Callaway UW

[Radeon962]

Tour seller on the Bay

[jah7838]

I've had some range time and some time on the course with my 21* UW.  I ordered it with the MMT 80s originally, and that shaft was pulled for a Rogue White 80s after 2 range sessions.  For whatever reason, the MMT profile and my swing doesn't work.  I noticed the same thing when I tried the MMT hybrid shaft.  

 

Rogue White is more consistent for my swing, and I'm really enjoying hitting the club.  Each of my range sessions have been into 2-3 club winds, so carry distance has been a little tough to judge, but the ball flight is what I'm looking for.  Gapping on well struck shots between the UW and my 4 hybrid appears to be what I'm looking for. I hit a few balls on Trackman on Saturday, and I was seeing shots carrying in the 205-210 yard range, which is what I'm looking for.  

 

I only hit the UW on layup shots into Par 5s this past week, and a couple of short par 4s, so no real judge on how it holds on greens.  The tee shots I hit with them were just bad swings, but distance was adequate for the strike. 

 

My range session was fun yesterday because I was trying to see how high I could hit it, and it went really high...way higher than any club I can hit in my bag.  We'll see if I end up sticking with the Rogue White, but I'm keeping an eye on shafts on eBay for something that might fit my swing a bit better, but I think this will do for now.  

[guymsullaway]

On 2/22/2023 at 3:34 PM, Scottishducati said:

Anybody play 19 & 21 degree UW’s? I absolutely love my 21 degree with ventus red 9X tipped 2” at 40.5”. I just bought a 19 degree off of a great seller on classifieds and it has an untipped ventus red 8TX in it at 41.5” I believe. I just don’t get along with 3 woods and the 17 degree uw was too low spin for me. I cut my driver if I have it back off my driver but still get it down there enough. Worried they will be too close but we’ll see!

I play both the 19 and 21 degree and find that there is about a 15 yard gap between the 2

[guymsullaway]

OK - so long rabbit role here.  I started off with JUST the 19 degree but found that i hit it almost TOO far and the gapping was too much down to my 4 iron and was too close at times to my 3 wood which i hated.  So i went a got the 21 and 17 degree.  I love the 21 and it filled the gap.  However, the 17 seemed to carry shorter than my 19 as i just couldnt manage to get enough spin out of it.  I have tried a couple of different shafts, but nothing works.  And yes, i did have the same shaft in all 3 of the UW (RDX 80g X flex).  Anyone else have issues with getting the 17 degree to spin enough and stay airborn?  Anyone have any thoughts and suggestions?  Should i just stick with the 19 and call it a done as all i am REALLY trying to get out of the 17 is about 10-15 off a tee and about 5-10 off the deck....but i REALLY dont need it where i play.

[DoubleDawg22]

1 hour ago, guymsullaway said:

OK - so long rabbit role here.  I started off with JUST the 19 degree but found that i hit it almost TOO far and the gapping was too much down to my 4 iron and was too close at times to my 3 wood which i hated.  So i went a got the 21 and 17 degree.  I love the 21 and it filled the gap.  However, the 17 seemed to carry shorter than my 19 as i just couldnt manage to get enough spin out of it.  I have tried a couple of different shafts, but nothing works.  And yes, i did have the same shaft in all 3 of the UW (RDX 80g X flex).  Anyone else have issues with getting the 17 degree to spin enough and stay airborn?  Anyone have any thoughts and suggestions?  Should i just stick with the 19 and call it a done as all i am REALLY trying to get out of the 17 is about 10-15 off a tee and about 5-10 off the deck....but i REALLY dont need it where i play.

What other shafts did you try? Could go lighter on the 17*.

[Scottishducati]

1 hour ago, guymsullaway said:

OK - so long rabbit role here.  I started off with JUST the 19 degree but found that i hit it almost TOO far and the gapping was too much down to my 4 iron and was too close at times to my 3 wood which i hated.  So i went a got the 21 and 17 degree.  I love the 21 and it filled the gap.  However, the 17 seemed to carry shorter than my 19 as i just couldnt manage to get enough spin out of it.  I have tried a couple of different shafts, but nothing works.  And yes, i did have the same shaft in all 3 of the UW (RDX 80g X flex).  Anyone else have issues with getting the 17 degree to spin enough and stay airborn?  Anyone have any thoughts and suggestions?  Should i just stick with the 19 and call it a done as all i am REALLY trying to get out of the 17 is about 10-15 off a tee and about 5-10 off the deck....but i REALLY dont need it where i play.

Absolutely. That’s why I went 19 & 21 degree. The 19 is still around 2700 rpm. I can’t get the 17 to get over 2200 when hit well. That’s with a few different shaft options. It’s just too forward CG for that little loft for me. I’d ideally go 18.5 degree and 22 degree (have no idea what the actual lofts on the ones I have since they’re not Tour issue and haven’t had them checked). 

