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How do you all go about maintaining your tempo? I find that I go in spurts between having a “steady” tempo and one that is really quick.
 

When my tempo is steady I hit the ball really well, but then I have a tendency to start swinging harder and faster thinking I can hit it better or a little farther. Sometimes the harder swing pans out but normally it does not. Unfortunately, I will get in a rut and keep swinging harder and faster trying to “get my swing/round” back on track. When I do that it’s all over for me.

 

So yeah. Do you all have any tips or tricks for maintaining your tempo, or for getting your tempo back before it’s lost for the rest of the round?

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Repetition in practice is the answer.  And then when you notice you’re swinging hard. Stop.  Pull MORE club and smooth it. Concentrate on contact.  At least that’s my thought.  
 

 I find when measured my tempo doesn’t change much though.  i use a garmin g80 to practice and 99.999 % of my swings are 2.9-3.1 with a majority at 3.0 , doesn’t matter the club. I attribute that to the first part. Repetition. You have to make swings.  A-lot of swings.  
 

 

 

edit - meant to say more. Less as in lower number. But more club.  

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By eliminating the thought of tempo and focusing on rhythm.

 

Great players don’t have slow smooth tempo.  They have fast tempo and smooth rhythm.  When people slow their backswings down, they can’t help but get fast in transition, which is what’s important.

 

EVERY golfer who has come to my lesson tee complaining of fast or uneven tempo, has a deathly slow backswing that is still getting to the top when Ernie Els, Fred Couples and even Hideki are in their finish.

 

Test yourself in a side by side with Ernie and you will likely  find a slow backswing is the culprit.

 

Smooth rhythm, not slow tempo.

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3 hours ago, KD1 said:

My idiot friend wants to know if y'all could define rhythm and tempo.

My understanding, tell your friend that:

 

Tempo is the pace of your swing... how fast or slow it is... 

Rhythm is the sequencing of the moves in your swing... no good player has bad rhythm...

 

You practice to smooth out your rhythm at a slow tempo...  but you can't expect to have 115 CHS with a slow tempo

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11 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

By eliminating the thought of tempo and focusing on rhythm.

 

Great players don’t have slow smooth tempo.  They have fast tempo and smooth rhythm.  When people slow their backswings down, they can’t help but get fast in transition, which is what’s important.

 

EVERY golfer who has come to my lesson tee complaining of fast or uneven tempo, has a deathly slow backswing that is still getting to the top when Ernie Els, Fred Couples and even Hideki are in their finish.

 

Test yourself in a side by side with Ernie and you will likely  find a slow backswing is the culprit.

 

Smooth rhythm, not slow tempo.

 

Not my thread but this may end up being the best thing I've ever read on this site. I have a nice swing but struggle with consistent timing, and realized after reading this and watching swing videos that my backswing is anywhere from 1.5-2.3 seconds long (note the inconsistency as well as total time) 


Even Ernie Els is already done with his swing by the time I get to the top.

 

Rory is practically finished with his club twirl before I even set my wrists. There's definitely something here excited to work with it.

 

Thanks Monte!

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12 hours ago, rooski said:

 

Not my thread but this may end up being the best thing I've ever read on this site. I have a nice swing but struggle with consistent timing, and realized after reading this and watching swing videos that my backswing is anywhere from 1.5-2.3 seconds long (note the inconsistency as well as total time) 


Even Ernie Els is already done with his swing by the time I get to the top.

 

Rory is practically finished with his club twirl before I even set my wrists. There's definitely something here excited to work with it.

 

Thanks Monte!

Not my thread either - and definitely a golden nugget by Monte (once again)... it's an eye opener when you see the pros tempo (even those that seem slow like Morikawa and Im for example)... just make sure that you don't ruin your rhythm (and being a 2.2, you surely have a good one already grooved in) when chasing a faster tempo - happens often to guys trying to add CHS; ruining their sequence especially in transition... incremental improvments, keeping your good rhythm while grooving in a faster tempo... my 2 cents

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On 12/9/2021 at 3:49 AM, bladehunter said:

Repetition in practice is the answer.  And then when you notice you’re swinging hard. Stop.  Pull less club and smooth it. Concentrate on contact.  At least that’s my thought.  
 

