On the putting green, a ball hits a twig that blew in

[Mr. Bean]

32 minutes ago, oikos1 said:

 

Lol.  Of course.  So that's why the ruling bodies are always changing rules. 

 

Isn't it the same with legislation? If everything was perfect nothing had to be changed.

[rogolf]

1 hour ago, Golferpaul said:

How about when a seagull picks up your ball and drops it in the lake.....just bad luck?

In that instance, the ball was not in motion.

[Jace_bkr]

4 hours ago, rogolf said:

I don't think there should be any "do overs" for a ball stopped or deflected when played from the putting green, except for another ball in motion or a player.  A putting green is not a perfect place - bad luck can occur there just on other parts of the course.

 

Few months ago, during a money game we had a small yorkie Dog from a neighboring home wandering around near the green on our 3rd hole.

 

Several attempts to scare it home were unsuccessful & it always wound up right back beside the green.

 

After deciding to just ignore it & continue play my buddies 15-foot birdie attempt is intercepted by said dog & it runs straight home with his $5 ProV1 🤣.

 

You don't think he should have been aloud another stroke?   

[Golferpaul]

2 hours ago, rogolf said:

In that instance, the ball was not in motion.

It could very easily be in motion.  

[oikos1]

4 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

Isn't it the same with legislation? If everything was perfect nothing had to be changed.

I don't believe "perfect" was ever in play.  However, I do find it interesting that when rules are debated/challenged in these forums, often the initiator is labeled a "rules is stupid" person when in fact, rules are debated and changed in golf all of the time. 

[rogolf]

54 minutes ago, oikos1 said:

I don't believe "perfect" was ever in play.  However, I do find it interesting that when rules are debated/challenged in these forums, often the initiator is labeled a "rules is stupid" person when in fact, rules are debated and changed in golf all of the time. 

None of the debate here has any effect on changes to the Rules. 🥱

[rogolf]

6 hours ago, Jace_bkr said:

 

Few months ago, during a money game we had a small yorkie Dog from a neighboring home wandering around near the green on our 3rd hole.

 

Several attempts to scare it home were unsuccessful & it always wound up right back beside the green.

 

After deciding to just ignore it & continue play my buddies 15-foot birdie attempt is intercepted by said dog & it runs straight home with his $5 ProV1 🤣.

 

You don't think he should have been aloud another stroke?   

Just eliminate the Exception that applies to a ball played from the the putting green.  Use the Rule for the rest of the course.  The player takes relief by placing a ball right under where the ball first was stopped by the animal.  If the ball was merely deflected, play it from where it came to rest.

Edited January 25, 2022 by rogolf

[oikos1]

18 hours ago, rogolf said:

None of the debate here has any effect on changes to the Rules. 🥱

Lol.  You might be right.  The ruling bodies don't like to leave their ivory tower very often, do they.  Or do they?

 

Overview-of-the-Rules-Modernisation-Initiative-Goals-Proposed-Changes-and-Process-for-Implementation-in-2019.pdf

 

A few highlights:

 

"Given the unusual scope of this initiative, we want golfers and others in the golf community to
have a chance to give us their feedback. We encourage you to review the proposed changes, to
try them out on the course over the next few months, and to let us know your thoughts. We
will consider all input..."

 

b. Why We are Pursuing a Major Revision Now

"We have heard various concerns about the Rules, falling into two main categories:"

(1) The Rules are Complicated and Their Purpose isn’t Always Clear.

(2) The Rules Have Limited Relevance to Many Typical Golfers.

 

Upon review, perhaps it's "rules guys" that don't like to come down from their ivory tower.  🤣🤣

 

[Mr. Bean]

It continues to astonish me that those who understand the least give most criticism. It is like evaluating the taste of food without having tasted it.

[rogolf]

1 hour ago, oikos1 said:

Lol.  You might be right.  The ruling bodies don't like to leave their ivory tower very often, do they.  Or do they?

 

Overview-of-the-Rules-Modernisation-Initiative-Goals-Proposed-Changes-and-Process-for-Implementation-in-2019.pdf

 

A few highlights:

 

"Given the unusual scope of this initiative, we want golfers and others in the golf community to
have a chance to give us their feedback. We encourage you to review the proposed changes, to
try them out on the course over the next few months, and to let us know your thoughts. We
will consider all input..."

 

b. Why We are Pursuing a Major Revision Now

"We have heard various concerns about the Rules, falling into two main categories:"

(1) The Rules are Complicated and Their Purpose isn’t Always Clear.

(2) The Rules Have Limited Relevance to Many Typical Golfers.

 

Upon review, perhaps it's "rules guys" that don't like to come down from their ivory tower.  🤣🤣

 

try them out on the course over the next few months, and to let us know your thoughts. We
will consider all input..."

Just wondering how many of your thoughts you have provided to them (rather than just posting here)?

Edited January 25, 2022 by rogolf

[oikos1]

5 hours ago, rogolf said:

try them out on the course over the next few months, and to let us know your thoughts. We
will consider all input..."

Just wondering how many of your thoughts you have provided to them (rather than just posting here)?

That's not the point now is it.  But you know that.  Maybe next you'll ask how good of a golfer I am.

 

 

[oikos1]

5 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

It continues to astonish me that those who understand the least give most criticism. It is like evaluating the taste of food without having tasted it.

It continues to astonish me that such "wise" individuals completely fail at endless opportunities to be ambassadors of the game.  But hey, it's the rules forum so it's to be expected.

 

 

 

 

[rogolf]

1 hour ago, oikos1 said:

That's not the point now is it.  But you know that.  Maybe next you'll ask how good of a golfer I am.

 

 

What has that got to do with anything being discussed here?

[oikos1]

On 1/25/2022 at 11:10 PM, rogolf said:

What has that got to do with anything being discussed here?

You're halfway there...