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10 minutes ago, golfortennis said:

 

And if a club is member owned?  There really isn't much of a difference.  Whether it's personal property or a business, I don't see the word charity in there.  A business is owned by *somebody*.  And that owner is selling a product, which in this case, is a golf course to which they will have ample access for the premium they are paying.  This kind of stuff hurts that value proposition.

 

If you paid for something, you have the right to decide how it is used.  If you paid for a membership that said no public play is allowed, you have a right to not be happy with public play.  

 

It's the attitude of "why can't I have these things as well you should let me have them" that really stuck in my craw.

 

 

I mean, I don't fully disagree with you. I just think your example is cretinous. 

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On 10/27/2021 at 1:14 PM, CDM said:

 

Interesting. Was pretty sure they only allowed accompanied guest?

It could depend on time of year. I know of a few places that allow unaccompanied, but not during peak season and not on weekends during their fringe season, but do allow them out of season. For e.g. playing unaccompanied on Long Island in October will fly at most of the places there, but that changes if you try to go during the summer. Places have been even more stringent since the onset of COVID.

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1 hour ago, Chilidog said:

I don’t think I would break off a friendship because he snuck into a private club. 

You said you have been embarrassed by them a lot times. "Ehhh…it’s ok. I’m embarrassed by them a lot of times as well. But, they are still my friends."  They impersonated a highly respected pro to gain access. I wonder if he would find it funny. Why don't you call him and ask how he feels about it? At least they paid.

 

If they were kids I could understand it. 

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3 hours ago, Robber6656 said:

You said you have been embarrassed by them a lot times. "Ehhh…it’s ok. I’m embarrassed by them a lot of times as well. But, they are still my friends."  They impersonated a highly respected pro to gain access. I wonder if he would find it funny. Why don't you call him and ask how he feels about it? At least they paid.

 

If they were kids I could understand it. 

I’ve definitely been embarrassed by some of my friends for a lot worse. I guess to each his own for ending friendships. I’m a pretty fiercely loyal guy. 

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On 10/28/2021 at 2:54 PM, 4bees said:

Exactly what I said.  This is not a big deal.  Who really got hurt in this situation.  Not one person.  

 

For everyone that hates this, its seems that they would rather keep everyone that cant afford this or that beneath them.  God for bid someone who cant afford a $100K initiation fee gets onto their course and pays for the round.  They must have stole food out of your childrens mouth doing this.  

I don't think that is the point at all.  It has nothing to do with attitude.  It's all about having a course with limited play.  That's a lot of what you pay for.  

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On 10/29/2021 at 12:56 PM, mci711 said:

 

This is so much different. While I don't agree with the guys who scammed their way on to the course in the original post, you are comparing a business vs a home/personal property. If someone got onto my club this way I legit wouldn't care the very least bit. 

 

Maybe not for one person.  Or a foursome.  Or two foursomes.  But at some point the limited play club you paid to join would be visibly harmed.  

 

Scamming is stealing and harms the club.  One time may not be measurable but it will if it increases.

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Yeah this is something that would PO membership WAY more than club staff. Don’t forget membership ultimately pays, hires and fires club staff. Could have bad repercussions for multiple parties depending on what/who in membership finds out. Some people in this world ultimately have that queen of hearts/off with their heads vibe and that would have ended badly.

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