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These days most OEMs have great coverage across the bag. If you had to play a full bag 14/14 clubs all from the same manufacturer, how would you rank them in preference?

 

  1. Mizuno
  2. Titleist (Vokey, Scotty cameron)
  3. Taylormade
  4. Ping
  5. Wilson
  6. Callaway (Odyssey)
  7. Cobra
  8. Srixon (Cleveland)
  9. PXG

 

Bonus round, 14/14 shafts from same brand:

 

  1. Fujikura
  2. Mitsubishi
  3. Project X
  4. KBS

 

Personally playing 14/14 in Mizuno already, and will probably end up 14/14 with Fujikura eventually when they release their new graphite iron offering.

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Well my bag will be almost all Sub 70 some time after my birthday but they were not on your list so here it goes.

Cobra

Srixon

Taylormade

Calloway

Titleist

Mizuno

Ping 

Wilson

PXG

Shafts would be a little tougher so I’ll leave them off the list.

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Driver- Tour Edge EXS 220

4W- Sub 70 949X

4H- Sub 70 949X

Utility- Sub 70 699U 21 degree

Irons- Sub 70 749 5-PW

Wedges - Sub 70 286 50+54 degree

                 Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree

Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach #11

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2 minutes ago, Markrip said:

Well my bag will be almost all Sub 70 some time after my birthday but they were not on your list so here it goes.

Cobra

Srixon

Taylormade

Calloway

Titleist

Mizuno

Ping 

Wilson

PXG

Shafts would be a little tougher so I’ll leave them off the list.

They were just all brands I could think of with all types of clubs, didn't know sub70 had everything also

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Adding a write in vote for Ram

 

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The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM 300 Mini 11.5*, 43.5", Phenom NL 60X -or- Cobra SpeedZone, ProtoPype 80S, 43.5"

Fwy woods: King LTD 3/4, Rogue Black 75X -or- TM Stage 2 Tour 3w, NV105 X -or- TEE E8 Beta 12*, Rogue Silver 70X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S -or- TEE CBX 17*, HZRDUS 85 6.0

2 iron:  Arias D-23, Modus3 120 S; Mizuno MP-20 HMB, NS Pro 950 R

Irons grab bag:  1-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 1-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R; 2-PW Golden Ram Vibration Matched, NS Pro 950WF S; testing: Arias D-23 5i w/Modus 120 S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, SteelFiber i125 S -or- Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Cobra Snakebite 56* -or- Wilson Staff PMP 58*, Dynamic S -or- Ram TW282 SW -or- Ram TW276 SW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34" -or- Maxfli TM-2, 35"
Balls: Chrome Soft, Kirkland Signature 3pc (v3), Wilson Triad

Grip preference: various GripMaster leather options or Star Grip Sidewinders of assorted colors

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Well, I’m playing a full TaylorMade bag at the moment, but here would be my top 3:

 

- TaylorMade

- Titleist 

- Srixon/Cleveland

 

For shafts, I would go True Temper/Project X. 

 

 

TaylorMade Stealth 2+ 9* |  Ventus Blue Velo 6S

TaylorMade Stealth+ 3W   | Ventus Blue Velo 7S

Titleist TSR3 5W | Graphite Design AD-IZ 8S

Titleist TSR2 4H  |  Graphite Design AD-DI 85S

Titleist T150 5 - GW | Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105X

TaylorMade MG3 54*  58* | Dynamic Gold S400

TaylorMade Spider GT Notchback

Titleist Pro V1 | Srixon Z-Star Diamond

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  1. Titleist
  2. Ping
  3. TaylorMade
  4. Callaway

 

After that, in my mind at least, it sort of become irrelevant as all of the others mentioned are good at maybe 1 or 2 things (Srixon with irons/wedges) for example, but they are lacking in other areas (such as driver/woods).

 

Even the guys on Tour who have deals with those brands (Wilson, Mizuno, etc.) are typically playing another OEM's woods, putter, and sometimes wedges.

