Taylormade 2022 mb/mc replacement?

[Morry]

On 7/30/2022 at 9:35 PM, capifico22 said:

Sounds like no 760, but maybe the MC and 770 will blend nicely?

Terrible news.........unless the MC "is" a 760 in disguise.....last one was nowhere near 

 

this is a real miss if just MC and the mini-shovel 770 

ugh

 

 

[Rambada]

Would love to try the JPX 923 tour and this P7MC replacement for my next fitting!! 

[Viper4225]

On 5/18/2022 at 10:22 AM, BCC1898 said:

TM always seems to have a HUGE performance gap between their "player's tech" lines and CB.  Kind of wish they'd merge them.

 

agree. i wouldn't merge them, but have another iron that slots between the p7mc and p770.

 

 

[mngolfer7]

The custom shop on Taylormade’s website is down for maintenance until August 22nd. Could this be to update the site for pre orders?

[EricWGolf]

47 minutes ago, mngolfer7 said:

The custom shop on Taylormade’s website is down for maintenance until August 22nd. Could this be to update the site for pre orders?

Negative. IT migration. Should be back up Monday sometime. 

[mngolfer7]

1 hour ago, EricWGolf said:

Negative. IT migration. Should be back up Monday sometime. 

I figured, just was feeling optimistic 😅

[mister2cool]

Bring back the RAC MB Smoky!!!

[rebby]

On 7/30/2022 at 12:00 PM, Shaqlemore said:

talked to a TM Rep today. new P7mb/MCs and 770s coming along with the new woods in 23. announcement late sept/october

I was told the same thing from someone in the know. Being an MB guy, our focus went on that line. Supposed to be more similar to the 2020 MB than the 730 (which was a disappointment for me). Little “bump” on the back of the iron is supposedly more central than the current MB. Softer sole than the 730 with more camber too. Lots of wins if you ask me but what I really want is a milled grind 730 with a sole that emulates the 46’ MG3. 

 

New MC and 770 are more of an evolution on the 2020s as well. A little weight likely shifting around to bring the CG more central. Like I said earlier, we didn’t discuss these as much. The MC is expected to blend very seamlessly into to MB which would be a nice win (especially if the offset matches up better with the MB). 

[Morry]

18 hours ago, rebby said:

I was told the same thing from someone in the know. Being an MB guy, our focus went on that line. Supposed to be more similar to the 2020 MB than the 730 (which was a disappointment for me). Little “bump” on the back of the iron is supposedly more central than the current MB. Softer sole than the 730 with more camber too. Lots of wins if you ask me but what I really want is a milled grind 730 with a sole that emulates the 46’ MG3. 

 

New MC and 770 are more of an evolution on the 2020s as well. A little weight likely shifting around to bring the CG more central. Like I said earlier, we didn’t discuss these as much. The MC is expected to blend very seamlessly into to MB which would be a nice win (especially if the offset matches up better with the MB). 

 

I HOPE the New MC is more like a re-vamped 760 in disguise 

 

I think there is such a huge gap to the 770 right now, that should be a key goal of this release

 

Looking forward to details 

 

all intel appreciated

 

[Mrvelani]

4 hours ago, Morry said:

 

I HOPE the New MC is more like a re-vamped 760 in disguise 

 

I think there is such a huge gap to the 770 right now, that should be a key goal of this release

 

Looking forward to details 

 

all intel appreciated

 

So what is the gap with the 770? I hear people not liking them but I just went for my fitting and I loved them and I have the i210’s.

 

I love my i210’s but I found 770’s to be more solid and I gained a bit more distance too. Don’t know what to do but would love to hear from people who have the 770’s as to what’s their problems with them after using or having them?

[jacobanderson123]

1 hour ago, Mrvelani said:

So what is the gap with the 770? I hear people not liking them but I just went for my fitting and I loved them and I have the i210’s.

 

I love my i210’s but I found 770’s to be more solid and I gained a bit more distance too. Don’t know what to do but would love to hear from people who have the 770’s as to what’s their problems with them after using or having them?

It’s not a problem with the 770’s, it’s the jump from the MC’s which are quite a small cavity profile to the 770’s which are players distance irons with no in between. Previous irons (specifically 760) have filled the gap perfectly, but now they don’t have a filler between them.

