Maltby 2022

[Lemonde]

14 hours ago, AKA_Double J said:

Popeye - thanks for your tips and insight as always.  Looking forward to your review of the new wedges and irons when they become available. All of the new stuff is looking great! 

Looks very Adams like. I think A4ish and somewhat CMBish . Very nice

[PhlashPhace]

20 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

If people are ashamed to play a Maltby head... then I don't know what to say. If you hit ANY of the new offerings against ANY AND I MEAN ANY OEM head you will give away nothing in performance. 

The old argument is that if you buy a $500 set of Maltby irons then the resale is really low. BUT.. if you buy a $1400 OEM set they depreciate at the same rate just on a different scale, sometimes worse... so you still have spent Way less money. 

Most people who try a Matby iron make them their next purchase. Few if any Maltby player I have ever met will hide the fact that thier heads say Maltby. If people can't understand the value and quality of a Maltby head then it's their loss. 

I take money on the course from people with fancy OEM gear on a very regular basis. 

I'm also the only player out of 66 people in my simulator league who plays at a plus cap. Matby irons do just fine being stamped Maltby. 

You didn't understand my post.  I've had a Golf Works trade account for 20 years so I know a thing or two about their head offerings.  I never said anything about someone being ashamed of playing a Maltby head but rather if they were left unbranded and put on the shelves at a golf store would they sell better.

 

I personally haven't liked the shape of their iron heads and wedge heads over the years so I've never had them in the bag but I have sold quite a few sets.  My experience isn't the same as yours as far as most people that try them buy them but I've had a couple loyal Maltby customers over the years.

[VicBC]

Britt included more information regarding the TS4's construction, including "There is internal tungsten as well as another material.  It is not injected and it is not a a hollow two piece construction."

 

From: https://ralphmaltby.com/questions/question/ts4-manufacture-and-cost-estimate/

 

Can't wait to try these out.

[Mr_Wolfe]

Probably no chance of a raw finish I am assuming?

 

Mr. Wolfe

[ProStryker]

How accurate are their playability ratings?  On their website, it says the Cally Apex Pro 21 6 iron is more forgiving than the regular Apex 21 6 iron model..  that doesn’t sound right.  

[ThinkingPlus]

30 minutes ago, Mr_Wolfe said:

Probably no chance of a raw finish I am assuming?

 

Mr. Wolfe

I doubt it.  Only the biggest OEMs can get away with selling rust for an even bigger profit.

[ThinkingPlus]

12 minutes ago, ProStryker said:

How accurate are their playability ratings?  On their website, it says the Cally Apex Pro 21 6 iron is more forgiving than the regular Apex 21 6 iron model..  that doesn’t sound right.  

The lower CG of the Pro offsets the larger "C" dimension and slightly higher MOI of the Apex.  The playability is essentially the same.  Callaway markets the Apex as easier to hit than the Pro, but the measurements don't really support that assertion.

[Bdck]

1 hour ago, ThinkingPlus said:

I doubt it.  Only the biggest OEMs can get away with selling rust for an even bigger profit.

Supply & demand amigo

[Ivyguy]

On 12/31/2021 at 10:15 AM, Lemonde said:

Looks very Adams like. I think A4ish and somewhat CMBish . Very nice

That was the first thing that came to mind. Great clubs

 

Yani Tseng played them. 

[ThinkingPlus]

8 minutes ago, Bdck said:

Supply & demand amigo

Tools not jewels.  Rust does not enhance performance. 

[Mr_Wolfe]

11 hours ago, ThinkingPlus said:

I doubt it.  Only the biggest OEMs can get away with selling rust for an even bigger profit.

lol, I like to put my own finish on the club.

 

Mr. Wolfe

[Bdck]

On 1/10/2022 at 9:23 PM, ThinkingPlus said:

Tools not jewels.  Rust does not enhance performance. 

Neither does chrome

[Red4282]

Im in the process of building a set for my old man and was going to do a ts1/ts2 combo. After seeing these new offerings, im interested for my own bag! Well done!