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1 minute ago, Abh159 said:
  1. Titleist
  2. Ping
  3. TaylorMade
  4. Callaway

 

After that, in my mind at least, it sort of become irrelevant as all of the others mentioned are good at maybe 1 or 2 things (Srixon with irons/wedges) for example, but they are lacking in other areas (such as driver/woods).

 

Even the guys on Tour who have deals with those brands (Wilson, Mizuno, etc.) are typically playing another OEM's woods, putter, and sometimes wedges.

Definetely the big 4, especially in woods.

Although it's a bit strange with regards to Mizuno, who seem to get excellent reviews for their driver/woods on the internet. And personally I much prefer my STG220 to the new drivers from Taylormade and Cobra.

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#1 has got to be Titleist.  Can't overstate the Vokey/Scotty combo, and their irons and woods go beyond what one might consider "competent."  Throw in the ball, too.

 

I've got a sort of 2a/2b situation with Taylormade and Callaway.  I think I prefer Taylormade's iron sets, but Callaway does have Odyssey putters.

 

Give me Ping at #3, I could play their irons but I don't know that I'd be in love with them.  Their putters keep them above the following OEMs.

 

I'm back to an a/b situation at #4 with Mizuno and Srixon.  I love Cleveland wedges, but Mizuno's got the slight nod for everything else.  I didn't love the Srixon woods, but could make it work if I had to.

 

As far as shafts go, I'm lumping TT in with Project X.

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18 minutes ago, Poor Mans Ty Webb said:

#1 has got to be Titleist.  Can't overstate the Vokey/Scotty combo, and their irons and woods go beyond what one might consider "competent."  Throw in the ball, too.

 

I've got a sort of 2a/2b situation with Taylormade and Callaway.  I think I prefer Taylormade's iron sets, but Callaway does have Odyssey putters.

 

Give me Ping at #3, I could play their irons but I don't know that I'd be in love with them.  Their putters keep them above the following OEMs.

 

I'm back to an a/b situation at #4 with Mizuno and Srixon.  I love Cleveland wedges, but Mizuno's got the slight nod for everything else.  I didn't love the Srixon woods, but could make it work if I had to.

 

As far as shafts go, I'm lumping TT in with Project X.

If the ball also had to be the same brand, then I'd end up in titleist as well. Amzing line up of club at the minute, and the ball is of course the most trusted ball. Mizuno don't have a great ball for now.

 

But for my own bag set up, I find it hard to see why Titleist would be better than Mizuno. Certainly as good sure, but not better. And for looks Mizuno just edges it in all departments.

Although to be fair, I don't use fairwaywoods/hybrids, and I don't get very into specialty wedge grinds. I also just want a very plain milled putter, don't need crazy shapes or custom options.

In those 3 areas Titleist have better options.

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5 minutes ago, Trippels said:

If the ball also had to be the same brand, then I'd end up in titleist as well. Amzing line up of club at the minute, and the ball is of course the most trusted ball. Mizuno don't have a great ball for now.

 

But for my own bag set up, I find it hard to see why Titleist would be better than Mizuno. Certainly as good sure, but not better. And for looks Mizuno just edges it in all departments.

Although to be fair, I don't use fairwaywoods/hybrids, and I don't get very into specialty wedge grinds. I also just want a very plain milled putter, don't need crazy shapes or custom options.

In those 3 areas Titleist have better options.

 

I respect it.  Upon further review, yeah, I think I may have rated Mizuno too low.  They're definitely a better lineup than Srixon, and if you're weighting irons above woods, putters, and wedges, yeah that new Mizuno Pro line looks better than the T line, although I still prefer the look of the 620 MB over anything Mizuno has.

 

I think my rankings came from a more general view, versus what I would personally prefer.

 

If I were to retool rankings based on my own personal preferences, I have an unreasonable anti-Callaway bias, so they'd get a drop.  I'd rather play a 14 club Mizuno bag than a 14 club Callaway bag.  I'd still go Titleist #1 for the versatility of options from woods down to wedges and putters.

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Shafts first...

