Tour Rickie Fowler's new putter and iron shafts – 2022 Wells Fargo Championship

[atursky]

Edited May 4, 2022 by atursky

[bcflyguy1]

When golf gets you down, it keeps kicking and doesn't stop until it gets enough.

Hope Fowler can recover from the dark place his golf is in right now.

[Notashank]

Putter has a different face than the retail version. 

[PearSorbet17]

Wow a mallet now. Career over. 

[maverick1st]

Back to C-tapers.... 

[Notashank]

6 minutes ago, PearSorbet17 said:

Wow a mallet now. Career over. 

He won his first tournament with a mallet at quail hollow and putting cross handed. 

[jmorrow020]

16 minutes ago, Notashank said:

Putter has a different face than the retail version. 

 

yeah no sik technology... interesting

[BombsIntoTheWoods]

still looks to be the sik face, just not the aluminum face that dings up to all hell

[lenny171]

30 minutes ago, PearSorbet17 said:

Wow a mallet now. Career over. 

he has been using a mallet for most of the year

[T2WIN]

Are those shafts correct? Is he playing Stiff shafts??? 

[Break68]

STIFF PLUS , looks like.

Edited May 4, 2022 by Break68

[third-times-a-charm]

3 minutes ago, T2WIN said:

Are those shafts correct? Is he playing Stiff shafts??? 

Stiff+, and in a CTaper thats pretty stout.

 

Either way what difference does it make? Plenty of guys on tour playing S flex and even a few R

[T2WIN]

Well it does make a huge difference in what flex a person plays. As I'm sure most know. I was just surprised to see it was a stiff and not an X. Mostly because I know he like most tour players swing speed for driver is at 113 or higher. I didn't notice the + just saw the S and was thinking they were just a stiff shaft. 

[apsp_1]

Considering shaft flexs aren't linear between brands (or even between product lines...), an S flex on one product line could play the same as an R flex in another product line and vice versa. At the end of the day, if he feels more confident with a slightly softer flex, then whats the big deal?
 

Ultimately for Rickie, i'm hopeful this is a productive change and we see him make some more cuts.

[PureStrikes54]

17 minutes ago, T2WIN said:

Well it does make a huge difference in what flex a person plays. As I'm sure most know. I was just surprised to see it was a stiff and not an X. Mostly because I know he like most tour players swing speed for driver is at 113 or higher. I didn't notice the + just saw the S and was thinking they were just a stiff shaft. 

 

The C-Taper S+ is more stout than an X100 and better IMO than the C-Taper 130 X unless you're a super high speed guy. This is the shaft Justin Rose played forever. Great blend of stability with still a bit of workability and spin instead of rebar C-Taper 130x's. 

[scott406]

When Cobra puts that putter face on its retail version, I am all in 

 

[Wham49]

he will be able to work them for 2 rounds at least

 

How long till he is out of most of the big tourneys,  has to be getting close 

[jah7838]

9 minutes ago, PureStrikes54 said:

 

The C-Taper S+ is more stout than an X100 and better IMO than the C-Taper 130 X unless you're a super high speed guy. This is the shaft Justin Rose played forever. Great blend of stability with still a bit of workability and spin instead of rebar C-Taper 130x's. 

I would agree with this.  I've played the TI s400 in my irons and wedges for a few years now, and I have a hard time loading the C Tapers.  It's a good shaft if it works for you, but it's not one that works for me.  

[TheMoneyShot]

Maybe these changes will help him make the cut this week.

 

[T2WIN]

28 minutes ago, PureStrikes54 said:

 

The C-Taper S+ is more stout than an X100 and better IMO than the C-Taper 130 X unless you're a super high speed guy. This is the shaft Justin Rose played forever. Great blend of stability with still a bit of workability and spin instead of rebar C-Taper 130x's. 

Thanks for the info. I've only played PX 6.5 or the X100 so I really don't have much insight on the C taper. Also, as I said I didn't see the plus just the S so that's why I made the question. 

[rkelso184]

Rickie defender here lol he can do no wrong in my eyes

 

- shafts he has played before. The issue with the ball change has always been his iron spin/ launch and how the ball comes off the putter 

 

- this is why he has been changing so much with the putter as it doesn’t react how he imagines 

 

- this is also why we have seen so many iron head and shaft combos. He used to play these shafts for years before originally changing to the S400 Ti shaft so this isn’t a huge change 

 

- looking at the clubs and shaft labels I would nearly bet these are actually an old set of irons? 

[Valtiel]

2 hours ago, T2WIN said:

Are those shafts correct? Is he playing Stiff shafts??? 

