2022 JTBC Classic (Mar 24 - 27)

[8602081]

Congrats to Thitikul.

 

Nice comback from behind.

[Rapidcat]

Jeeno was not even on the leaderboard on her front nine:

 

She did great to bring it home - Nanna, Charley et al not so much.

 

[HMHS]

1 hour ago, Argonne69 said:

 

I'd go with Na Rin. 

 

My hands are tied / I started the JLPGAers thread: Hinako! I mean Ayaka 😂🎌 (though I think Na Rin wins earlier using my “eye test/brain” 🤓)

[HMHS]

9 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

Jeeno was not even on the leaderboard on her front nine:

 

She did great to bring it home - Nanna, Charley et al not so much.

 

I kinda knew Hull wouldn’t close it out just bec it’s like a Su “early round in contention gut feel”.  
 

Thought Pajaree stood a chance, along with Jeen of course…

 

wasn’t convinced An had the fortitude to conquer the 18th in round 4…

 

Didn’t expect Nanna to bungle to bogey in regulation in the last hole 😈

default winner: Jeen! 

[Rapidcat]

15 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

Jeeno was not even on the leaderboard on her front nine:

 

She did great to bring it home - Nanna, Charley et al not so much.

 

Charley hasn't won a FOUR round LPGA/LET event since 2016 so hardly surprising.

 

Suspect that she loves her life though - I would.

[quackhead]

Wow!  What a great final day.  Congrats to Atthaya! 

 

Feel bad for Alana's triple on 6, otherwise she would have been possible top 10.  Rooting for her next tournament.

[pmcuk]

Thailand is on the rise as a serious golf nation - Jeeno, Patty, Pajaree.....

 

How much is this is because of Ariya and Moriya? 

[Cwebb]

16 hours ago, Argonne69 said:

 

Yeah, her pressure putting needs a little 3 in 1 oil. Squeak. 

 

 

She did make about an 8 foot birdie putt on 17 and another 8 footer for par on 18.  Both were must makes to have a chance at the playoff

[Argonne69]

57 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

 

She did make about an 8 foot birdie putt on 17 and another 8 footer for par on 18.  Both were must makes to have a chance at the playoff

 

That is true, but that nice 8 footer on the 18th was set up by a poor lag putt. Her lag putt on the 2nd playoff hole was also woefully short, leading to a 3 putt. Her birdie putt on the first playoff hole was a dead pull. 

 

Glad she won, but she was gifted this one by Nanna. 

 

[HMHS]

11 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

 

That is true, but that nice 8 footer on the 18th was set up by a poor lag putt. Her lag putt on the 2nd playoff hole was also woefully short, leading to a 3 putt. Her birdie putt on the first playoff hole was a dead pull. 

 

Glad she won, but she was gifted this one by Nanna. 

 

Agree... bogey vs double bogey for the playoff win = gifted

 

Nonetheless, there are signs of good putting (if the pressure isn't extreme, as evidenced indeed by 17th and 18th).  It's been discussed though and we've seen enough of missed close putts since last year's Honda Thailand though I admit I haven't seen enough LET putting from her (due to less coverage, obviously).    Her swing reminds me a bit of Morikawa (so does her wedge play and putting actually -- esp during Morikawa's early years in the PGA).  I expect she'll settle down a bit after this win and hopefully the putting on critical junctures esp when in the lead or protecting a lead gets better.   For now, the come from behind actually reminded me a bit of Minjee's Evian, truth be told... I'll definitely take both wins (Minjee and Jeen's ☺︎) 

[Stooch]

1 hour ago, Supermilo said:

Agree... bogey vs double bogey for the playoff win = gifted

 

Nonetheless, there are signs of good putting (if the pressure isn't extreme, as evidenced indeed by 17th and 18th).  It's been discussed though and we've seen enough of missed close putts since last year's Honda Thailand though I admit I haven't seen enough LET putting from her (due to less coverage, obviously).    Her swing reminds me a bit of Morikawa (so does her wedge play and putting actually -- esp during Morikawa's early years in the PGA).  I expect she'll settle down a bit after this win and hopefully the putting on critical junctures esp when in the lead or protecting a lead gets better.   For now, the come from behind actually reminded me a bit of Minjee's Evian, truth be told... I'll definitely take both wins (Minjee and Jeen's ☺︎) 

 

Atthaya is very similar in play style to Sei Young, Minjee, Brooke and Lexi.  They are all top tier ball strikers (over years of proving it) but they'll miss too many short ones but when the don't miss they are there fighting for or getting the win.  They are the type of player who are at 23rd going into Sunday but end up in 8th and they are usually also the type of players who win (sometimes multiple times) every year.  Jeeno gotta take advantage of that youthful exuberance where the bad putting week bounce's off you easily.  At around 22-23 yr old all those short misses will form a mental scar and then the putter can drag you down a little bit.  I think Sei Young, Minjee, Brooke and Lexi all showed this in their early twenties.  I wanted to add Nelly but she came into her own in her early 20's and started regularly getting it done, I guess you could say the same about Sei Young but she was getting it done on the KLPGA then.

