Why Tiger has had so many surgeries

[TiScape]

14 hours ago, ShowMe said:

 

I do lat pulldowns with 190 lbs.  Does that count?

 

4 hours ago, Redjeep83 said:

haha, no you don’t

Is 190 lbs. suppose to be a big # for lat pulldowns??? Haha. I will say that it is above average. Quite impressive if you weigh 155 lbs and are doing 10-12 reps with great form! But how many reps and how’s the form? Like when my friend told me he was doing DB rows with 70 lbs. Had him show me and… Let’s just say he could do 50 with proper form 😉 Or the guy that says he’s squatting 405 that is only going down about six inches! Haha 

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7 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

 

I think if he weighs 190 or more, it’s possible he can’t rep unweighted pull-ups. If that’s what you meant.

 

But if he weights 160 and pulls 190 for reps, he should be able to knock out some good pull-ups and feel the molten lead!

it's the last ones that make you really feel it.. like you pinched something on the top of your head. 😂

 

[bscinstnct]

4 minutes ago, dropkicked said:

it's the last ones that make you really feel it.. like you pinched something on the top of your head. 😂

 

Ya, the pain of last rep is one thing abut least you moving and yell in defiance!

 

But it’s that time right after you finish where you’re forearms/bis feel like air is being pumped into your veins and you cryin in pain and fear your arm will explode 💥.

[ShowMe]

20 minutes ago, TiScape said:

 

Is 190 lbs. suppose to be a big # for lat pulldowns??? Haha. I will say that it is above average. Quite impressive if you weigh 155 lbs and are doing 10-12 reps with great form! But how many reps and how’s the form? Like when my friend told me he was doing DB rows with 70 lbs. Had him show me and… Let’s just say he could do 50 with proper form 😉 Or the guy that says he’s squatting 405 that is only going down about six inches! Haha 

 

190 lbs. for 3 sets of 8 using excellent form with a wide grip, followed by 3 sets of 8 with bent rows using 65 lb. dumbells one side at a time, followed by sitting rows for 3 sets of 8 using 160 lbs. (have a bad back so have to go a little lighter because of the lack of back support), followed by close grip lat pulldowns for 3 sets of 8 with 190lbs.  That's my lat day.

 

How bout you, slugger?  What does your lat day look like?  Some pullups?

[bscinstnct]

9 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

190 lbs. for 3 sets of 8 using excellent form with a wide grip, followed by 3 sets of 8 with bent rows using 65 lb. dumbells one side at a time, followed by sitting rows for 3 sets of 8 using 160 lbs. (have a bad back so have to go a little lighter because of the lack of back support), followed by close grip lat pulldowns for 3 sets of 8 with 190lbs.  That's my lat day.

 

How bout you, slugger?  What does your lat day look like?  Some pullups?

 

Good routine.

 

But the weight you’re using can range from great (if you weigh 160) to pretty average (if you weight 200). 
 

Some Guys weight over 200 can pull down 250 but barely do 5 pull-ups. 

[TiScape]

36 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

190 lbs. for 3 sets of 8 using excellent form with a wide grip, followed by 3 sets of 8 with bent rows using 65 lb. dumbells one side at a time, followed by sitting rows for 3 sets of 8 using 160 lbs. (have a bad back so have to go a little lighter because of the lack of back support), followed by close grip lat pulldowns for 3 sets of 8 with 190lbs.  That's my lat day.

 

How bout you, slugger?  What does your lat day look like?  Some pullups?

“Slugger” 😂 Well I don’t have a “lat day” per se! But I do have a back day haha. Since you asked. I don’t do the same routine every workout. Always switching things up based on feel. For DB rows I’ll do 12/15 reps with 100 lb. DBs. Bent over barbell rows with 225 lbs for 10/12 reps. lat pulldowns (wide grip/palms facing away) with 225 lbs. for 10/12 reps. Narrow, neutral grip can do more. Seated or standing cable rows 230lbs for 12/15 reps…   Weighing 245 lbs I’m honestly not great with BW pull-ups. Rarely do them. 

Edited October 21, 2021 by TiScape

[MK7Golf21]

 

You are an experienced lifter if you are doing sets of lat pulldowns of 190. I'm 170# and I usually get up to 150 on the lat pulldown for sets. I also do weighted pull ups.

 

I rarely see many people at my golds gym go above 150 on the lat pulldown machine, unless they are huge but even then most of the big guys I see doing around what I do on the machine with good form.

Edited October 21, 2021 by Redjeep83

[ChipStrokes]

2 hours ago, dropkicked said:

or Burpee pull-ups or Muscle Ups or One Arm pull-ups or Body Levers to Window Wipers..... calisthenics and bar workouts was my thing. 🙂

how many you want? 

strict or kipping?

