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Like the title says, I feel I hit my 790s too far, and when it’s on the screws it’s just gone. Example: I hit a 9i on a down hill par 3 153 par3 and flew it by 15 yards. 
 

Standard L/L/L with kbs c-tapers. Flex 4-8 R+ and 9-pw is S. Bought them used and the guy said the shafts were hardstepped (I don’t know what that means). 
 

I used to play a decent amount but can’t as much lately. I’m a 12hdcp and have played probably 10 or less rounds this year. 

Could I have them bent weaker and solve my issues? Or should I explore other options? 

 

 

 

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How far downhill was the hole?  Hitting a 9 iron 153 yards is actually doable on a flat lie let alone a downhill one.  What was the actual yardage of the hole accounting for the slope of the downhill because that takes away from the 153 yards you say the hole was.  If the hole was 10 or 15 yards downhill then the actual yardage is about 137 to 143 yards.  No need to bend your clubs so long as you have proper gapping between each club. How far do you expect to hit a nine iron? 

 

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2 hours ago, Brungy said:

Like the title says, I feel I hit my 790s too far, and when it’s on the screws it’s just gone. Example: I hit a 9i on a down hill par 3 153 par3 and flew it by 15 yards. 
 

Standard L/L/L with kbs c-tapers. Flex 4-8 R+ and 9-pw is S. Bought them used and the guy said the shafts were hardstepped (I don’t know what that means). 
 

I used to play a decent amount but can’t as much lately. I’m a 12hdcp and have played probably 10 or less rounds this year. 

Could I have them bent weaker and solve my issues? Or should I explore other options? 

 

 

 


Bending weaker is relevant if you dont have enough stopping power, but thats NOT the issue you describe, thats lack of knowledge about the "15 feet /5 yard rule"

Down hill with a elevation difference of 15 feets, use 1 iron shorter
Uphills with a elevation difference of 15 feets, use 1 iron longer

We simply go one iron longer or shorter for each 15 feets, so the issue is really to judge the height difference, but as long as you know that we use a shorter iron down hill, and a longer iron uphill, you will learn how to judge it, just like distance itself.

UP go UP in shaft length - Down, go down in shaft length, 1 club for each 15 feets/5 yards.

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6 hours ago, Righty to Lefty said:

How far downhill was the hole?  Hitting a 9 iron 153 yards is actually doable on a flat lie let alone a downhill one.  What was the actual yardage of the hole accounting for the slope of the downhill because that takes away from the 153 yards you say the hole was.  If the hole was 10 or 15 yards downhill then the actual yardage is about 137 to 143 yards.  No need to bend your clubs so long as you have proper gapping between each club. How far do you expect to hit a nine iron? 

 

I’d say I usually hit a 9i 155ish

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OP, perhaps its the case that you just haven't dialed in your new clubs yet?  

 

I believe the loft on the 790's is a bit stronger than traditional.  So your 790 9i might be closer in specs to your old 8 iron.  

 

If you like the feel and ball flight from the 790's, it might be worth the time to play them a bit, record your distances with each club each round, establish some averages, and then play to those.

 

You might find that your pw is your new 150yd club.  So what.  As long as you have a club that will hit the ball the number you need, it doesn't really matter what is stamped on the bottom of it.

 

Which (off topic) is why I would really love to see the industry abandon the numerical naming system for irons and instead stamp the lofts on them, like you see on wedges.

 

Of course, if they did that, they would no longer be able to say "our 7 iron goes 10 yards further than your old 7 iron," when the new "7 iron" has the loft and length of an old 6 iron.  

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1st & 2nd gen P790s are notorious for having a few too-hot zones on the face that will send your ball an extra 10+ yards.

If you bend them a degree weak that should add some spin, but that's not going to alleviate the issue. Normally hitting a 9i 145 with 160 being the "jump" and bending so 140 is normal with 155 "jump" isn't going to solve the problem.

 

Your best bet is to sell and find some clubs that offer you more control instead of playing irons in the "players distance" category.

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6 minutes ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

1st & 2nd gen P790s are notorious for having a few too-hot zones on the face that will send your ball an extra 10+ yards.

 

I definitely agree on this. I had a set for just a few months. I didn't like them at all.

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Those are "players distance" clubs WITH stronger lofts............ "too far" was what they were aiming for in the marketing department lol

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If your distances aren't consistent that's possibly related to playing so infrequently, possibly that they're just not the right clubs for you.

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I would bend them weaker if you are hitting flyers. It comes from not getting enough spin. No such thing as a "hot zone" on an iron.

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11 hours ago, Brungy said:

Like the title says, I feel I hit my 790s too far, and when it’s on the screws it’s just gone. Example: I hit a 9i on a down hill par 3 153 par3 and flew it by 15 yards. 
 

Standard L/L/L with kbs c-tapers. Flex 4-8 R+ and 9-pw is S. Bought them used and the guy said the shafts were hardstepped (I don’t know what that means). 
 

I used to play a decent amount but can’t as much lately. I’m a 12hdcp and have played probably 10 or less rounds this year. 

Could I have them bent weaker and solve my issues? Or should I explore other options? 

 

 

 

 

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The purpose of the 790's is for distance.  This is like buying a Ferrari and saying it's too fast. 

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11 hours ago, Mustard_Tiger said:

Bending them solves nothing. If you think you can't hit each club a consistent distance you should sell them.

You get some crazy numbers with P790s (and similar irons) because they are very low spin due to the design and static lofts. Bending them weak will absolutely help to a certain extent

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1 hour ago, rsballer10 said:

I would bend them weaker if you are hitting flyers. It comes from not getting enough spin. No such thing as a "hot zone" on an iron.

 

Incorrect

 

For a solid iron.......sure

 

For a multi piece, hollow, foam filled iron, there certainly can be hot zones

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9 minutes ago, PixlPutterman said:

 

Incorrect

 

For a solid iron.......sure

 

For a multi piece, hollow, foam filled iron, there certainly can be hot zones

That's from the spin reduction, not from an increase in ball speed. Catch it a little too high on the face, or some grass between the ball and the club and the spin drops too low for the shot to be controlled. If the iron had a hot zone, there would be severe deviations in ball speed.

 

I bet if OP bends the lofts weaker that distance control would improve. If the iron had a hot zone, the change in loft would have no effect on distance control.

 

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when i was testing these just when they came out -- they were crazy hot. ainnobody got time for a 200+ 7i. 

the best thing the OP could do is possibly blend the set -- get different irons in the shorter clubs so he gets less 'hot' shots and more consistent dispersion. 

 

keeping the P790 in the long irons isn't a bad idea tho -- they're rocket launchers. 

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9 minutes ago, Jim.83 said:

'I hit my 790s too far' - well take a club less

 

Also, my dick is too big and it really hurts my girlfriend.  any advice?

you're new here...i'd suggest you think on what you say. 

 

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19 hours ago, rsballer10 said:

 No such thing as a "hot zone" on an iron.


What? in theory its no such thing on solid club heads, but it is, depending on if your impact is directly in front of COG or not, and for HIGH COR face irons like TM 790 it there is "Hot and not so hot" areas of the face who makes a variable ball speed and by that variable distance, just like it is on drivers and woods. This variable COR, or the effect of it, variable power transfer ratio is actually a problem with them since irons is precision, NOT distance clubs for transport strokes.

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2 hours ago, JDIL said:

So it’s the sweet spot. Fliers = golfers finally hitting the sweet spot. 😂

 

That's what I think it is,  or they catch them a little high where it knocks the spin off.  My 770s are just as good with distance control as my previous set.  I feel like these "fliers" are coming from flushed shots more than anything.

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