[zap311]

1 hour ago, jacobanderson123 said:

It’s not a problem with the 770’s, it’s the jump from the MC’s which are quite a small cavity profile to the 770’s which are players distance irons with no in between. Previous irons (specifically 760) have filled the gap perfectly, but now they don’t have a filler between them.

There’s so much fan fare for the P760s, but I don’t really get how it’s that much better than a P7MC-770 combo set. I play the MCs and love them, but I can see why someone would want a touch more forgiveness in the mid to long irons with a 770. The only answer I can think of is the desire to have a proper full iron set. Otherwise, I think TaylorMade does offer a solution for those who loved the P760s. That, or save yourself $700 and buy a set of preowned 760s on eBay. 😁 

[craz-e]

On 8/21/2022 at 1:56 PM, mister2cool said:

Bring back the RAC MB Smoky!!!

 

Agreed!

Whilst they are at it also bring back the TP line/logo 

[jacobanderson123]

1 hour ago, zap311 said:

There’s so much fan fare for the P760s, but I don’t really get how it’s that much better than a P7MC-770 combo set. I play the MCs and love them, but I can see why someone would want a touch more forgiveness in the mid to long irons with a 770. The only answer I can think of is the desire to have a proper full iron set. Otherwise, I think TaylorMade does offer a solution for those who loved the P760s. That, or save yourself $700 and buy a set of preowned 760s on eBay. 😁 

The MC’s and the 770’s don’t blend that well. There’s a big jump in loft, offset, and head size between them. Not to mention that the 770’s are hollow heads and much hotter off the face.

[KC4441]

The P750’s and P770’s blended really well.  Hoping for that sort of transition again if they are talking about an upgraded 2017 version.  

[Mrvelani]

9 hours ago, jacobanderson123 said:

It’s not a problem with the 770’s, it’s the jump from the MC’s which are quite a small cavity profile to the 770’s which are players distance irons with no in between. Previous irons (specifically 760) have filled the gap perfectly, but now they don’t have a filler between them.

Got it, thank you that makes sense.  The master fitter I was working with himself was using a combo set of 770-MC and said he loves it.

[zap311]

7 hours ago, jacobanderson123 said:

The MC’s and the 770’s don’t blend that well. There’s a big jump in loft, offset, and head size between them. Not to mention that the 770’s are hollow heads and much hotter off the face.

Can’t argue with the fact that 770s are a bit hotter as I have heard that and know it from previously having 790s. 
 

I just want to clarify the “big” spec differences you mention. Here’s the 7 and 4 iron specs, which seem like fairly small differences in lofts and offset and could also be adjusted with bending. 
 

P7MC 7 iron: 34* / 2.1mm offset

P770 7 iron: 33* / 2.4mm offset

 

P7MC 4 iron: 23* / 2.7mm offset

P770 4 iron: 22.5* / 3.3mm offset

 

Ultimately, I’m not saying TaylorMade shouldn’t come out with an updated P760 model. However, I’m not optimistic it will happen since they already have 5 iron models (MB, MC, 770, 790, Stealth), which I would imagine covers 99% of golfers. I do think it could make sense to soften the hot face on the 770 to make it more controllable for better players, but that may not serve the majority of their customers.  

Edited August 22, 2022 by zap311

[jacobanderson123]

1 hour ago, zap311 said:

Can’t argue with the fact that 770s are a bit hotter as I have heard that and know it from previously having 790s. 
 

I just want to clarify the “big” spec differences you mention. Here’s the 7 and 4 iron specs, which seem like fairly small differences in lofts and offset and could also be adjusted with bending. 
 

P7MC 7 iron: 34* / 2.1mm offset

P770 7 iron: 33* / 2.4mm offset

 

P7MC 4 iron: 23* / 2.7mm offset

P770 4 iron: 22.5* / 3.3mm offset

 

Ultimately, I’m not saying TaylorMade shouldn’t come out with an updated P760 model. However, I’m not optimistic it will happen since they already have 5 iron models (MB, MC, 770, 790, Stealth), which I would imagine covers 99% of golfers. I do think it could make sense to soften the hot face on the 770 to make it more controllable for better players, but that may not serve the majority of their customers.  

Interesting to see that the specs were much closer than I thought. When set down next to each other they seem vastly different. And I believe it's confirmed that the 760 line is done, no update coming.