 

1. Mitsubishi. Can't wait for the 1K Blue, whenever that eventually comes out. I play the Diamana TB in my driver now, and could play it throughout my woods. MMTs are great iron shafts. 

 

2. Graphite Design. I LOVE their wood and hybrid shafts. I'm finding the UB is my favorite fairway wood shaft, and the HD is my second-favorite driver shaft right after the Diamana TB. The iron shafts are just pretty damn expensive, so I haven't tried them.

 

3. Fujikura. The Ventus TR breaking problems are a concern. The Ventus Blue is a good shaft for me in driver and hybrids. Pro iron shafts are well-reviewed but I haven't tried them.

 

Not ranked because it's not fair: True Temper Sports. I mean there's just so much under their umbrella -- Dynamic Gold, Project X, Accra, Aerotech, etc. I'm happy with DG TI S400s or Accra Tour iWedge 130 M4s in all my wedges. PX LZs are a go-to in irons, although I recently switched to Steelfiber i110s to help with a wrist injury and I'm liking those too. Project X RDX Blue is a pretty good wood shaft for me. I haven't tried lots of Accra wood shafts but there are tons of options there too. Given how much falls under the True Temper umbrella, I'm not sure anyone, except MAYBE Mitsubishi, compares. I'm also not ranking KBS or Nippon because I haven't tried enough of their wood or hybrid shafts. They do make great steel iron shafts, but that's all I really know from those brands.

 

TBD: LA Golf. I have one L-series iron shaft on the way to try. I haven't hit any of their stuff except the Trono, and I'm interested in learning more about it. Wish they published EI profiles or more details about the profiles of all their shafts.

 

Then on the clubs... just for fun, and because I'm procrastinating on somethign right now, I'll also do what would be in my bag if I played these brands only:

 

1. Ping. Their latest wedges and PLD putters are what pushed them into first for me. (G425 Max 9* driver with GD AD VR 6X, the G425 Max 3 and 5 woods I have in my signature, throw in a G425 4 hybrid with the stock Rogue Black 95 TX because that's a great shaft. Then i210s with Modus 120X (I have a set of these in the closet and love them), Glide 4.0 54/14, and the Glide Forged Pro Eye2 59. PLD putter, the blade with a sight line, don't remember what it's called.)

 

2. Titleist. This is so close with Ping to me. (I'd go TSi3 8* with Diamana TB 60X, TSi2 16.5* with GD AD UB 7X, TSi2 hybrid with GD AD DI 85X, u505 4 utility with a GD AD DI 95X, then T200 5/6 and T100S 7-PW with PX LZ 6.0, Vokey SM9 48, 54/14, 60/08, Scotty Newport 2.)

 

3. Callaway. I'm absolutely loving the Rogue ST line. (I'd go with my current gamer, Rogue ST Max LS 9* with Diamana TB 60X, a 3 wood I also currently have, Rogue ST LS with a GD AD UB 7X, then a 19 degree Apex UW with a UB 8X, the Rogue ST Pro 23* hybrid with a DI 95X, Rogue ST Pro 5-PW and I'd snag that deal they've been running on Steelfibers to put in them, the new Jaws wedges at 48/54/60, and an Odyssey White Hot OG Double Wide with a Stroke Lab shaft.)

 

4. Cobra. Their wedges are my only question mark, because I haven't tried them. But I LOVE their low spin, higher lofted fairway woods. I need to go buy a Radspeed Tour or an LTDx LS 5 wood, like today. (I'd do a LTDx 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, since it's a shaft I get along really well with and it's a premium option whereas you can't get the Diamana TB through them. Then a LTDx LS 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, an LTDx LS 5 wood with a UB 8X, the Forged Tec X 4-5 irons and the new Forged Tec 6-PW, I'd try Recoils in them since the upcharge is super reasonable. Snakebite wedges, 48/54/60 or whatever works with gapping from the Forged Tecs. TI S400s in my wedges, really across all of these brands. And then I like that KING Sport-45 putter.)

