Finally, a tip that works (No bull)!!!!!!!!

[Bigputter2021]

I have tried them all. Watched hundreds of Youtube videos. Read dozens of books, taken countless lessons. To no avail. I have sucked, yes indeed. Been in the 90s for years and years.

Well, I am in the medical profession, and a patient gave me a tip that truly works. It has made a huge difference in my ball striking. Seldom post here, and was reluctant to post this tip until I found it to be valid, and not some fluke. So here it is. Try it, it is amazing in its simplicity, it works.

I will assume you have the most basic fundamentals down. Like stance, grip, ball position etc. Now, first and foremost, get everything you have learned out of your skull, I mean everything. Your only thought will be to swing the club back using your lead shoulder and the TOP portion of you trail arm in unison. Now, when I say the top of the trail arm, not the shoulder, but the area well above the forearm. Blank out everything else, just turn using your lead shoulder and the top portion of your train arm in unison. Keep the body quiet. You now have a great backswing, and on plane. Go look in the mirror, you are on the road to a great single plane swing. Now for the downswing, just do the same in reverse. Turn using the top of your trail arm and your lead shoulder. Keep turning though the shot, keep your spine angle intact. You will approach the ball inside out, you should not be over the top. Let the follow through happen naturally, do not force anything.

When using this method, try not to get handsy. Do not rush the backswing, do not rush the downswing. Trust this motion. And when I say turning the two parts in unison, I mean unison.

I guarantee that for some of you that have been struggling, this will be an amazing epiphany. It sounds so simple. cannot believe it myself.  You will no longer be searching and searching and searching and searching, brother does that ever get old.  And you will laugh laugh laugh at the thought of ever paying some snake oil salesman hundreds for lessons.

Hope it helps, appreciate any comments.

God bless and a happy thanksgiving to all

[cardoustie]

Just here to say I love epiphany threads

 

glad it’s working doc

[milesgiles]

i get a similar epiphany roughly every week or two. It soon goes away, but good luck with this one..

[cardoustie]

I’m using the clay Ballard release down vs hold the angle … it works

[parmark]

Sounds a bit familiar to this gem.  I found this one very helpful in my journey....

[Clubhoe]

We all have an individual smoking gun that ties our swing together. 

Mine probably won't be yours, and yours probably won't be mine.

There are 1000s of tips online, and every one of them will work for someone. Just have to find one that works and you believe in. Im glad you found yours.

[cardoustie]

1 hour ago, parmark said:

Sounds a bit familiar to this gem.  I found this one very helpful in my journey....

One of my favourites 

[hammersia]

6 hours ago, cardoustie said:

One of my favourites 

A little precis would be appreciated lol

[tm3]

Dude named Noel Thomas wrote a PDF golf swing book called the Master Key that had this focus on the lead shoulder as its cornerstone.

 

There was a dedicated thread on another golf forum and a number of advocates.

 

It's a little similar to the MDLT focus of making the forward swing using only the arms (shoulder to elbow) that has been incorporated by some modern instructors.

[Three_Jack]

16 hours ago, cardoustie said:

I’m using the clay Ballard release down vs hold the angle … it works

 

Is there a specific video?

[nlk10010]

32 minutes ago, tm3 said:

Dude named Noel Thomas wrote a PDF golf swing book called the Master Key that had this focus on the lead shoulder as its cornerstone.

 

There was a dedicated thread on another golf forum and a number of advocates.

 

It's a little similar to the MDLT focus of making the forward swing using only the arms (shoulder to elbow) that has been incorporated by some modern instructors.

 

Yup, still have the spiral bound manual and the CD, and certainly he's the kind of guy who's easy to mock, but for those of us who are trail-hand dominant and are arm-swingers he's got a good point. I don't know if I'd agree about being the same as MDLT's teachings, which focuses more on both of the (upper) arms, but that's just my take.

[garyt]

1 hour ago, nlk10010 said:

 

Yup, still have the spiral bound manual and the CD, and certainly he's the kind of guy who's easy to mock, but for those of us who are trail-hand dominant and are arm-swingers he's got a good point. I don't know if I'd agree about being the same as MDLT's teachings, which focuses more on both of the (upper) arms, but that's just my take.

The Cd is certainly worthy of being mocked but I tried his method based off the original e-book and I have to say I gained two clubs in distance and it was accurate. Lasted about a month and it slowly slipped away from me and I've never been able to recreate the old success. Hell, I don't know if I was even doing it right but for a few rounds it was magic.

