New Ping driver

[4TheKing614]

32 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

I heard the same Feb pre order....late March ship

 

But, somewhere on Instagram I read this is being pushed back - until they are caught up. 

 

 

Crazy to me. Every company got hit. These guys got seemingly rocked. I was going to look at some ping clubs. Not worth it at this point. 

[Strategery]

I see so few new Ping drivers on the course compared to TM and Titleist. Seems Ping really dropped the ball last year.

[TheGolfingRealtor]

3 hours ago, MR. MP67 said:

I was told March ship date for the I525's.  Was my guy lost or just blowing smoke? Thanks

I’ve talked to two reputable dealers and both said the same thing… nothing in the near future. PING could pull a fast one and release something out of the blue but right now it’s the fall. 

[karstens_ghost]

The next "woods" will be announced in mid-January 2023.

[Bad9]

On 1/6/2022 at 6:38 PM, ^m9 said:

Considering their engineering experience and focus, I'd love to see their take on a carbon crown and sole.

 

If they ever go down this route, you know they'll optimize the $hit out of it and make it a monster.

 

Would most likely improve sound from their G425 too.

 

Didn't they do the carbon crown with the Rapture line?

[Morry]

Ping drivers are more than well known to be Heavy.....hence why almost all fits end up in counterbalanced shafts to help the swingweight

 

If you want or need a medium to heavy toe or heel weight....sorry...this driver doesn't work for you.....

 

Lighten it up already - enough 

 

 

[denkea]

40 minutes ago, Morry said:

hence why almost all fits end up in counterbalanced shafts to help the swingweight

The reason Ping went to counter balanced shafts is because they were the first one to make 45.75" their standard length.  The length is the reason for counter balanced shafts.  Not the head weight.

[Morry]

47 minutes ago, denkea said:

The reason Ping went to counter balanced shafts is because they were the first one to make 45.75" their standard length.  The length is the reason for counter balanced shafts.  Not the head weight.

I disagree 

every fitter knows the heads are heavy

they even discuss how it demands counterbalanced and frankly holds back swing speed as well 

 

[denkea]

23 hours ago, Morry said:

frankly holds back swing speed as well 

Well, that's a new one.  Would be hard pressed to believe that Ping, in all their testing, would settle on  anything that would impede swing speed.  

[Morry]

35 minutes ago, denkea said:

Well, that's a new one.  Would be hard pressed to believe that Ping, in all their testing, would settle on  anything that would impede swing speed.  

Laughing - yes, agreed - it Sure is - someone should let them know lol, cause it is true unless you counter-balance it big and drop the moveable weight to lose the benefit of said weight

 

I just think they pushed it a little too much in their pursuit of stability and went a touch too far 

 

I would definitely bet they lighten the next head up a bit 

 

 

[Ghostwedge]

Quite the rant on SW you got going there. I know a few guys who bag the G series drivers (G400-425) and they don't have a problem getting max distance.

The new Taylormade drivers are D4\5  I doubt they will blink at any talk of they're to heavy. Ping won't either with their next lineup. jmo

[TheGolfingRealtor]

On 1/9/2022 at 7:22 AM, Morry said:

Ping drivers are more than well known to be Heavy.....hence why almost all fits end up in counterbalanced shafts to help the swingweight

 

If you want or need a medium to heavy toe or heel weight....sorry...this driver doesn't work for you.....

 

Lighten it up already - enough 

 

 

What are you talking about? They make plenty of options for weights. I've reshafted with a bunch of different shafts and have never had an issue with overall weight or swing weight.

[TheGolfingRealtor]

4 minutes ago, Ghostwedge said:

Quite the rant on SW you got going there. I know a few guys who bag the G series drivers (G400-425) and they don't have a problem getting max distance.

The new Taylormade drivers are D4\5  I doubt they will blink at any talk of they're to heavy. Ping won't either with their next lineup. jmo

That's if you get lucky enough to get one that is D4/D5. I've had a few TM drivers that were D8/D9 which is nice because you can trim the final length to what you want.

[Bad9]

19 minutes ago, TheGolfingRealtor said:

What are you talking about? They make plenty of options for weights. I've reshafted with a bunch of different shafts and have never had an issue with overall weight or swing weight.

 

+1. My G410 weighs 183g without any weights and cam stock with a 12g in it for a 195g total. The 10.5 I had was 188g with no weight and had a 14g stock weight for a total of 202g. Neither of which are particularly heavy for a driver head.