 

5. TaylorMade. The If they made the Stealth Plus fairway in a 16.5 for lefties and made the P790 UDI for lefties, I'd have bought both by now.  (My TM-only bag would be a Stealth Plus 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, which is similar to my Diamana TB but I had good luck testing in a Stealth a few months ago ... then a Stealth Plus 15 degree 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, a Stealth Plus 19.5 degree 3 rescue with a GD AD DI 85X, which is another club I have in the closet right now and which replaces my 5 wood on really windy days, then P770 4/5 irons and P7MC 6-PW, MG3 52/56/60, and I don't really care for TM putters that much but whatever their cleanest blade model with a sight line on the back is, that's what I'd throw in.) 

 

6. Srixon/Cleveland. Throwing these in together because they're under the same owner. Irons and wedges are so good that they belong higher on the list, and I give them props for innovative products like the Hy-Wood that I'd like to try. I just have less experience with their woods, so I'm not too sure how well they'd work for me, whereas I've at least demoed the other brands pretty extensively. (ZX7 9 degree driver, Diamana TB 60X. ZX 3 wood, GD AD UB 7X. Cleveland 18 degree Hy-Wood, GD AD DI 85X. ZX 3 utility, DI 95X. ZX 4 5 iron, ZX5 6 iron, ZX7 7-PW, all with PX LZ 6.0. Cleveland Zipcores, 50/54/60, S400s. One of those Huntington Beach Soft blade putters.)

 

7. Mizuno. I LOVE Mizuno irons, they're number one in that category for sure for me. But things fall apart when you see how limited their options are for lefties around those irons. I'd buy a Fli-Hi in a heartbeat, for example. (My bag here would be an ST-Z 220 9.5 degree driver with a Diamana TB 60X, an ST-Z 3 wood with something a little lower-spinning than I'm playing elsewhere, maybe an RDX Blue 70 6.5, a CLK 3 hybrid because that's literally all Mizuno makes for lefties at this spot in the bag with a DI 85X, JPX 921 SEL or Mizuno Pro 223s with 4-GW with Steelfiber i110s, T22 54/14 and 60/06, OMOI blade putter.)

 

8. Sub 70. Massive, massive props to them for building out their lefty offerings over the last couple of years. The options are still somewhat limited, but, sticking with shafts you can get through them, I could go: 849D driver, Ventus Blue 6X; 949X 3 and 5 woods with AV Raw 75X, 949X 4 hybrid with a DI 85X, 659 CB Satins 5-PW with Modus 120X, 286 Forged wedges 50/54/60, 005 Wide Blade putter.

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Driver: Ping G430 LST 9* | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X

3W: Ping G430 Max @14* | Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 70X

7W: Ping G430 Max @20* | Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X (or sometimes G430 3H with Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S)

4 Utility: Ping iCrossover @23.5* | Graphite Design Tour AD DI 95X (or sometimes G430 5H at 25* with Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S)

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura AXIOM 105X

Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 54/12W@55/13W, 60/12X | Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide 

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2 minutes ago, eric61 said:

Shafts first...

 

1. Mitsubishi. Can't wait for the 1K Blue, whenever that eventually comes out. I play the Diamana TB in my driver now, and could play it throughout my woods. MMTs are great iron shafts. 

 

2. Graphite Design. I LOVE their wood and hybrid shafts. I'm finding the UB is my favorite fairway wood shaft, and the HD is my second-favorite driver shaft right after the Diamana TB. The iron shafts are just pretty damn expensive, so I haven't tried them.

 

3. Fujikura. The Ventus TR breaking problems are a concern. The Ventus Blue is a good shaft for me in driver and hybrids. Pro iron shafts are well-reviewed but I haven't tried them.

 

Not ranked because it's not fair: True Temper Sports. I mean there's just so much under their umbrella -- Dynamic Gold, Project X, Accra, Aerotech, etc. I'm happy with DG TI S400s or Accra Tour iWedge 130 M4s in all my wedges. PX LZs are a go-to in irons, although I recently switched to Steelfiber i110s to help with a wrist injury and I'm liking those too. Project X RDX Blue is a pretty good wood shaft for me. I haven't tried lots of Accra wood shafts but there are tons of options there too. Given how much falls under the True Temper umbrella, I'm not sure anyone, except MAYBE Mitsubishi, compares. I'm also not ranking KBS or Nippon because I haven't tried enough of their wood or hybrid shafts. They do make great steel iron shafts, but that's all I really know from those brands.

