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Just got my Maltby TS2 4 iron head and Tensei shaft. I'm hoping this 4 iron will hit the sweet spot between my Sub 70 699 (I should have gotten the Pro) and Mizuno MP-18 Fli Hi.

 

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4i - Titleist U-500 Tensei Blue Stiff                                                                                                   6i - Titleist T100

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Have a Titleist 718 TMB 4 iron with MMT 105 shaft. Serves its purpose well. Not longer than my set 4 iron on center hits. It does launch higher (at the same loft), descent angle is steeper, and much more consistent on mishits. 

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23 hours ago, Jack Pearsall said:

Titleist tmb 4 is 24*...still uncertain about it as it feels harsh though it is effective....

I can't imagine why TMB 4 is harsh. 

 

I hit the 716 TMB line, and 718 TMB line, both were sweet.  I used to play Titleist 716CB's along with 716 TMB 2i.  Since 718 TMB line was introduced I carry 718 TMB 2 iron, which blends nicely with my 620 MBs & CBs. 

 

I am always fascinated when I think I miss hit the ball, and the ball still flies relatively straight and long.

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On 11/8/2021 at 7:02 PM, LilSpeedline said:

For the last 5 years I've played a 21 degree hybrid in place of a 3 iron, with 3 wood being by next longest club.  The gap between my hybrid and 3 wood has always been the largest in my bag (about 25-30 yards).  I am considering switching to a 19 degree hybrid that will play more like a 5 wood and narrow the gap.   I think it would be cool to then swap out my regular 4 iron to a driving/utility 4 iron to have a little more power with my longest iron.  Has anyone had success with this set up?  Most utility irons that I see are 2 or 3 irons so I am curious if anyone is gaming a 4 iron.  Any favorites?  

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Just got my 4th 4 iron today (that's 2 new 4 irons in the last month). The Maltby TS2 is actually pretty damn good but I found a Titleist U-500 with the shaft I like on eBay and I couldn't resist. I've put it in the bag ahead of the Maltby just because it looks nicer in there with my Titleist hybrid and fairway wood.

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3W - Titleist TSi2 15* Tensei Blue Stiff                                                                                             4i - PING i210

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4i - Titleist U-500 Tensei Blue Stiff                                                                                                   6i - Titleist T100

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LW - Ping Glide 3.0 60*/8* stock shaft Eye 2 Grind                                                                        PW - Srixon ZX-7

Putter - Toulon Columbus w/ LAGP 135 shaft                                                                                  GW - Wilson Staff CB

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On 11/9/2021 at 2:45 PM, Pepperturbo said:

I carry a 16' 4wd followed by a 2i and 3i-PW, etc.   I can't imagine what value a 'utility' 4 iron brings. 

 

I was in the rough late weekend after wonky drive on Par 5; used 4 iron to get down to short iron in, another time used 3i out of rough.  Granted, the rough was only 2.5-3" deep, still it was rough.  If the rough was 4-5" deep, I'd use a short iron to get back in play.  I won't be baiting off more than necessary.

And yet you use a TMB 2. Why bout use a CB 2 iron to match your set? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️#winkwink …. 

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On 11/11/2021 at 4:08 PM, Pepperturbo said:

I can't imagine why TMB 4 is harsh. 

 

I hit the 716 TMB line, and 718 TMB line, both were sweet.  I used to play Titleist 716CB's along with 716 TMB 2i.  Since 718 TMB line was introduced I carry 718 TMB 2 iron, which blends nicely with my 620 MBs & CBs. 

 

I am always fascinated when I think I miss hit the ball, and the ball still flies relatively straight and long.

 

The harsh feel is puzzling.

JP changed the shaft it came with, figuring the Project Pxi were the issue. Installed a Rifle FMC 6.0 which is a long-standing fave of Jack Pearsall.  Still feels harsh. 5 iron ap2 feels great, same shaft, same grips. The tmb functions as it should, but it feels like Word not allowed. Looks cool. Mystified.

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4 hours ago, Jack Pearsall said:

 

The harsh feel is puzzling.

JP changed the shaft it came with, figuring the Project Pxi were the issue. Installed a Rifle FMC 6.0 which is a long-standing fave of Jack Pearsall.  Still feels harsh. 5 iron ap2 feels great, same shaft, same grips. The tmb functions as it should, but it feels like Word not allowed. Looks cool. Mystified.

I had a set of 716 T-MB’s and I thought they felt terrible on full swings at start, but oddly found them to feel great with knockdown punch shots….. I started to consciously hit it a bit higher on the face with some steeper digging type swings, and they felt better after that. I never had a problem off the tee, but the turf interaction didn’t work for my swing. 
 

I am convinced the sweet spot on those clubs are a groove higher than almost anything I’ve hit before. I started to hit them well, but figured they took more of an effort then the blades I played for 20 years before them. They seem to work better if you de-loft the club at impact and have major shaft lean, at least that was my experience with them YMMV! 
 

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On 11/21/2021 at 11:20 AM, boggyman said:

And yet you use a TMB 2. Why bout use a CB 2 iron to match your set? 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️#winkwink …. 

I would except neither of the 620 series iron sets offer 2 iron.  I have been using TMB 2 iron cause its specs and blade design match up nicely with my irons.  My previous set of 716CBs had an 18' 2 iron, and loved it but later bought 716 TMB 2 iron, which was a bit longer.

 

I never liked the u500 or 510 as it was too large with different specs.  So I went with 718 TMB 2 iron and quite happy.  That 718 2 iron is amazing.  Yesterday off a 289yd Par 4 I smacked it into a breeze, dead down the middle, measured 215yds.  Not bad for an ole man.  Unfortunately, it ran into some mushy turf. grr...

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