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Curious if anyone has any experience with Project X IO 6.5? I have seen some feedback here with IO 6.0. Some do not feel like IO is a natural replacement for PXi even though it was designed for that purpose. At the same time, golf shaft reviews indicates that PX IO 6.5 is a true X flex. PX IO 6.5 has the same tip torque, butt torque, and EI area as PX LS 6.5. The prevailing wisdom is that weight = flex in steel. That being said, PX IO 6.5 looks fairly stout on paper. May be worth a demo. Still have yet to see IO in a tour bag while PXi continues to have a loyal following. Not like True Temper to discontinue a successful product without a good replacement. 

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What I found with PXi vs IO is TT is pretty stupid at either manufacturing and/or describing the shafts.  And I'm not basing this on one set of shafts, but three sets.  

 

I played PXi 6.0 for years, since they were released to beginning of this year.  I went to a fitting last year with cool clubs and they put the irons on the freq machine and my favorite irons were coming in at 5.2 and I'm like what??? That can't be.  I went home and got my other two sets and same thing, playing much shorter than stated flex.

 

I had another set of irons with new IO 6.0 and hated the feel.  Why?  Because they actually are 6.0 - 6.2.  And they feel stronger at the tip vs PXi.  That might be great news for some of you, but not me.

 

So I sum it up as yes, the IO are the lighter weight version of PX, they play close to stated flex, but they are nothing like PXi.  And fwiw, I currently pay LZ 6.0, and happy with them.

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7 hours ago, CasualLie said:

What I found with PXi vs IO is TT is pretty stupid at either manufacturing and/or describing the shafts.  And I'm not basing this on one set of shafts, but three sets.  

 

I played PXi 6.0 for years, since they were released to beginning of this year.  I went to a fitting last year with cool clubs and they put the irons on the freq machine and my favorite irons were coming in at 5.2 and I'm like what??? That can't be.  I went home and got my other two sets and same thing, playing much shorter than stated flex.

 

I had another set of irons with new IO 6.0 and hated the feel.  Why?  Because they actually are 6.0 - 6.2.  And they feel stronger at the tip vs PXi.  That might be great news for some of you, but not me.

 

So I sum it up as yes, the IO are the lighter weight version of PX, they play close to stated flex, but they are nothing like PXi.  And fwiw, I currently pay LZ 6.0, and happy with them.

 

More than a lighter weight Project X, IO may be a lightweight version of PX LS. The matching finish starts to make more sense. Also why they don't make a LS lighter than 6.0. If you want a PX LS 5.5 you should get PX IO 6.5. The interesting part is golf shaft reviews testing data makes it look like PX LS 6.0 and PX IO 6.5 are almost the same shaft. LS 6.0 and IO 6.5 have nearly the same EI area (stiffness), tip to butt ratio, tip torque, butt torque, weight, balance point and set range stiffness. 

 

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32 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

 

More than a lighter weight Project X, IO may be a lightweight version of PX LS. The matching finish starts to make more sense. Also why they don't make a LS lighter than 6.0. If you want a PX LS 5.5 you should get PX IO 6.5. The interesting part is golf shaft reviews testing data makes it look like PX LS 6.0 and PX IO 6.5 are almost the same shaft. LS 6.0 and IO 6.5 have nearly the same EI area (stiffness), tip to butt ratio, tip torque, butt torque, weight, balance point and set range stiffness. 

 

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Good post.  Makes a lot more sense than anything TT says.  I have no idea how TT can say the IO "takes the DNA of the popular PXi shaft and evolves it...". Evolves it by doing what???  The shafts are not even close.

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8 minutes ago, CasualLie said:

I have no idea how TT can say the IO "takes the DNA of the popular PXi shaft and evolves it...". Evolves it by doing what???  The shafts are not even close.

 

To be fair humans and bananas share 60% of the same DNA 

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OP...Ive gone Nippon SPO, PX, PXLZ, Modus 130, Modus 120, Modus 125 and now playing the PX IO in my gamers and have nothing but consistent things to share.  They are smooth, less off/on and more smooth compared to the PX and feel similar to me to the LZ in terms consistency albeit a slightly higher flight. They do seem a little softer than all the shafts listed and with the weight is exactly what I needed. I also love the brushed finish of the shafts that match my iron heads nicely.  I would say if you have a smooth to slightly faster than smooth swing tempo, they are a great match.  For the hulk handle pullers, for sure NOT the latest PX for you as that is the LS or several other brand shaft models that are more suited.

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On 12/13/2021 at 5:35 PM, Pepe8714 said:

I wonder how these compare to the project x 95 flighted (discontinued a few years ago). They were billed at the time as the lighter weight project x

 

does anyone have an EI profile of the 95 flighted to compare?

 

I would love to know as well. I still play PX 95 Flighted in my X Hot Pros.

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I also like the LZ but I find the IO to be basically a friendlier feeling Project X Rifle. Just my opinion and feel, but I peg the IO as slightly softer than a PX Rifle. I’m not sure it is even a full flex. If you play Rifle 5.5 you will find IO 5.5 not as stiff and you probably could also play IO 6.0. More about preference and weight to make that call. 
 

I find the IO 6.0 feels stiffer than the LZ 6.0, and that is even though the LZ 6.0 is 10 grams heavier. The LZ has more kick in the middle than any PX iron shaft and it’s a little different feel. I get really good distance with the LZ. Almost like PX’s version of a Blueboard iron shaft. 
 

The IO 6.0 feels considerably firmer than the old PXI 6.0, and I would agree they’re not that similar. The IO, I would think, is aimed at Rifle players who are getting older and their wrists and elbows are aching. 

 

I’ve always loved Rifle shafts so IO works for me. I like the powerful action. To me the IO 5.5 at 105g feels very stable and smooth and it’s my favorite shaft in that weight.

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