8000 RPM Driver Spin

[kozubs]

I finally got to a simulator yesterday.  Haven't swung a hit a ball since early October.  I've been working on getting my speed up with a PRGR and irons. Yesterday I found a simulator place that was open and not locked down.  It was a full swing simulator.  Great setup but my spin numbers were off the chart.  Swinging about 111, 14 degree launch and spin 7000-8000 rpm.  235ish carry which seems right with that crazy spin.  

 

Driver Cobra LTD set at 9 degree with a Proforce V2.  I have always spung my driver a fair amount but 7-8000 seems insane.  Is that even possible or was the calibration likely off?  I should also mention that every shot was draw to a hook.  

 

  Unfortunately I wasn't getting any club info like strike location or AOA.  I started teeing the ball really low (entirely below the head) which brought the spin down to the 3000 range but launch was only about 9 degrees so I lofted up to 10.5 getting the launch up to 13 or so with the spin staying around 3000 and the carry increased to about 275.  Not sure why at 9 degrees with a higher tee the spin was so high.  Hdcp was at 4 before winter hit.

 

I have a few more months before I can get outside again (just got 2ft of snow last night) and I want to know if it worth even working on my swing here or not?  

 

My home course just set up trackman simulators for the winter but just as they were about to open we locked down again.  Grrrrr.

[hammersia]

Gonna need a video of this swing 

[EDT501]

Seems like a simulator / launch monitor error to me... I don't see how you could even generate that much spin with a driver, no matter the strike dynamics. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

What does your distance and ball flight look like on the course? I realize you're in winter right now, but I can't imagine you're getting 235 carry with 111 CHS on the course. 

 

[Cwebb]

If this is real, I want to see you hit this kind of drive with a stiff breeze in your face 😲

[GungHoGolf]

7-8K spin with driver is a misread - simply not possible. 

 

Full Swing sims don’t have a great rep for accuracy. 

[teehilden]

No chance the spin is that high at 111. Something was wrong with the simulator.

[LaterOn61]

Find a GCQuad as I would trust it much more.

[MattyO1984]

Must be annoying backing tee shots up when they land in the fairway?!

 

In all seriousness, something must be amiss with those numbers. Just cannot see how it would be possible.

[kozubs]

Thanks for the comments guys.  8000 rpm I can put my lob wedge away To! 

 

To answer an earlier question I consistently carry about 265 270 on a good strike.  I'll occasionally creep up to 280.  

 

I'll likely just use this place for fun and leave the tinkering for once we leave lockdown and I can get on the trackman at my home course.  

[Haroputt]

One of the most remarkable things I seen was at a PGA tour event in 2000.  I was standing with large gallery at a long par 5 watching the landing of the players drives  This was era of the sub 400cc driver and the average drive was 270 yard at that time.  Watch group after group land at the 260-270 mark and ball kick ahead about 5-10 yards forward 

Then there very different looking bomb with much higher trajectory Ball lands 300 yard mark and spins backwards few yards!  The whole gallery gasped and wonders who the bomber was.    Turns out to be Tiger Woods.  

Edited January 19, 2022 by Haroputt

[Zitlow]

56 minutes ago, Haroputt said:

One of the most remarkable things I seen was at a PGA tour event in 2000.  I was standing with large gallery at a long par 5 watching the landing of the players drives  This was era of the sub 400cc driver and the average drive was 270 yard at that time.  Watch group after group land at the 260-270 mark and ball kick ahead about 5-10 yards forward 

Then there very different looking bomb with much higher trajectory Ball lands 300 yard mark and spins backwards few yards!  The whole gallery gasped and wonders who the bomber was.    Turns out to be Tiger Woods.  

 

I got to play golf with Mike Dunaway. Cart paths only, his drives would either plug or would be a a yard or two behind where they landed. 

[riddyl]

I've had 8k spin on my driver before. Of course, I did also get a nice big sky mark on the crown...

[kozubs]

Thanks for all the help guys.  We had Taylormade in at our course and i was able to do a stealth fitting on a trackman.  Warmed up with my driver expecting high spin and was getting numbers about 1600 with 6 degrees AOA!  Stopped trying to lower my spin and was just swinging normally and settled in around 2500 to 3000.  Guess that's a warning to be careful and not to mess with your swing when something seems off.  

 

Side note, the new Stealth is nice. somewhat weird results.  Swing speed was up about 4mph with the RDX smoke 70g, smash was down, Ball speed was up 5mph but carry was up about 15-20 yards to 280. Bad hits just seemed to pop and curver back to center.  I was hitting everything the equator so if I could get it dialed it could be great.  I'll have to wait till spring though when i have actually been swinging a club  

[BB28403]

Go for the green with that Pro Level Wedge type Spin !  Ball would stick like a nerf dart! 🎯 

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

On 1/22/2022 at 9:49 PM, kozubs said:

Stopped trying to lower my spin and was just swinging normally and settled in around 2500 to 3000. 

How did you do that, genuine question? I wish I could deliberately lower driver spin…

[GungHoGolf]

1 hour ago, LukeDonaldsTiger said:

How did you do that, genuine question? I wish I could deliberately lower driver spin…

Ways to lower spin:

 

1. Use a lower-lofted driver (or adjust yours down if possible) and hit more up on the ball to maintain a good launch angle. 

 

2. Make good contact slightly towards toe and above center. Strikes below center and towards the heel will spin much more. 

 

3. Use an in-to-out swing path and hit a draw - they spin less than fades. 

 

4. Use a lower-spin ball like AVX or Taylormade Tour Response. 

 

5. Last resort: get fitted for a lower spin shaft and/or head. 

[kozubs]

I was playing the ball a little farther forward to make sure I got my AOA up and try to hit it above the equator.  Obviously the different sim made all the difference.

 

Follow up, I was back to the original sim yesterday with the wife.  The numbers made much more sense. It must have lost its calibration the first time.

[dodint]

Found this thread after a frustrating evening of indoor league play tonight. Swing speed is around 105. I kept ballooning drives with 8800rpm of spin. They would go straight but only about 150 yards and they had a trajectory as if they had fallen from space.

I'll chalk it up to bad reading and not change my swing quite yet. That one booth has trouble capturing club head metrics so it's possible it was trying to calculate the spin another way and gave wonky numbers.