[FormerBigDaddy]

I think it’s funny that people are clamoring for a new P760 but if I remember correctly they weren’t all that well liked before and it didn’t sell well. Not sure why maybe someone can refresh my memory. I thought I remember that cycle blending well between the 750, 760, 770. Although they all sort of looked alike?

 

After looking at current product offerings I can see why they ditched the 760 before. If you’re a player looking for a solid forged CB you’re probably not looking for something clunky. If you want the look of a players club with more distance/forgiveness you will look at the 770. Even as a blade player I think the 770 looks nice. Not sure a product between the 2 is needed and why it died off. Maybe they’ll bring it back. 
 

If you break it down by handicap and average want/look/feel here’s what maybe their thinking is?
 

0-5 Blades

5-10 Players CB

10-15 770 equivalent 

15-20 790 equivalent

20+ Shovel of the year? 

[kiddoc]

10 hours ago, FormerBigDaddy said:

I think it’s funny that people are clamoring for a new P760 but if I remember correctly they weren’t all that well liked before and it didn’t sell well. Not sure why maybe someone can refresh my memory. I thought I remember that cycle blending well between the 750, 760, 770. Although they all sort of looked alike?

 

After looking at current product offerings I can see why they ditched the 760 before. If you’re a player looking for a solid forged CB you’re probably not looking for something clunky. If you want the look of a players club with more distance/forgiveness you will look at the 770. Even as a blade player I think the 770 looks nice. Not sure a product between the 2 is needed and why it died off. Maybe they’ll bring it back. 
 

If you break it down by handicap and average want/look/feel here’s what maybe their thinking is?
 

0-5 Blades

5-10 Players CB

10-15 770 equivalent 

15-20 790 equivalent

20+ Shovel of the year? 

+1 here….4-6 770……7-P P7MC

 

No need to overthink 

 

[elwhippy]

Need to improve feel. P770s feel empty.

[Mrvelani]

2 hours ago, elwhippy said:

Need to improve feel. P770s feel empty.

They feel plenty fine when hitting the middle. I think people are missing the point, 770 are player irons but with distance. If you want the feel on the entire face just go with MC or MB but you won’t get the forgiveness like the 770.

 

But it’s all subjective. I have i210’s but when I hit the 770 in the middle they felt better than my i210’s.

[MCoz]

I don't have a problem with mixing the 770s 5-8 and the P7 MCs 9-Pw. I also use an M3 4 iron (2* weak). But I have my own Lie and loft machine to set everything where I want it. I have no gaps. Everything is seamless.

[MountainKing]

Shouldn't be any issues mixing the current line and the to be announced line.  I believe TM even has a chart on how to mix them.  If you want a set of 760's, go buy em, they're out there on the used market.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

15 hours ago, Mrvelani said:

They feel plenty fine when hitting the middle. I think people are missing the point, 770 are player irons but with distance. If you want the feel on the entire face just go with MC or MB but you won’t get the forgiveness like the 770.

 

But it’s all subjective. I have i210’s but when I hit the 770 in the middle they felt better than my i210’s.

100% disagree. 

2020 P770 are some of the most clicky irons I’ve ever hit, even with a ProV1, and middled. Even the 790 feel better 

[ronster]

Didn’t the P760s have Speedfoam? I can’t see TM changing out the P7MC from fully forged. 
 

Hopefully the new P770 and P7MC will have the sole grind of P760s…

Edited August 29, 2022 by ronster

[Morry]

10 hours ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

100% disagree. 

2020 P770 are some of the most clicky irons I’ve ever hit, even with a ProV1, and middled. Even the 790 feel better 

well SAID 

could Not agree more 

 

can't wait till they actually come out with a new '760' to fill the enormous hole in their lineup currently 

[hartrick11]

New 770 will have a slimmer topline and the better speed foam air; should feel better and look better especially at address in a combo with MC. The big question in my mind is if/how they update soles. I like my 770/MC combo but the sole interaction differences between the two are substantial. 

[capifico22]

The p760 has pre-worn leading edge, do both the 770 and MC?

The p760 has a set AW, which the MC does not.

[MountainKing]

16 hours ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

100% disagree. 

2020 P770 are some of the most clicky irons I’ve ever hit, even with a ProV1, and middled. Even the 790 feel better 

 

I get some of that when I catch it low, but never got the clicky thing on a solid strike. Coming from forged irons, that was my biggest fear making the jump.  I guess feel is all relative from person to person on this stuff.