 

TBD: LA Golf. I have one L-series iron shaft on the way to try. I haven't hit any of their stuff except the Trono, and I'm interested in learning more about it. Wish they published EI profiles or more details about the profiles of all their shafts.

 

Then on the clubs... just for fun, and because I'm procrastinating on somethign right now, I'll also do what would be in my bag if I played these brands only:

 

1. Ping. Their latest wedges and PLD putters are what pushed them into first for me. (G425 Max 9* driver with GD AD VR 6X, the G425 Max 3 and 5 woods I have in my signature, throw in a G425 4 hybrid with the stock Rogue Black 95 TX because that's a great shaft. Then i210s with Modus 120X (I have a set of these in the closet and love them), Glide 4.0 54/14, and the Glide Forged Pro Eye2 59. PLD putter, the blade with a sight line, don't remember what it's called.)

 

2. Titleist. This is so close with Ping to me. (I'd go TSi3 8* with Diamana TB 60X, TSi2 16.5* with GD AD UB 7X, TSi2 hybrid with GD AD DI 85X, u505 4 utility with a GD AD DI 95X, then T200 5/6 and T100S 7-PW with PX LZ 6.0, Vokey SM9 48, 54/14, 60/08, Scotty Newport 2.)

 

3. Callaway. I'm absolutely loving the Rogue ST line. (I'd go with my current gamer, Rogue ST Max LS 9* with Diamana TB 60X, a 3 wood I also currently have, Rogue ST LS with a GD AD UB 7X, then a 19 degree Apex UW with a UB 8X, the Rogue ST Pro 23* hybrid with a DI 95X, Rogue ST Pro 5-PW and I'd snag that deal they've been running on Steelfibers to put in them, the new Jaws wedges at 48/54/60, and an Odyssey White Hot OG Double Wide with a Stroke Lab shaft.)

 

4. Cobra. Their wedges are my only question mark, because I haven't tried them. But I LOVE their low spin, higher lofted fairway woods. I need to go buy a Radspeed Tour or an LTDx LS 5 wood, like today. (I'd do a LTDx 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, since it's a shaft I get along really well with and it's a premium option whereas you can't get the Diamana TB through them. Then a LTDx LS 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, an LTDx LS 5 wood with a UB 8X, the Forged Tec X 4-5 irons and the new Forged Tec 6-PW, I'd try Recoils in them since the upcharge is super reasonable. Snakebite wedges, 48/54/60 or whatever works with gapping from the Forged Tecs. TI S400s in my wedges, really across all of these brands. And then I like that KING Sport-45 putter.)

 

5. TaylorMade. The If they made the Stealth Plus fairway in a 16.5 for lefties and made the P790 UDI for lefties, I'd have bought both by now.  (My TM-only bag would be a Stealth Plus 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, which is similar to my Diamana TB but I had good luck testing in a Stealth a few months ago ... then a Stealth Plus 15 degree 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, a Stealth Plus 19.5 degree 3 rescue with a GD AD DI 85X, which is another club I have in the closet right now and which replaces my 5 wood on really windy days, then P770 4/5 irons and P7MC 6-PW, MG3 52/56/60, and I don't really care for TM putters that much but whatever their cleanest blade model with a sight line on the back is, that's what I'd throw in.) 

 

6. Srixon/Cleveland. Throwing these in together because they're under the same owner. Irons and wedges are so good that they belong higher on the list, and I give them props for innovative products like the Hy-Wood that I'd like to try. I just have less experience with their woods, so I'm not too sure how well they'd work for me, whereas I've at least demoed the other brands pretty extensively. (ZX7 9 degree driver, Diamana TB 60X. ZX 3 wood, GD AD UB 7X. Cleveland 18 degree Hy-Wood, GD AD DI 85X. ZX 3 utility, DI 95X. ZX 4 5 iron, ZX5 6 iron, ZX7 7-PW, all with PX LZ 6.0. Cleveland Zipcores, 50/54/60, S400s. One of those Huntington Beach Soft blade putters.)