Edited March 23, 2023 by Scottishducati

[jah7838]

3 hours ago, guymsullaway said:

OK - so long rabbit role here.  I started off with JUST the 19 degree but found that i hit it almost TOO far and the gapping was too much down to my 4 iron and was too close at times to my 3 wood which i hated.  So i went a got the 21 and 17 degree.  I love the 21 and it filled the gap.  However, the 17 seemed to carry shorter than my 19 as i just couldnt manage to get enough spin out of it.  I have tried a couple of different shafts, but nothing works.  And yes, i did have the same shaft in all 3 of the UW (RDX 80g X flex).  Anyone else have issues with getting the 17 degree to spin enough and stay airborn?  Anyone have any thoughts and suggestions?  Should i just stick with the 19 and call it a done as all i am REALLY trying to get out of the 17 is about 10-15 off a tee and about 5-10 off the deck....but i REALLY dont need it where i play.

I originally tried the 17* last fall as a 4 wood option and couldn't launch that thing high enough off the deck because of how low spin it is.  I tried a few mid launch shafts to try and get it to work, but none of them really did what I wanted it to with launch and spin.  

[EaglesGolf99]

I did the same as most with the 17°. Even went as far as a Velocore Red 7x and still couldn't get any type of height or spin. I tried hard too because of how pretty it was behind the ball. Damn near perfect. Finally just gave up because the 19° UW performed exactly how I expected the 17° to perform. 

[Mahamilto]

19* with a ventus black velocore 7x tipped 1.5”

 

It’s perfect tbh. Spins about 3k and carry is 240-245 with about 105ish swing speed. A tad of lead tape on the toe makes it wanna stay open. 
 

Great 5w and never liked 5w before this. 

[reider69]

1 hour ago, jah7838 said:

I originally tried the 17* last fall as a 4 wood option and couldn't launch that thing high enough off the deck because of how low spin it is.  I tried a few mid launch shafts to try and get it to work, but none of them really did what I wanted it to with launch and spin.  

The 17 is definitely a low launch cannon.  I usually put up in my stance quite a bit to get some height on it.  If I want a low bullet to run down the fairway after landing I put ball back of middle.  I play the Rogue White 80x that was a stock option.  I like it but may get a Ventus Blue TR to put in for more stability.

[guymsullaway]

4 hours ago, DoubleDawg22 said:

What other shafts did you try? Could go lighter on the 17*.

i have tried going from an 80 to a 70, as well as going from an X to an S - never really able to get it consistently off the deck but im able to get what i would like out of it off the tee - just cannot keep it elevated  from off the deck

[guymsullaway]

1 hour ago, jah7838 said:

I originally tried the 17* last fall as a 4 wood option and couldn't launch that thing high enough off the deck because of how low spin it is.  I tried a few mid launch shafts to try and get it to work, but none of them really did what I wanted it to with launch and spin.  

are you standardly a high launch/high spin player?  did you try any high launch shafts?  I am a pretty high spin player, and have only really tried low-mid launches and low-mid spin - was thinking i might try something that is a high launch but low/mid spin still.....i also really want it to replace a 3 or 4 wood....i might actually carry the 17 and 19 and then either carry the 21 or 4 iron based on conditions

[jah7838]

3 hours ago, guymsullaway said:

are you standardly a high launch/high spin player?  did you try any high launch shafts?  I am a pretty high spin player, and have only really tried low-mid launches and low-mid spin - was thinking i might try something that is a high launch but low/mid spin still.....i also really want it to replace a 3 or 4 wood....i might actually carry the 17 and 19 and then either carry the 21 or 4 iron based on conditions

I’m not a high launch/high player by any means. As I’ve become a better golfer over the past few years, I’ve struggled with having enough spin on my longer clubs.
 

I’ll typically play a lower spinning head in a higher loft in my driver so I can launch it higher off the tee. On track man, a +1° AoA feels like I’m hitting up a lot on the ball, that will usually get me a 10-12° launch angle. 
 

I did try a few mid launch woods with a blueboard type profile in the 17° UW and still struggled to get the ball in the air high enough. They might work better for you in that head since you are a high launch/high spin player. 

[vmann]

I purchased the 17 and 21 with the Trono shaft when these came out. The Trono is great in the 21, but I the 17 launched way too low. It worked perfectly for a low bullet. I just reshafted with the Ventus Velocore Red and it is awesome now. Ball flight is much higher and more carry with a very tight dispersion. 

Edited March 24, 2023 by vmann

[MikeW2]

I haven’t read entire thread so if asked before I apologize, does anyone know why Callaway didn’t put their Chevron on the crown?

[reider69]

On 3/24/2023 at 4:59 PM, vmann said:

I purchased the 17 and 21 with the Trono shaft when these came out. The Trono is great in the 21, but I the 17 launched way too low. It worked perfectly for a low bullet. I just reshafted with the Ventus Velocore Red and it is awesome now. Ball flight is much higher and more carry with a very tight dispersion. 

Was that a Ventus 3 or 5 wood shaft you cut down?