 

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Strict.. kipping is for crossfit...and do it on a bar.. Meet Zef.. the original "Don Dadda"... 🙂

 

[bscinstnct]

18 minutes ago, TiScape said:

“Slugger” 😂 Well I don’t have a “lat day” per say! But I do have a back day haha. Since you asked. I don’t do the same routine every workout. Always switching things up based on feel. For DB rows I’ll do 12/15 reps with 100 lb. DBs. Bent over barbell rows with 225 lbs for 10/12 reps. lat pulldowns (wide grip/palms facing away) with 225 lbs. for 10/12 reps. Narrow, neutral grip can do more. Seated or standing cable rows 230lbs for 12/15 reps…   Weighing 245 lbs I’m honestly not great with BW pull-ups. Rarely do them. 

 

Standing cable row 230! That’s work ; )

 

TiS don’t do lat day. But he be like

 

Trap day! 
 

You guys got me missin the gym now. But not really!
No more waiting at the bench…”excuse me, how many sets you got left?”. Or the idiot with like 4 sets of dumbbells he hoarded around his incline bench. 
 

I got me own custom muscle routine. And it’s dope! 🤣

 

[ChipStrokes]

2 minutes ago, dropkicked said:

Strict.. kipping is for crossfit...and do it on a bar

yup i can do bar as well. just don’t have any on video. i think 8 or 9 strict was my best 

 

i never quite fit to an iron cross on the rings. but i was damn close. my arms were out at about 75* 

Edited October 21, 2021 by ChipStrokes

[dropkicked]

2 minutes ago, ChipStrokes said:

yup i can do bar as well. just don’t have any on video. i think 8 or 9 strict was my best 

 

i never quite fit to an iron cross on the rings. but i was damn close. my arms were out at about 75* 

Was that your video?

If so you're RIPPED! haha 😄🖖🏼

 

75* is pretty fkn amazing budd!

[bscinstnct]

18 minutes ago, ChipStrokes said:

how many you want? 

strict or kipping?

 

Thats you?!

 

Holy! You ripped and border jacked! That all from bodyweight?

 

Now you got me motivated. But I ain’t doin nothin above the bar. Me old!

[ChipStrokes]

2 minutes ago, dropkicked said:

Was that your video?

If so you're RIPPED! haha 😄🖖🏼

 

75* is pretty fkn amazing budd!

 

Just now, bscinstnct said:

Thats you?!

 

Holy! You ripped and border jacked! That all from bodyweight?

 

Now you got me motivated. But I ain’t doin nothin above the bar. Me old!

yup. that’s me. 

 

not all from bodyweight BSC. i was an olympic lifter and competed in crossfit. gymnastics was a huge component of it and i got pretty damn good. 

[TiScape]

14 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Standing cable row 230! That’s work ; )

 

TiS don’t do lat day. But he be like

 

Trap day! 
 

You guys got me missin the gym now. But not really!
No more waiting at the bench…”excuse me, how many sets you got left?”. Or the idiot with like 4 sets of dumbbells he hoarded around his incline bench. 
 

I got me own custom muscle routine. And it’s dope! 🤣

 

Haha. It’s cable rows, not upright rows. Do those on shoulder day 😉 Haha 

Don’t use 230 for upright. That would be beastly! And I agree about crowded gyms. I go to a small private gym my buddy owns. 

Edited October 21, 2021 by TiScape

[dropkicked]

Just now, ChipStrokes said:

 

yup. that’s me. 

 

not all from bodyweight BSC. i was an olympic lifter and competed in crossfit. gymnastics was a huge component of it and i got pretty damn good. 

Let me translate that... CS = beast mode ready.. 😄

Most of my 20's was spent training with europeans who were child gymnasts.. they were absolute beasts.

[ChipStrokes]

1 minute ago, dropkicked said:

Most of my 20's was spent training with europeans who were child gymnasts.. they were absolute beasts.

i played all sports growing up but man i wish my parents had put me in gymnastics. 

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1 minute ago, ChipStrokes said:

i played all sports growing up but man i wish my parents had put me in gymnastics. 

me too!!! it's a great advantage to have.. I came from fight training back ground so calisthenics was a natural draw.. and being in Toronto, with a huge mix of cultures I found myself training with a lot of eastern europeans but mostly those from russia or the former soviet block.. they were all so dam strong!😄  Great times 😃

[bscinstnct]

5 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Haha. It’s cable rows, not upright rows. Do those on shoulder day 😉 Haha 

Don’t use 230 for upright. That would be beastly! 

 

I know but still impressive, standing much harder than sitting, I think, never did them. . Gotta really control the weight. You can’t be cheating rocking back and forth. 