 

7. Mizuno. I LOVE Mizuno irons, they're number one in that category for sure for me. But things fall apart when you see how limited their options are for lefties around those irons. I'd buy a Fli-Hi in a heartbeat, for example. (My bag here would be an ST-Z 220 9.5 degree driver with a Diamana TB 60X, an ST-Z 3 wood with something a little lower-spinning than I'm playing elsewhere, maybe an RDX Blue 70 6.5, a CLK 3 hybrid because that's literally all Mizuno makes for lefties at this spot in the bag with a DI 85X, JPX 921 SEL or Mizuno Pro 223s with 4-GW with Steelfiber i110s, T22 54/14 and 60/06, OMOI blade putter.)

 

8. Sub 70. Massive, massive props to them for building out their lefty offerings over the last couple of years. The options are still somewhat limited, but, sticking with shafts you can get through them, I could go: 849D driver, Ventus Blue 6X; 949X 3 and 5 woods with AV Raw 75X, 949X 4 hybrid with a DI 85X, 659 CB Satins 5-PW with Modus 120X, 286 Forged wedges 50/54/60, 005 Wide Blade putter.

LA golf would probably end up high on my list, if I actually had a chance to try them.

Then again, the high prices and cringy marketing push me away.

 

Great effort on the bag set ups

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37 minutes ago, eric61 said:

Shafts first...

 

1. Mitsubishi. Can't wait for the 1K Blue, whenever that eventually comes out. I play the Diamana TB in my driver now, and could play it throughout my woods. MMTs are great iron shafts. 

 

2. Graphite Design. I LOVE their wood and hybrid shafts. I'm finding the UB is my favorite fairway wood shaft, and the HD is my second-favorite driver shaft right after the Diamana TB. The iron shafts are just pretty damn expensive, so I haven't tried them.

 

3. Fujikura. The Ventus TR breaking problems are a concern. The Ventus Blue is a good shaft for me in driver and hybrids. Pro iron shafts are well-reviewed but I haven't tried them.

 

Not ranked because it's not fair: True Temper Sports. I mean there's just so much under their umbrella -- Dynamic Gold, Project X, Accra, Aerotech, etc. I'm happy with DG TI S400s or Accra Tour iWedge 130 M4s in all my wedges. PX LZs are a go-to in irons, although I recently switched to Steelfiber i110s to help with a wrist injury and I'm liking those too. Project X RDX Blue is a pretty good wood shaft for me. I haven't tried lots of Accra wood shafts but there are tons of options there too. Given how much falls under the True Temper umbrella, I'm not sure anyone, except MAYBE Mitsubishi, compares. I'm also not ranking KBS or Nippon because I haven't tried enough of their wood or hybrid shafts. They do make great steel iron shafts, but that's all I really know from those brands.

 

TBD: LA Golf. I have one L-series iron shaft on the way to try. I haven't hit any of their stuff except the Trono, and I'm interested in learning more about it. Wish they published EI profiles or more details about the profiles of all their shafts.

 

Then on the clubs... just for fun, and because I'm procrastinating on somethign right now, I'll also do what would be in my bag if I played these brands only:

 

1. Ping. Their latest wedges and PLD putters are what pushed them into first for me. (G425 Max 9* driver with GD AD VR 6X, the G425 Max 3 and 5 woods I have in my signature, throw in a G425 4 hybrid with the stock Rogue Black 95 TX because that's a great shaft. Then i210s with Modus 120X (I have a set of these in the closet and love them), Glide 4.0 54/14, and the Glide Forged Pro Eye2 59. PLD putter, the blade with a sight line, don't remember what it's called.)