 

Also making the call I did with Atthaya wasn't that difficult other than the timing of making it.  She didn't seem that comfortable being a shot or two around the lead going into a Sunday, so I figured her 1st win would be by curb stomping the field and winning by 6 or a come from behind.  I hold Atthaya in such high regard she in a small group of player I think difficulty of course doesn't really matter if they are on their game they can tear it apart.  So this became the best event for her to come from behind, JYK was my only wild card but she didn't look like she was gonna go really low on this particular Sunday.  The course  also has the ability to hold the leader in check and especially when it was a 3 shot lead, Nanna didn't look that comfortable closing in Thailand but as a course for getting the win as leader, it's great very unlikely you'll go backward your biggest worry is not keeping up making birdies.

 

[HMHS]

9 hours ago, pmcuk said:

Thailand is on the rise as a serious golf nation - Jeeno, Patty, Pajaree.....

 

How much is this is because of Ariya and Moriya? 

Partly bec of the Jutanugarns, partly Porny 😈

 

also partly SCG (Siam Cement Group), not much different from ICTSI for Yuka/Bianca/Dottie etc… (though obviously the Thais are way better in playing the sport )

[ChronicSlicer]

12 hours ago, pmcuk said:

So who's the next first time winner on the LPGA?

 

Xiyu Lin

Na Rin An

Hye Jin Choi

Ayako Furue

 

Yealimi Noh ?

Lisette Salas ???

Esther Henseleit ???

 

 

 

Impossible to be Lizette, since she already won back in 2014 at Kingsmill.

[Raving Shanker]

Well done to Jeeno.

 

I still believe in Koerstz-Madsen-Hansen though. She is shaky under pressure, but fully acknowledges it. The win in Thailand doesn't just make it all disappear, but she at least knows she can win - unlike say Altomare, Ciganda and Salas (even though those last two have won, in a different era). The next first-time winner is always an intriguing question. At the beginning of the season I thought it would be one of the so-called "rookies", but thought grumpy bum Kupcho was also a real chance. But is that derriere more squeaky than grumpy? I think fairly obviously, HJ Choi and Na Rin An can win, but what about Furue? Will Altomare suddenly get angry, throw off her sleeves and demure demeanour, and slaughter a field, with gnashing teeth and spite in her eyes? I'd like to see that!

[Golf Dino]

22 minutes ago, Raving Shanker said:

Well done to Jeeno.

 

I still believe in Koerstz-Madsen-Hansen though. She is shaky under pressure, but fully acknowledges it. The win in Thailand doesn't just make it all disappear, but she at least knows she can win - unlike say Altomare, Ciganda and Salas (even though those last two have won, in a different era). The next first-time winner is always an intriguing question. At the beginning of the season I thought it would be one of the so-called "rookies", but thought grumpy bum Kupcho was also a real chance. But is that derriere more squeaky than grumpy? I think fairly obviously, HJ Choi and Na Rin An can win, but what about Furue? Will Altomare suddenly get angry, throw off her sleeves and demure demeanour, and slaughter a field, with gnashing teeth and spite in her eyes? I'd like to see that!

 

I agree with you about Nanna.  She has made some giant strides so far.  And even though she felt some pressure going into the closing stretch yesterday, she was mature enough to understand that it wasn't the end of the world and that she knows that she must improve in that area. 

 

As for Furue, I like her and she knows how to win having won 7 times on the JLPGA . . . but, I am not sure her game is strong enough off the tee to become a multiple winner . . . she is not short by any means, averaging 258 yards this week at JTBC, but her SG off the tee is below average and that putts puts pressure on the remainder of her game.   The good news for her is that she is above average in all of the other SG categories.  

 

For comparison, here are the Top 5 players from yesterday:

Atthaya - 270 yds

Nanna - 270 yds

MA Leblanc - 286 yds

Na Rin - 264 yds

Pajaree -  271 yds.

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Golf Dino

[Raving Shanker]

4 minutes ago, Golf Dino said:

 

I agree with you about Nanna.  She has made some giant strides so far.  And even though she felt some pressure going into the closing stretch yesterday, she was mature enough to understand that it wasn't the end of the world and that she knows that she must improve in that area. 

 

As for Furue, I like her and she knows how to win having won 7 times on the JLPGA . . . but, I am not sure her game is strong enough off the tee to become a multiple winner . . . she is not short by any means, averaging 258 yards this week at JTBC, but her SG off the tee is below average and that putts pressure on the remainder of her game.   The good news for her is that she is above average in all of the other SG categories.  

 

For comparison, here are the Top 5 players from yesterday:

Atthaya - 270 yds

Nanna - 270 yds

MA Leblanc - 286 yds

Na Rin - 264 yds

Pajaree -  271 yds.

 

You could be right, and it is basically what I feel.

Watching yesterday I felt An was at a disadvantage because of her distance of the tee compared to Nanna, and Furue in the same situation will be a few yard back of An. All other things being equal, length matters.

[Golf Dino]

3 minutes ago, Raving Shanker said:

All other things being equal, length matters.

