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So the whole point of the PIP is to give TW an extra $8 million every year for the foreseeable future? In all honesty he deserves it, probably one of the most under paid athletes. Tiger means more to golf then any athlete means to their sport. 

 

Just look at 2018 when he was in contention at a regular tournament, the Valspar tournament where Tiger finished 2nd got higher ratings then the US Open.

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2 hours ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

So the whole point of the PIP is to give TW an extra $8 million every year for the foreseeable future? In all honesty he deserves it, probably one of the most under paid athletes. Tiger means more to golf then any athlete means to their sport. 

 

Just look at 2018 when he was in contention at a regular tournament, the Valspar tournament where Tiger finished 2nd got higher ratings then the US Open.

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That right PTm

 

TW like Maximus of sports yo!

 

 

 

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