[nlk10010]

10 minutes ago, garyt said:

The Cd is certainly worthy of being mocked but I tried his method based off the original e-book and I have to say I gained two clubs in distance and it was accurate. Lasted about a month and it slowly slipped away from me and I've never been able to recreate the old success. Hell, I don't know if I was even doing it right but for a few rounds it was magic.

I actually reread my post and realized I misstated something:  I don't think he's worthy of being mocked, I don't know him but he seems like a perfectly reasonable guy trying to make a living (or capitalize a bit on a hobby). What I wanted to say was that there are going to be those who find him an easy target for no reason other than how he looks, or speaks, or because of his homemade materials, and that is unfortunate.

 

As to your experience, I've observed this kind of thing consistently (with me, at least). Try a new method, or one that you've put aside for awhile, and initially it seems to work. Keep trying it and it does indeed "slowly slip away". Why? Who knows, perhaps it's because we keep trying to improve it ("better is the enemy of good") or we experience a rough patch of a few swings and assume those only occur with a method we shouldn't be using. So we abandon it and move on. But every once in a while, even when trying a different method, I remember the lead shoulder and it helps get my weight forward a bit.

Edited November 26, 2021 by nlk10010

[TheDeanAbides]

Three posts. Unvalidated. This is a sales pitch.

[Tanner25]

Have tried Noel's swing. Maybe, that's why I've had two frozen shoulders after it. 

[cardoustie]

3 hours ago, Three_Jack said:

 

Is there a specific video?

 

[Bigputter2021]

18 hours ago, parmark said:

Sounds a bit familiar to this gem.  I found this one very helpful in my journey....

I have this book too.   I like it in its simplicity, but the tip I provide takes it to the next level.  It is so simple, no book is needed.  Forget about right side or left side, you need both sides.  I will say again, take the club back with the lead shoulder, and the top part of the trail arm IN UNISON.  That is all you have to think about.  Look in a mirror, if you did  this right and did not let one side control the other, you will look great at the top.

 

[kooch1221]

That Carl Lohren move has been great for me. It helps greatly if you have a tendency to pull the club too inside on the takeaway. 

[jordan2240]

Best golf tip I ever got, "take up bowling."

[cardoustie]

Edit 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by cardoustie
Wrong thread

[garyt]

On 11/26/2021 at 11:43 AM, nlk10010 said:

I actually reread my post and realized I misstated something:  I don't think he's worthy of being mocked, I don't know him but he seems like a perfectly reasonable guy trying to make a living (or capitalize a bit on a hobby). What I wanted to say was that there are going to be those who find him an easy target for no reason other than how he looks, or speaks, or because of his homemade materials, and that is unfortunate.

 

As to your experience, I've observed this kind of thing consistently (with me, at least). Try a new method, or one that you've put aside for awhile, and initially it seems to work. Keep trying it and it does indeed "slowly slip away". Why? Who knows, perhaps it's because we keep trying to improve it ("better is the enemy of good") or we experience a rough patch of a few swings and assume those only occur with a method we shouldn't be using. So we abandon it and move on. But every once in a while, even when trying a different method, I remember the lead shoulder and it helps get my weight forward a bit.

Well, if you're selling a CD then your  at risk of criticism. And that CD was about as amateurish as it gets. A guy hitting plastic balls in his yard. He mishits a couple and blames it on not warming up. Really? You're making a video for sale, warm up first!  And if you make a few bad swings, start over, the advantage of video. Not knocking the guy's looks or anything but that thing was thoroughly unprofessional, again if you're selling it. If you're posting it here for free it was fine. 

   But that's beyond the point of does it work or not. And it did for me, for while.

[NoTalentLefty]

On 11/26/2021 at 2:28 PM, kooch1221 said:

That Carl Lohren move has been great for me. It helps greatly if you have a tendency to pull the club too inside on the takeaway. 

Took lohren  right shoulder start the swing to the course .  I’m a lefty. It will need some work but on the front I drove well and hit 5 greens and fringe area on 2 more. Back wasn’t so productive. Lost my way on a few holes on the back. Golf is over for me until Spring. Will continue working on it until then. Thanks for bring up Carl Lohren as well as the others. Never heard of him until very recently.