[PhillipG78]

Any idea how easy to the TS-4 will be to bend, they sound very similar to the P7TW and the Ping BluePrint and 59’s. Would love to get a set with same specs as the P7TW’s

[wcbjr]

On 1/10/2022 at 9:23 PM, ThinkingPlus said:

Tools not jewels.  Rust does not enhance performance. 

 

Taylormade says otherwise, at least for wedges.

 

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With chrome wedges, the data showed an approximate 50% reduction in spin on wet shots. With raw, there was only about a 25% reduction – showcasing a significant improvement.

In addition, testing showed that chrome-plated wedge shots could experience a 6°-8° increase in launch going from dry to wet, while a raw face would only result in a 2°-3° increase.

 

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/clubhouse/158640-raw-face-wedges-why-they-work-and-tips-for-adding-rust.html?lang=en_US

[Ivyguy]

3 hours ago, wcbjr said:

 

Taylormade says otherwise, at least for wedges.

 

 

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/clubhouse/158640-raw-face-wedges-why-they-work-and-tips-for-adding-rust.html?lang=en_US

The other site, has done a huge study on this…. Rust is merely a look thing. 

[wcbjr]

8 minutes ago, Ivyguy said:

The other site, has done a huge study on this…. Rust is merely a look thing. 

You are correct, I apologize.  It's not the raw that helps spin, it's the lack of plating in most cases.  Plating can "shallow the groove and soften the edge radii".  (source: other site 2019 most wanted wedge)

Edited February 16, 2022 by wcbjr

[Red4282]

3 hours ago, wcbjr said:

 

Taylormade says otherwise, at least for wedges.

 

 

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/clubhouse/158640-raw-face-wedges-why-they-work-and-tips-for-adding-rust.html?lang=en_US

Thats all fools gold

[Tupperwolf]

I'd definitely be interested in shafting up one of the TS4 blades when they come out.  Wonder what the price point per head will be, would be nice if they are in the $30-40 range like the other simple forged heads, although that prototype looks like it has a CNC milled sole which could raise the price a touch.

[Millhill88]

How about a replacement for the KE4 Tour FDI?   Anyone have info on those plans?

[Millhill88]

Still excitedly waiting for the next bit of info to drop on the new TS3 & TS4.  I realize all of the TS irons have game improvement factors, but in terms of playability from hardest to hit, to easiest, I'm thinking...  Am I on point here?

- TS4 = Hardest

- TS1

- TS3

- TS2 = Easiest

[ShakeyT]

The Max Milled wedges with the weight ports on the back look great. Wonder when they will be in stock.

[propman]

1 hour ago, ShakeyT said:

The Max Milled wedges with the weight ports on the back look great. Wonder when they will be in stock.

GW est they will be in stock next month (April) 

[Flacoman]

Any word on the TS-3 & 4 ?

[blarkin97]

I'm thinking a TS3 set is almost guaranteed to make a set up for the bag.  Hope they can be here sometime in the summer so we can at least play them a bit.  If they don't come out until fall won't be much time to put them in play for us northerners

[landshark]

any update on release date of the ts3?    wonder how the topline and sole look, especially compared to the TE forged?

[Kyfra]

12 hours ago, landshark said:

any update on release date of the ts3?    wonder how the topline and sole look, especially compared to the TE forged?

Probably better off asking on the Maltby forum. Those guys are pretty responsive.

[propman]

A March 28th update from Golfworks that appeared in their forum:

 

TS3’s are moving along.  Waiting on first complete set metal pre-production samples.  Hopefully have those soon.  From there, if approved, we would move to production and then would have more solid availability date.  Late this year is is our hope.

On the TS4’s, I made some design changes from the original #6 iron metal samples.  A little tweak in a couple of places I had to make to get to the target specs I want.  Probably delayed us a few months.  Looking more like a 2023 release on the TS4, but if there are no more changes, we might make late this year.

[dlow206]

im intrigued by the KE 4 max irons because the horizontal CG is actually slightly toe side. i live on the toe side of my irons. don't think i have ever hit a hosel rocket ever. im the toe shank guy

[Kyfra]

KE4 Max heads are now in stock.