 

2 hours ago, T2WIN said:

Well it does make a huge difference in what flex a person plays. As I'm sure most know. I was just surprised to see it was a stiff and not an X. 

These are actually old shafts for him, as mentioned the C-Tapers are stout and the S+ is the more common variant on tour with the X occupying the same territory as the PX Rifle 7.0. 
 

1 hour ago, PureStrikes54 said:

 

The C-Taper S+ is more stout than an X100 and better IMO than the C-Taper 130 X unless you're a super high speed guy. This is the shaft Justin Rose played forever. Great blend of stability with still a bit of workability and spin instead of rebar C-Taper 130x's. 

Yeah you'll see X100s in all sorts of bags from higher to lower swing speed, but you basically never see the C-Taper X in anything but high speed beasts. 

[maverick1st]

1 hour ago, rkelso184 said:

Rickie defender here lol he can do no wrong in my eyes

 

- shafts he has played before. The issue with the ball change has always been his iron spin/ launch and how the ball comes off the putter 

 

- this is why he has been changing so much with the putter as it doesn’t react how he imagines 

 

- this is also why we have seen so many iron head and shaft combos. He used to play these shafts for years before originally changing to the S400 Ti shaft so this isn’t a huge change 

 

- looking at the clubs and shaft labels I would nearly bet these are actually an old set of irons? 

As soon as the switch to the TM ball happened he began tinkering with shafts and heads to get back to the same spin/launch windows. Maybe he will drop one of his x number of sponsors and puts the prov back into play. 

[rkelso184]

35 minutes ago, maverick1st said:

As soon as the switch to the TM ball happened he began tinkering with shafts and heads to get back to the same spin/launch windows. Maybe he will drop one of his x number of sponsors and puts the prov back into play. 

Unfortunately, this won't ever happen. TM would be willing to pay him 3 times more than Titleist just so they dont have the negative feedback of him leaving them and going back to play well. If anything I wouldn't imagine TM picking him up as a full staffer and making it work for him. Cobra is exceptional but they dont have the same resources and budget as TM so will be interesting. Titleist launches higher and spins more. A lot of ways to get higher launch and spin but in a tight window is never easy. Maybe the softer shafts are what's helping get this ball flight right?

[zap311]

Cobra saw Rickie pick up the TM Spider GT a few tournaments ago and said...."hold up, wait a minute", we got something for you.

Edited May 4, 2022 by zap311
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[Valtiel]

1 hour ago, rkelso184 said:

If anything I wouldn't imagine TM picking him up as a full staffer and making it work for him.

Definite Catch 22 there though. On one hand, I doubt they'd offer much to a guy going through such a protracted slump. On the other, if he starts to find it again then I doubt a big equipment change would be welcome in the midst of that. The dude can still wear out a sweet spot though, hope he finds competitive form again. 

[Tiptx1122]

Here we go again, why does it interest anyone what RF is playing, Maybe he picked up a Spider putter hoping that TM would want to sign him since he plays their ball. Another missed cut coming up. 

[Z1ggy16]

5 hours ago, T2WIN said:

Well it does make a huge difference in what flex a person plays. As I'm sure most know. I was just surprised to see it was a stiff and not an X. Mostly because I know he like most tour players swing speed for driver is at 113 or higher. I didn't notice the + just saw the S and was thinking they were just a stiff shaft. 

Flex "Rating" is basically meaningless. There is no industry standard. To me, an X100 feels wayyy (and it is) softer than a C-taper 130X.

[Shilgy]

5 hours ago, lenny171 said:

he has been using a mallet for most of the year

So you agreed with Lenny?  He hasn’t exactly lit it up for the “most of the year” he’s used the mallet.

 

Personally I hope he turns it around.  He seems to be one of the good guys.   
Could just be the course persona and ads but I’ve never read anything negative about him other than recent poor play and commercial shoot time(which is a ludicrous complaint imo).

[J_Tizzle]

5 hours ago, PureStrikes54 said:

 

The C-Taper S+ is more stout than an X100 and better IMO than the C-Taper 130 X unless you're a super high speed guy. This is the shaft Justin Rose played forever. Great blend of stability with still a bit of workability and spin instead of rebar C-Taper 130x's. 

One of the best feeling shafts I've ever hit.  I just loved it.

 

But the LZ fit my tempo a bit better and my launch needs a lot better.  Played the C Tapers in a set of G25.  High launch iron heads, with low launch low spin shafts.  It was a fun and surprisingly dangerous combo.