[^m9]

On 1/9/2022 at 3:10 AM, Bad9 said:

 

Didn't they do the carbon crown with the Rapture line?

Correct. I believe that was the first and last carbon crown driver from them. Too bad, because it looked great and performed for the time.

[hammergolf]

On 1/9/2022 at 5:10 AM, Bad9 said:

 

Didn't they do the carbon crown with the Rapture line?

Yes they had a Carbon crown on the Rapture driver in 2006….

[ProStryker]

I loved the sound and feel of the Rapture. It was a nice club

[denkea]

23 hours ago, Morry said:

Laughing - yes, agreed - it Sure is

But it's not true.  Not necessarily anyway.  It really depends on the golfer whether back weighting will or will not benefit them.   

 

[philly2kuk]

Rick Shiels podcast said their source confirmed no new ping driver until 2023. Price is going up £20, but I’m not surprised. I work in the product industry and the price of everything has gone up with long delivery times.

[erock9174]

On 1/10/2022 at 11:41 AM, Bad9 said:

 

+1. My G410 weighs 183g without any weights and cam stock with a 12g in it for a 195g total. The 10.5 I had was 188g with no weight and had a 14g stock weight for a total of 202g. Neither of which are particularly heavy for a driver head.

All 3 g425 max heads I’ve weighed were 204g without the adapter. With adapter you’re looking around 211g total which is about 10g heavier than the norm for most oems. TM and Cally drivers with their adapters usually come in around 200-201g total FWIW. 
I kinda like it because I usually play my drivers at 45” or 45.25” to end of grip which ends up being around d2/d3 with that head weight. 

[mbl32465]

Ping driver heads are definitely heavier than other companies. Had a stock G410 LST head that I put a Tensei White shaft on. Played at 45” the swingweight was D8. 

[Morry]

2 minutes ago, mbl32465 said:

Ping driver heads are definitely heavier than other companies. Had a stock G410 LST head that I put a Tensei White shaft on. Played at 45” the swingweight was D8. 

THANK YOU

[Morry]

15 hours ago, erock9174 said:

All 3 g425 max heads I’ve weighed were 204g without the adapter. With adapter you’re looking around 211g total which is about 10g heavier than the norm for most oems. TM and Cally drivers with their adapters usually come in around 200-201g total FWIW. 
I kinda like it because I usually play my drivers at 45” or 45.25” to end of grip which ends up being around d2/d3 with that head weight. 

THANK YOU

[Vlade15]

Played a g410lst head for two seasons that weight in at 204g with stock weight and adapter.  Was not any heavier than the current Tsi3 head that I play.  Sorry.

[J_Tizzle]

Yeah I love the Ping clubheads and the external weights that are easy to adjust.  My SIM2 came in at a C8 swingweight so it was covered in lead tape to get it to a reasonable weight.  I've ordered several G425 weights to keep around pending shaft/grip changes to keep the swingweight where I like it.  

[wobgon]

58 minutes ago, Morry said:

THANK YOU

Hmmmm....Capital letters no less.   

[wobgon]

If two brands of driver heads do not weigh the same, it becomes a matter of opinion as to whether one is to heavy or one is to light.

[pgatw]

The 425 driver has available weights from 14 to 32 grams in 3 gram intervals. Should not be too difficult to hit a target weight for most lengths, shafts and grips. Pretty handy it seems.

[erock9174]

2 hours ago, pgatw said:

The 425 driver has available weights from 14 to 32 grams in 3 gram intervals. Should not be too difficult to hit a target weight for most lengths, shafts and grips. Pretty handy it seems.

Very true. I know TXG said they typically go with a lighter than stock weight on the 425  to keep the swing weight reasonable especially with heavier shafts. 
 

if anyone cares. I started a thread on THP forums a while back. If you do a google search on “THP what driver heads weigh” it should be the first result. About 3 pages worth of me and other guys posting pics of driver heads and how much they weigh. 
 

keep in mind that adapters usually range from 6-7g (ping, TM, Cobra, pxg) to 9-10g for Cally and Titleist adapters. 

[ALEagle]

On 1/8/2022 at 1:46 PM, TheGolfingRealtor said:

The driver slider weights range from 14 grams to 35 grams with standard being 26 grams in the MAX, 17 grams in the LST and 23 grams in the SFT.

Only person in this recent dialogue who actually has FACTUAL information!