[TiScape]

1 minute ago, bscinstnct said:

 

I know but still impressive, standing much harder than sitting, I think, never did them. . Gotta really control the weight. You can’t be cheating rocking back and forth. 

Yeah exactly. Sometimes I’ll go lighter and do ‘em standing on the flat side of a BOSU ball. Killer core/stability/balance. 

[ShowMe]

2 hours ago, TiScape said:

“Slugger” 😂 Well I don’t have a “lat day” per se! But I do have a back day haha. Since you asked. I don’t do the same routine every workout. Always switching things up based on feel. For DB rows I’ll do 12/15 reps with 100 lb. DBs. Bent over barbell rows with 225 lbs for 10/12 reps. lat pulldowns (wide grip/palms facing away) with 225 lbs. for 10/12 reps. Narrow, neutral grip can do more. Seated or standing cable rows 230lbs for 12/15 reps…   Weighing 245 lbs I’m honestly not great with BW pull-ups. Rarely do them. 

 

Standing cable row with 230?  Uh huh.  Do you cycle on and off the juice?

[miamistomp]

8 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

Standing cable row with 230?  Uh huh.  Do you cycle on and off the juice?

 He says he weighs 245

Weights do not seem excessive for someone that size

[TiScape]

27 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

Standing cable row with 230?  Uh huh.  Do you cycle on and off the juice?

The standing 230 lb cable row is ur example for me juicing?! 😂 The 225 lb bent over barbell rows are way more demanding! I do the cable rows when I’m feeling lazy. Haha

[ShowMe]

2 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Good routine.

 

But the weight you’re using can range from great (if you weigh 160) to pretty average (if you weight 200). 
 

Some Guys weight over 200 can pull down 250 but barely do 5 pull-ups. 

 

I'm old and weak, 59, but I lift with some pretty strong active duty special forces guys.  I've yet to meet anybody who can pull down 250 for 3 sets of 8 in good form.

[ShowMe]

2 minutes ago, TiScape said:

The standing 230 lb cable row is ur example for me juicing?! 😂 The 225 lb bent over barbell rows are way more demanding! I do the cable rows when I’m feeling lazy. Haha

 

Nice deflection.  You should lay off that stuff.  It will kill you in the long run.  

[dropkicked]

25 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

I'm old and weak, 59, but I lift with some pretty strong active duty special forces guys.  I've yet to meet anybody who can pull down 250 for 3 sets of 8 in good form.

I don't know about pull-downs, but how about 195lb -200lb grown man, wearing 45lb weighted vest doing repeated Muscle Ups? (aka Beast/Beast Mode)

This is an old video.... calisthenics!

 

[TiScape]

33 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

Nice deflection.  You should lay off that stuff.  It will kill you in the long run.  

I’ve spent 5 days a week working out for as long as I can remember. I take your accusation as a compliment. Thanks! Not the first time I’ve heard it from someone whose ego won’t let them accept that someone is just bigger and stronger than they are without “cheating”. If it helps, I’m sure your IQ is much higher than mine! 😂 

Edited October 21, 2021 by TiScape

[ShowMe]

47 minutes ago, miamistomp said:

 He says he weighs 245

Weights do not seem excessive for someone that size

 

I guess, if you're young and have a strong back and legs...and wear a belt...and take supplements.  Seated rows are a lot safer on your body over the long run.

[ShowMe]

Just now, TiScape said:

I’ve spent 5 days a week working out for as long as I can remember. I take your accusation as a compliment. Thanks! Not the first time I’ve heard it from someone’s who ego won’t let them accept someone is just bigger and stronger than they are without “cheating”. If it helps, I’m sure your IQ is much higher than mine! 😂 

 

I have no doubt that you're bigger and stronger than I am, just as I have no doubt that my IQ is indeed higher.  😂

 

Arnold used to do T-Bar Rows with 5 plates.  Of course he was juicing back then, too.  You seem to be just as strong as he was, but without juicing.  That's quite the accomplishment.  You must go through massive amounts of protein.

[TiScape]

9 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

I have no doubt that you're bigger and stronger than I am, just as I have no doubt that my IQ is indeed higher.  😂

 

Arnold used to do T-Bar Rows with 5 plates.  Of course he was juicing back then, too.  You seem to be just as strong as he was, but without juicing.  That's quite the accomplishment.  You must go through massive amounts of protein.

225 grams minimum a day. My goal is my BW, 245g a day. I don’t measure every gram though. I just kinda ball park it. 
Ive seen more recent bodybuilding’s doing bent over barbell rows with 315 lbs +. They are on a s*** load of different PEDs. 225 lbs. is quite a bit less. I’m confident if I was on a nice “stack/cycle” I could do the 315. I have no desire to though.

Edited October 21, 2021 by TiScape