[vmann]

56 minutes ago, reider69 said:

Was that a Ventus 3 or 5 wood shaft you cut down?

7S tipped 0.5" at 42". 

[reider69]

5 hours ago, vmann said:

7S tipped 0.5" at 42". 

I am not a club builder so forgive me, but did you buy the driver shaft and cut 4 inches off?  

[jblough99]

1 minute ago, reider69 said:

I am not a club builder so forgive me, but did you buy the driver shaft and cut 4 inches off?  

There isn’t a specific “driver” or “fairway” shaft.  All graphite shafts start as a 46” blank and are tip trimmed and butt cut for each specific application.

[RCGA]

Bombers - what distances are you getting out of your 17* and 21* ?

 

I have a 17* and pair it was a 23* driving iron (225y club), but I'm moving to a new club this year and don't really need a driving iron off the tee (new course is about 800y longer). 

 

Also, how are you finding the 21* height wise? 

[McG_Whale]

Hi folks - Has anyone tried and/or are actively playing the the 17* UW one strong, at 16*?   If so, how'd it go?  (thinking in terms of 3w replacement...)

[uglande]

I'm curious, like @RCGA, about people's experiences with the 21 degree and what kind of distance and launch conditions they get. I'm wondering if it could replace a 4 iron (22 degree T100s) or if it would be too hot.

 

Also curious about what kind of gapping people are getting from those who own 21/19 or 21/17. I assume nobody is playing 19/17. 

 

 

[linoleum]

On 3/27/2023 at 5:08 PM, RCGA said:

Bombers - what distances are you getting out of your 17* and 21* ?

 

I have a 17* and pair it was a 23* driving iron (225y club), but I'm moving to a new club this year and don't really need a driving iron off the tee (new course is about 800y longer). 

 

Also, how are you finding the 21* height wise? 

I hit my 21 plenty high, with spin about 4000-4500. Distance about (total) 210-220 y. Have stock 80g Hazardus but 0,5" short. 

 

[RCGA]

What headcover are you using for the 21* UW?

 

Fairway size or hybrid? 

[JMB3]

1 hour ago, RCGA said:

What headcover are you using for the 21* UW?

 

Fairway size or hybrid? 

Both work, but Dormie hybrid size seems to fit best.

[jah7838]

14 hours ago, uglande said:

I'm curious, like @RCGA, about people's experiences with the 21 degree and what kind of distance and launch conditions they get. I'm wondering if it could replace a 4 iron (22 degree T100s) or if it would be too hot.

 

Also curious about what kind of gapping people are getting from those who own 21/19 or 21/17. I assume nobody is playing 19/17. 

 

 

My 4 hybrid is 23* and then I got 21* UW for my 3 hybrid spot.  I have about a 15 yard carry gap between the 2 of the clubs.  Well struck shots with the 4 hybrid goes 185-190 yards, and the UW will carry about 205 yards, which is the gapping that I'm looking to cover.  I then have a 4 wood (18* 5w turned down to 17*) that I play, but I honestly don't know the carry distance off the deck with it because I don't really hit it off the deck often.  

[Glock917]

14 hours ago, uglande said:

I'm curious, like @RCGA, about people's experiences with the 21 degree and what kind of distance and launch conditions they get. I'm wondering if it could replace a 4 iron (22 degree T100s) or if it would be too hot.

 

Also curious about what kind of gapping people are getting from those who own 21/19 or 21/17. I assume nobody is playing 19/17. 

 

 

I’ve dabbled in all 3 and gamed 17/21 pretty much all of last season up until I replaced the 17 with a stealth 2+ 3wood. 
 

The 21 is a pretty hot club. Idk my launch my carry distance is around 235y and my 4i zx utility is about 220y. 
 

gapping for my 17/21 was on par but as a lot of people have expressed here is I experienced very low ball flight with the 17 and tried enough shafts to know that with my swing I couldn’t get it to launch the way I was expecting especially considering both 19/21 just launch so easily. I’ve heard that the uw was not meant to be paired like that and only 1 of the lofts is supposed to fit you and I determined that was the case but if you can do it than more power to you

[Rbsiedsc]

Used this on a short course today (once into a par 3, from rough and once on a par 4 from tee). This 21* is so useful and fun to hit. Sadly i put some sky marks on it trying to hit punch shots from the tee. Paint is on they way to fix them up.

[Sleeky_D]

I was reading through this thread and some have mentioned that they felt the lighter shafts didn’t perform well in the UW. I’m around 95mph driver speed on course and am thinking of getting the 17 or 19* with a ~60g shaft. Does anyone have good/bad experience with a similar setup that can share? It’ll be used as a second tee club on tighter holes so penetrating flight would be ideal 

[Radeon962]

On 10/18/2021 at 2:51 PM, av1084 said:

Are people tending to more sweep this club or hit more down on it like an iron?

I’m a sweeper and why I typically prefer fairway woods over hybrids.

 

I play my UW’s like I play fairway woods and less like irons.