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Frequent lurker, first time poster... I'm one of those who tweaks and tweaks here and there (stance, grip, the youtube swing tip du jour guaranteed to cure X).  But it always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back.  Especially with driver... snap hooks or mad right balls are pretty common, and I couldn't hit a fade if you held a gun to my head. 

 

Just for gits and shiggles, I'll tell you the main swing thought I've had.  I've been trying to lift the arms up more during the backswing.  A couple months ago, at first parallel my hands were way too deep behind me, leading to across the line and no choice but to sling it over the top.

 

Many many thanks for whatever help you can provide!

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I will also add that I reviewed that driver swing on the range and it looked like I was early extending pretty badly.  I hit a few more afterwards with the thought of keeping that tush back more.  Contact and direction was way better, but again, who knows if it'll be something I can keep up consistently.  Ok I'll shut up! 

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You should check out Kirk Junge on YouTube. Try to learn a simple swing/setup and focus all your effort/energy on improving impact.

 

Then, get fitted for a set of clubs that are really easy to play... For example, 43" 10 degree driver, something like Middleclubs/Perfect clubs from 20 degrees to 30 degrees and then a SL iron set from 7 down at standard 8i length. Grab one wedge, a 54-56* and master it around the greens. Learn a bump and run. You will be single digit HC in a hurry.

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2 hours ago, Acooke2434 said:

https://youtube.com/shorts/6Mq1ne9rnXE?feature=share

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/VhdypimSflA?feature=share

 

Frequent lurker, first time poster... I'm one of those who tweaks and tweaks here and there (stance, grip, the youtube swing tip du jour guaranteed to cure X).  But it always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back.  Especially with driver... snap hooks or mad right balls are pretty common, and I couldn't hit a fade if you held a gun to my head. 

 

Just for gits and shiggles, I'll tell you the main swing thought I've had.  I've been trying to lift the arms up more during the backswing.  A couple months ago, at first parallel my hands were way too deep behind me, leading to across the line and no choice but to sling it over the top.

 

Many many thanks for whatever help you can provide!

You succeeded in lifting the club up more, (which you've overdone) but you still have the same move getting you flat and across late in the backswing. Just throw the clubhead behind you somewhere and smash the piss out of it. 

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Agreed with Thomas, and that is often the danger of trying to correct your takeaway by overexaggerating a "lifting" move in the beginning as it ends up being a bit of a bandaid. Despite not initially getting the club stuck inside, you're still flattening it out halfway through the backswing and shifting around towards an across the line position, which is just flipping from one extreme to the other and robbing you of consistency and power. A PlaneMate style training aid and/or an instructor that can get hands on with you to force you into the right positions would be the recommended ways forward IMO. You have what look like some ingrained movements that you'll need to be drilled out of/away from and that is REALLY hard to do on your own. 

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I appreciate it guys... I did take lessons a few years ago and they did help (distinctly remember takeaway being one of the lessons!) but I find it very hard to mentally commit to the humbling steps back and bad shots you have to suffer through before something clicks.  Horrendous excuse I know...

 

FWIW, here's two more videos today.

 

 

 

 

Trying to focus on getting those hands higher and not so far across.  I feel like it was quite successful with the 7 iron.  But again that takeaway is way too far outside no doubt.  If it's not obvious with two days in a row of range sessions, I can definitely be a bit of a ball beater (keeping one of my whack a mole topics like hands-high backswing in mind at least so not totally aimless!), and that money would probably be better sunk into another session of lessons.

 

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2 hours ago, oz dee cee said:

If you’ve got the time and desire, go get more lessons from a reputable coach that you gel with as a person and in their philosophy. Then work hard. You’ll be fine and shooting low 80’s in a year…

 

Thanks! It's just that "it's gonna get worse before it gets better" hurdle that I have to man up and get over.

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1 hour ago, Acooke2434 said:

 

Thanks! It's just that "it's gonna get worse before it gets better" hurdle that I have to man up and get over.

Not really. If an instructor doesn't have you hitting the ball better in a lesson, they haven't done their job correctly. The great John Jacobs was very adamant about that. Crossing the line isn't a bad thing. Some of the best players that ever walked the planet did it.  I'd like to see a face on to look at a few things. Like I said, just throw the clubhead somewhere behind you. This 'in front' stuff ruins golfers all the time.

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On 10/13/2021 at 8:16 PM, Acooke2434 said:

I appreciate it guys... I did take lessons a few years ago and they did help (distinctly remember takeaway being one of the lessons!) but I find it very hard to mentally commit to the humbling steps back and bad shots you have to suffer through before something clicks.  Horrendous excuse I know...

 

FWIW, here's two more videos today.

 

 

 

 

Trying to focus on getting those hands higher and not so far across.  I feel like it was quite successful with the 7 iron.  But again that takeaway is way too far outside no doubt.  If it's not obvious with two days in a row of range sessions, I can definitely be a bit of a ball beater (keeping one of my whack a mole topics like hands-high backswing in mind at least so not totally aimless!), and that money would probably be better sunk into another session of lessons.

 

Disconnected takeaway. The arms are working behind you because they aren't in sync at all with your pivot. For now forget about getting your hands higher, and work on them working together with your turn, especially early in your backswing.

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7 hours ago, Snarkesor said:

Disconnected takeaway. The arms are working behind you because they aren't in sync at all with your pivot. For now forget about getting your hands higher, and work on them working together with your turn, especially early in your backswing.

Thank you!  I'll show you a video from August where I would argue the takeaway was better, but like I said in an earlier post the hands were way too deep.  So maybe we're looking for a blend of the August and October videos? 

 

 

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Yeah I think a blend is what you should work for.351228209_ScreenShot2021-10-16at11_01_51PM.png.f5e4cb7c43a74d929f897f3fd3380d93.png990048834_ScreenShot2021-10-16at11_05_24PM.png.3a5216a905f951bfd21668edcbfa10da.png

 

The difference between you and Scott here, and why you end up with so much arm lift at the top of your backswing, is that you've allowed your lead arm to adduct to much across your chest in the takeaway. In your October swing, you get away from this by just lifting your arms from the get go. The trick is to maintain in the takeaway the original distance between your arms and chest as you turn.

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8 hours ago, Snarkesor said:

Yeah I think a blend is what you should work for.351228209_ScreenShot2021-10-16at11_01_51PM.png.f5e4cb7c43a74d929f897f3fd3380d93.png990048834_ScreenShot2021-10-16at11_05_24PM.png.3a5216a905f951bfd21668edcbfa10da.png

 

The difference between you and Scott here, and why you end up with so much arm lift at the top of your backswing, is that you've allowed your lead arm to adduct to much across your chest in the takeaway. In your October swing, you get away from this by just lifting your arms from the get go. The trick is to maintain in the takeaway the original distance between your arms and chest as you turn.

I can tell you put a lot of thought into a response... thank you!

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