 I find when measured my tempo doesn’t change much though.  i use a garmin g80 to practice and 99.999 % of my swings are 2.9-3.1 with a majority at 3.0 , doesn’t matter the club. I attribute that to the first part. Repetition. You have to make swings.  A-lot of swings.  

I don't always have the problem in practice, but it is very common out on the course (maybe I should practice more out on the course...). Curious why you say pull less club. Wouldn't more club, 6i vice a 7i, 3/4 swing, be a better choice for thinking smooth it? But I can see that being a good way to essentially force oneself to bring their swing back.

 

21 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

By eliminating the thought of tempo and focusing on rhythm.

 

Great players don’t have slow smooth tempo.  They have fast tempo and smooth rhythm.  When people slow their backswings down, they can’t help but get fast in transition, which is what’s important.

 

EVERY golfer who has come to my lesson tee complaining of fast or uneven tempo, has a deathly slow backswing that is still getting to the top when Ernie Els, Fred Couples and even Hideki are in their finish.

 

Test yourself in a side by side with Ernie and you will likely  find a slow backswing is the culprit.

 

Smooth rhythm, not slow tempo.

I have NEVER even thought about the backswing causing or compounding the problem. Definitely something I'll have to keep in the golf bag to remember, and try to focus on when this inevitably arises.

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Just now, WestCoastGolf said:

I don't always have the problem in practice, but it is very common out on the course (maybe I should practice more out on the course...). Curious why you say pull less club. Wouldn't more club, 6i vice a 7i, 3/4 swing, be a better choice for thinking smooth it? But I can see that being a good way to essentially force oneself to bring their swing back.

 

I have NEVER even thought about the backswing causing or compounding the problem. Definitely something I'll have to keep in the golf bag to remember, and try to focus on when this inevitably arises.

Yep.  It’s actually a typo. I meant more. But my brain is often backwards.  😂
 

 

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On 12/9/2021 at 11:45 AM, MonteScheinblum said:

 

EVERY golfer who has come to my lesson tee complaining of fast or uneven tempo, has a deathly slow backswing that is still getting to the top when Ernie Els, Fred Couples and even Hideki are in their finish.

 

To add to this, I'd say speeding up your backswing and not yanking down from the top will help "mask" a lot of flaws.  I have plenty of flaws in my swing and have to focus on rhythm when things are out of sync.  Think of it this way, when you feel things are going too fast, it's probably a s*** show in the transition, not your backswing being too fast.  

 

Tips that have worked for me (doesn't mean they will for you):

-Speeding up backswing, "slowing down" downswing.  What is actually happening is a faster backswing and a better transition.  The "slowing down" happens at transition, I'm not decelerating into impact.  If anything it allows me to more effectively accelerate later in the downswing. 

 

-Tell myself "quiet" my body in the downswing.  The body is still doing plenty, but the rear hip isn't popping out as quickly, give me more time to get my arms down. 

 

-Feel as if I have a "one to one" ratio on backswing and downswing.  That isn't what happens, but it's a thought that's worked for me. 
 

Jim Hardy always says that Two Plane swingers need "timing, tempo, rhythm and balance".  I'd say everybody a little bit of all of them. 

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6 hours ago, MtlJayMan said:

Not my thread either - and definitely a golden nugget by Monte (once again)... it's an eye opener when you see the pros tempo (even those that seem slow like Morikawa and Im for example)... just make sure that you don't ruin your rhythm (and being a 2.2, you surely have a good one already grooved in) when chasing a faster tempo - happens often to guys trying to add CHS; ruining their sequence especially in transition... incremental improvments, keeping your good rhythm while grooving in a faster tempo... my 2 cents

 

Yeah I think there's a lot of validity to what you say.

 

I know for sure after looking into this thought that I definitely need to do something about this through this off season if I want to go from a 2 to a tournament winning amateur.

 

I'm willing to break a couple eggs to make an omelette in this offseason I've gotta rework a few different things

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