PGA Championship 2022

[aenemated]

4 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Day why you need

 

Octopus flask!

 

 

 

That Kraken is some good stuff! 

[wildcatden]

PGA: We just want to grow the game.

 

Also PGA:

[hammersia]

Just now, wildcatden said:

PGA: We just want to grow the game.

 

Also PGA:

Organic Seltzer... what even is that. Ginger Highball? 

 

Americans will start telling me how amazing biscuits and gravy is next.

[bscinstnct]

1 minute ago, hammersia said:

Organic Seltzer... what even is that. Ginger Highball? 

 

Americans will start telling me how amazing biscuits and gravy is next.

 

Beats boiled everything 

 

🤣

 

 

[Wander Bread]

13 minutes ago, wildcatden said:

PGA: We just want to grow the game.

 

Also PGA:

 

Are these 36 oz beers? 

[aenemated]

5 minutes ago, hammersia said:

Americans will start telling me how amazing biscuits and gravy is next.

 

 

Breakfast of champions! 

[m d g]

11 minutes ago, hammersia said:

Organic Seltzer... what even is that. Ginger Highball? 

 

A drink with no soul?

[MattyO1984]

22 minutes ago, wildcatden said:

PGA: We just want to grow the game.

 

Also PGA:

To be fair a well as complaining about the price of the beer, we should also be complaining about the choice of beer. I’d rather pour bin juice down my throat than pay to drink that 🤢

[m d g]

21 minutes ago, wildcatden said:

PGA: We just want to grow the game.

 

Also PGA:

If you're in Tulsa, Frito chili pie better be on the menu. It's awesome. Fritos smothered with beanless chili and some extras if you have time. If you're in a hurry, just open a bag of Fritos and pour the chili in. Delicious : )

[hammersia]

9 minutes ago, aenemated said:

 

 

Breakfast of champions! 

I had something like that served to me in America just to try. I couldn't get the fork to my mouth. Literally couldn't make myself swallow it. 

[Greg_B]

40 minutes ago, golf_junkie_85 said:

 

is he wearing those crappy Nike shoes?!?!

 

On the course so far this week he has been sporting Foot-Joys again. Apparently Nike hasn't been able to make a pair that works for his bionic foot.

[bscinstnct]

6 minutes ago, hammersia said:

I had something like that served to me in America just to try. I couldn't get the fork to my mouth. Literally couldn't make myself swallow it. 

 

Right 🤣

 

So enlighten us with your sense of refined palate as to what you find amenable?

 

Let me guess!

 

Sole Meunière with roasted potatoes and asparagus. 
 

N’est ce pas?

[teude]

Featured(?) groups:
 

Tiger - Rory - Spieth

Lowry - Koepka - Scott

DJ - JT - Cantlay

Morikawa - Rahm - Scheffler

Schauffle - Matsuyama - Finau

Varner III - Day - Fowler

[TheMoneyShot]

1 minute ago, teude said:

Featured(?) groups:
 

Tiger - Rory - Spieth

Lowry - Koepka - Scott

DJ - JT - Cantlay

Morikawa - Rahm - Scheffler

Schauffle - Matsuyama - Finau

Varner III - Day - Fowler

Crowds are going to be crazy…

[smashdn]

13 hours ago, TiScape said:

 

I think this actually sets up better for shorter drivers to have a chance.  Two less par fives so two less "non-flukey" chances at eagles.  The two existing par fives are incredibly long so they may just play as three-shot holes, especially if the wind is strong.

 

I'd be surprised if the par three holes don't play near 3.3 as a group (or higher).  A birdie on one or more of those in a round would be a real differentiator in relation to the field.

 

(I guess I need to get in here and get this in print before everyone goes, "See? Short hitters still have a chance."  This could well set-up like the 2007 Masters if the wind blows and what little rain (.66") they are predicting comes in Friday night.  Saturday morning may be see the field moving backwards if they keep things playing long.  On the other hand, if they over adjust it could be set up rather easy for the morning players and if the wind picks up in the afternoon play much harder then.)

[Duct Tape]

1 hour ago, aenemated said:

 

That Kraken is some good stuff! 

Release the Kraken!

[Duct Tape]

32 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Right 🤣

 

So enlighten us with your sense of refined palate as to what you find amenable?

 

Let me guess!

 

Sole Meunière with roasted potatoes and asparagus. 
 

N’est ce pas?

Dayum BSC, golf wrx guru and multilinguist?  Impressed!

[Neo1]

58 minutes ago, aenemated said:

 

 

Breakfast of champions! 

 

MERICA!!!

[Duct Tape]

Twelve, 13, 14 stretch is brutal. Gonna separate the field there.  Eighteen is long and way uphill! 
 

Opening hole no slouch too.  Never parred it. (But then my tree recoveries never seem to come off like Tiger’s or Figjams. ) 

Really hot and humid the first two days!

 

[bscinstnct]

5 minutes ago, Duct Tape said:

Dayum BSC, golf wrx guru and multilinguist?  Impressed!

 

Ha, just enough to order food with

 

Although I like to watch the waiters face twitch when I order

 

cream brool

 

🤣

[PowerFade36]

2 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

Breaking!

