Adaptor sleeve changes / ball speed on trackman question

[pghgolfer]

Hey all. I am currently tinkering with my Ping G410 plus 10.5 / Fujikura NX 60x driver on a Trackman 4. Standard weight in neutral setting. I’m looking to optimize carry (wet in PA) and dispersion. I’m noticing that the clubhead speed is drastically different (3-4 mph) between the different hosel settings, at least in trackman‘s opinion, on fairly similar swings (averaged). I will post a full spread of numbers tomorrow.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

[Stuart_G]

It just likely means you're sensitive to the face angle for some reason.   As the settings changed, did you see any change in patterns in left/right ball flight?

[pghgolfer]

36 minutes ago, Stuart_G said:

It just likely means you're sensitive to the face angle for some reason.   As the settings changed, did you see any change in patterns in left/right ball flight?

Yes, I’m between 3 settings. I hit a low-ish draw with my old driver (9 degree mavrik subzero), and am looking for higher launch and less “shape”. Currently between 10.5 neutral, 10.5 x 3 flat, and 10.5 +1 degree (11.5) and flat. The flat settings increase ball speed. 
 

1) 10.5 neutral is a nice high flight (for me), but retains a fairly decent draw. I can get it to start right of target and come back, so this is ok.

 

2) 10.5 flat is highest ball speed. Starts more right, and comes back sometimes (less shape than neutral), but miss is a block

 

3) 11.5 flat had the best shape (less curve, and a right start line). I may end up in this setting.

 

Ideally I could find a setting that is 10.5 degrees, but not quite 3 degrees flat. So a mix of 2 and 3.

 

any thoughts?

[Howard_Jones]

4 hours ago, pghgolfer said:

Yes, I’m between 3 settings. I hit a low-ish draw with my old driver (9 degree mavrik subzero), and am looking for higher launch and less “shape”. Currently between 10.5 neutral, 10.5 x 3 flat, and 10.5 +1 degree (11.5) and flat. The flat settings increase ball speed. 
 

1) 10.5 neutral is a nice high flight (for me), but retains a fairly decent draw. I can get it to start right of target and come back, so this is ok.

 

2) 10.5 flat is highest ball speed. Starts more right, and comes back sometimes (less shape than neutral), but miss is a block

 

3) 11.5 flat had the best shape (less curve, and a right start line). I may end up in this setting.

 

Ideally I could find a setting that is 10.5 degrees, but not quite 3 degrees flat. So a mix of 2 and 3.

 

any thoughts?

Club speed.
- Trackman is behind the club head, and tries to find the geometrical center of the face seen from behind, If you change path and face angle during the lowest 1/3 of the swing (depending on hosel settings), "the shape of the head" seen from the LM changes and moves the calculated geometrical center. You will have to look on path and face angle differences to explain it.

Ball speed
- Thats a question of impact position vs the heads COG, so if FLAT moved impact toe side, it can explain more ball speed and probably lower spin.

Look at impact position and if it moves with hosel setting
- As a rule of thumb, we can use 1/8" up = 240 rpm drop in spin and 0.35* UP in launch and opposite