 

And that is where JYK is deadly . . . she is more than equal in the rest of her game.  Inbee has been doing that for years.  And that is what Ayaka Furue needs to do as well - improve in those areas enough to mitigate the disadvantage off the tee.  

 

I hope to spend some time next month reviewing the latest set of SG data so we can see how the players stack up with more rounds under their belts.

[iBanesto]

Thitikul moves to world No. 5!

 

rank		player	avg pts	tot pts	evts
1		Jin Young KO	10.16	436.72	43
2		Nelly Korda	8.86	372.18	42
3		Lydia Ko	6.27	319.65	51
4		Minjee Lee	5.26	263.04	50
5		Atthaya Thitikul	5.24	183.42	29
6		In Bee PARK	5.18	243.43	47
7		Danielle Kang	5.08	243.99	48
8		Sei Young Kim	4.90	235.26	48
9		Nasa Hataoka	4.75	242.17	51
10		Brooke M. Henderson	4.74	237.00	50

[JungleJimbo]

15 minutes ago, iBanesto said:

Thitikul moves to world No. 5!

 

rank		player	avg pts	tot pts	evts
1		Jin Young KO	10.16	436.72	43
2		Nelly Korda	8.86	372.18	42
3		Lydia Ko	6.27	319.65	51
4		Minjee Lee	5.26	263.04	50
5		Atthaya Thitikul	5.24	183.42	29
6		In Bee PARK	5.18	243.43	47
7		Danielle Kang	5.08	243.99	48
8		Sei Young Kim	4.90	235.26	48
9		Nasa Hataoka	4.75	242.17	51
10		Brooke M. Henderson	4.74	237.00	50

more Rolex Rankings details in the tabular summary posted by @18majors in another thread (Chevron)

 

 

 

 

[iBanesto]

12 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

more Rolex Rankings details in the tabular summary posted by @18majors in another thread (Chevron)

 

 

 

 

 

[AWinfortheAges]

Did the other YouTube Tv subscribers here get next to nothing recorded for round 4?

 

I assume it's because Golf Channel showed extra PGA coverage. 

[JungleJimbo]

25 minutes ago, AWinfortheAges said:

Did the other YouTube Tv subscribers here get next to nothing recorded for round 4?

 

I assume it's because Golf Channel showed extra PGA coverage. 

@AWinfortheAges I can't answer your specific question w.r.t. Youtube TV... 
but SkySportsGolf allows on-demand replay/ 'Live-stream' i.e. there's a ~4 hour R4 replay available on-demand.

(requires VPN set to UK 🇬🇧: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa98aY7eenHS_YhehF-vuEQ)

R4 Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNmkMt946A 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by JungleJimbo

[Golf Dino]

26 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

@AWinfortheAges I can't answer your specific question w.r.t. Youtube TV... 
but SkySportsGolf allows on-demand replay/ 'Live-stream' i.e. there's a ~4 hour R4 replay available on-demand.

(requires VPN set to UK 🇬🇧: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa98aY7eenHS_YhehF-vuEQ)

R4 Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNmkMt946A 

 

 

 

But Round 4 was not LIVE . . . it only became available afterwards . . . or so that it seemed.  I couldn't find R4 at all until afterwards.

[Lobby]

I recorded the tourney on Sling TV / Golf Channel.  

Of course, it didn't  catch the playoff.

 

So I head over to the LPGA site and they also had no specific coverage of the playoff.   I didn't get to see Nanna's double bogey.

[8602081]

52 minutes ago, Lobby said:

I recorded the tourney on Sling TV / Golf Channel.  

Of course, it didn't  catch the playoff.

 

So I head over to the LPGA site and they also had no specific coverage of the playoff.   I didn't get to see Nanna's double bogey.

My DVR on youtubeTV catched the playoff.  It might be that the playoff came after scheduled time.  I have it set so that it records all LPGA and PGA.. so the recording might have carried through thinking it was PGA recording.

 

[HMHS]

9 hours ago, Golf Dino said:

 

 

But Round 4 was not LIVE . . . it only became available afterwards . . . or so that it seemed.  I couldn't find R4 at all until afterwards.

where? In Sky Sports or in Canada?  (I was clearly watching live as I didn't engage in these - literally used GC US for this one with added chatter from the course - via facebook messenger LOL)

[m_w]

any one know what irons Na Rin An is playing? Looks like Callaway X-Forged or TCB 

[Golf Dino]

2 hours ago, Supermilo said:

where? In Sky Sports or in Canada?  (I was clearly watching live as I didn't engage in these - literally used GC US for this one with added chatter from the course - via facebook messenger LOL)

 

Sky Sports.

[Argonne69]

11 hours ago, m_w said:

any one know what irons Na Rin An is playing? Looks like Callaway X-Forged or TCB 

 

Yeah, definitely one of those two. 'Hard to tell from this angle, as they both have the trapezoidal insert.

 

 

[m_w]

 

47 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

 

Yeah, definitely one of those two. 'Hard to tell from this angle, as they both have the trapezoidal insert.

 

 

that looks like the X-Forged CB. The TCB has some black microsphere lines in the back I believe.