 

🤣

 

 

FJ dont make walking shoes? Cmon

[smashdn]

1 hour ago, MattyO1984 said:

To be fair a well as complaining about the price of the beer, we should also be complaining about the choice of beer. I’d rather pour bin juice down my throat than pay to drink that 🤢

 

When I went to the Senior PGA it was Stella or nothing.  I am not sure how they arrived at that choice.  Wait, yeah I am, money.

[iGolf67]

3 hours ago, iutodd said:

This is ridiculous. A 12 pack of 16 Oz aluminum bottle Mich Ultra sells for $17.  They are making $16.60 profit on each bottle.

 

 

I saw that. One of the things about The Masters is that concession prices are very reasonable. Props ANGC for doing that. 

[FriedEgg]

PGA and USGA have been gouging their customers for years now

[DON SVO]

1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Right 🤣

 

So enlighten us with your sense of refined palate as to what you find amenable?

 

Let me guess!

 

Sole Meunière with roasted potatoes and asparagus. 
 

N’est ce pas?

 

I'll let you in on a thing I discovered recently (coming from a Texas boy)... Poutine. Totally an America's Hat food but I have no idea why it hasn't taken off here? I'm a food whore so I hand cut my own fries (boil them in water and red wine vinegar, double fry them, do it proper) and make my own gravy with beef drippings, white cheddar cheese curds... holy moly. Delicious.

 

My point being don't knock it til you try it.  

 

I ain't trying $20 beers though, WTFLOLBBQ. Feels like the last Def Leppard concert I went to (beer prices were similar and blew me away).

[me05501]

I mean what some people do is go to a golf tournament and not get completely hammered and holler like a jerk every time anyone hits a golf ball and keep their 10x$17 in their bank account. 

[DON SVO]

1 minute ago, me05501 said:

I mean what some people do is go to a golf tournament and not get completely hammered and holler like a jerk every time anyone hits a golf ball and keep their 10x$17 in their bank account. 

 

There's a decent segment of the population that is quite OK with going to a bar where a live sporting event is also running concurrently. It's a slippery slope and we've had numerous threads about it before. 

 

I live down the road from Jerry World and have been to a handful of games, it's prevalent to say the least. 

 

Give me a $17 bottle of Monopolowa and a 2 liter of soda water with lime juice, I'll party on my own for under $20.

[iutodd]

23 minutes ago, smashdn said:

 

I think this actually sets up better for shorter drivers to have a chance.  Two less par fives so two less "non-flukey" chances at eagles.  The two existing par fives are incredibly long so they may just play as three-shot holes, especially if the wind is strong.

 

I'd be surprised if the par three holes don't play near 3.3 as a group (or higher).  A birdie on one or more of those in a round would be a real differentiator in relation to the field.

 

(I guess I need to get in here and get this in print before everyone goes, "See? Short hitters still have a chance."  This could well set-up like the 2007 Masters if the wind blows and what little rain (.66") they are predicting comes in Friday night.  Saturday morning may be see the field moving backwards if they keep things playing long.  On the other hand, if they over adjust it could be set up rather easy for the morning players and if the wind picks up in the afternoon play much harder then.)

 

Oh I really like this take actually!  

 

Let's dig into some stats to see if we can figure this out.  The assumption here is that a "shorter hitter" is going to leave themselves a favored number (a "full wedge") into the green.  I would say that a likely goal for this distance is somewhere between 100-125 yards.  A "longer hitter" is likely going to push it up there as far as they can to get as close to the green as possible.  How far they can push it up seems to make a BIG difference.

 

TL:Dr - There is a significant advantage in terms of average proximity to the hole (And therefore one-putt percentage) if you can get inside of 30 yards compared to 100-125 yards.

 

These are the PGA Tour Pro averages for proximity to the hole from certain distances:

 

Proximity to the hole 10-20 yards is 6'4".

Proximity to the hole 20-30 yards is 9'.  

Proximity to the hole 30-50 yards is 12'5".

Proximity to the hole 50-75 yards is 16'4".

Proximity to the hole 75-100 yards is 17'11".

Proximity to the hole 100-125 yards is 20'. 

 

The putting averages look like this.  (So this is percent of putts from a certain distance that pros make):

 

Putting from 6' the average make percentage is 71%!!

Putting from 9' the average make percentage is 45%

Putting from 10-15' the avenge make percentage is 30%.

Putting from 15-20' the average make is 18.5%.

 

So - I guess the data confirms our priors here - you want to get as close to the hole as you can.  But the advantage gets smaller fairly quickly and a player with 80 yards in likely only has a small advantage over someone with 110 yards in.  The player with 25 yards in has a MASSIVE advantage.

 

And there are a zillion permutations here.  Someone like Viktor Holland for instance.   His proximity to the hole is BETTER from 100-125 yards than it is from 50-75 yards.  So even though he's a great driver of the ball and 50th in distance...like he is probably better off leaving himself full wedges in if he can't get ON the green because his short game is so weak.  Actually his proximity to the hole is best from 125-150 yards!

[Hawkeye77]

They didn't show all of it, but wow, what a thoughtful, sometimes introspective and comprehensive press conference from Tiger, for the short segment I saw!

 

It was a "wow" for me and have been watching his press conferences for years and this was even better than a lot of what he talked about at the Masters.

[2putttom]

27 minutes ago, me05501 said:

I mean what some people do is go to a golf tournament and not get completely hammered and holler like a jerk every time anyone hits a golf ball and keep their 10x$17 in their bank account. 

@19.00 a beer they'll be broke and still sober by noon