 

2. Titleist. This is so close with Ping to me. (I'd go TSi3 8* with Diamana TB 60X, TSi2 16.5* with GD AD UB 7X, TSi2 hybrid with GD AD DI 85X, u505 4 utility with a GD AD DI 95X, then T200 5/6 and T100S 7-PW with PX LZ 6.0, Vokey SM9 48, 54/14, 60/08, Scotty Newport 2.)

 

3. Callaway. I'm absolutely loving the Rogue ST line. (I'd go with my current gamer, Rogue ST Max LS 9* with Diamana TB 60X, a 3 wood I also currently have, Rogue ST LS with a GD AD UB 7X, then a 19 degree Apex UW with a UB 8X, the Rogue ST Pro 23* hybrid with a DI 95X, Rogue ST Pro 5-PW and I'd snag that deal they've been running on Steelfibers to put in them, the new Jaws wedges at 48/54/60, and an Odyssey White Hot OG Double Wide with a Stroke Lab shaft.)

 

4. Cobra. Their wedges are my only question mark, because I haven't tried them. But I LOVE their low spin, higher lofted fairway woods. I need to go buy a Radspeed Tour or an LTDx LS 5 wood, like today. (I'd do a LTDx 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, since it's a shaft I get along really well with and it's a premium option whereas you can't get the Diamana TB through them. Then a LTDx LS 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, an LTDx LS 5 wood with a UB 8X, the Forged Tec X 4-5 irons and the new Forged Tec 6-PW, I'd try Recoils in them since the upcharge is super reasonable. Snakebite wedges, 48/54/60 or whatever works with gapping from the Forged Tecs. TI S400s in my wedges, really across all of these brands. And then I like that KING Sport-45 putter.)

 

5. TaylorMade. The If they made the Stealth Plus fairway in a 16.5 for lefties and made the P790 UDI for lefties, I'd have bought both by now.  (My TM-only bag would be a Stealth Plus 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, which is similar to my Diamana TB but I had good luck testing in a Stealth a few months ago ... then a Stealth Plus 15 degree 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, a Stealth Plus 19.5 degree 3 rescue with a GD AD DI 85X, which is another club I have in the closet right now and which replaces my 5 wood on really windy days, then P770 4/5 irons and P7MC 6-PW, MG3 52/56/60, and I don't really care for TM putters that much but whatever their cleanest blade model with a sight line on the back is, that's what I'd throw in.) 

 

6. Srixon/Cleveland. Throwing these in together because they're under the same owner. Irons and wedges are so good that they belong higher on the list, and I give them props for innovative products like the Hy-Wood that I'd like to try. I just have less experience with their woods, so I'm not too sure how well they'd work for me, whereas I've at least demoed the other brands pretty extensively. (ZX7 9 degree driver, Diamana TB 60X. ZX 3 wood, GD AD UB 7X. Cleveland 18 degree Hy-Wood, GD AD DI 85X. ZX 3 utility, DI 95X. ZX 4 5 iron, ZX5 6 iron, ZX7 7-PW, all with PX LZ 6.0. Cleveland Zipcores, 50/54/60, S400s. One of those Huntington Beach Soft blade putters.)

 

7. Mizuno. I LOVE Mizuno irons, they're number one in that category for sure for me. But things fall apart when you see how limited their options are for lefties around those irons. I'd buy a Fli-Hi in a heartbeat, for example. (My bag here would be an ST-Z 220 9.5 degree driver with a Diamana TB 60X, an ST-Z 3 wood with something a little lower-spinning than I'm playing elsewhere, maybe an RDX Blue 70 6.5, a CLK 3 hybrid because that's literally all Mizuno makes for lefties at this spot in the bag with a DI 85X, JPX 921 SEL or Mizuno Pro 223s with 4-GW with Steelfiber i110s, T22 54/14 and 60/06, OMOI blade putter.)

 

8. Sub 70. Massive, massive props to them for building out their lefty offerings over the last couple of years. The options are still somewhat limited, but, sticking with shafts you can get through them, I could go: 849D driver, Ventus Blue 6X; 949X 3 and 5 woods with AV Raw 75X, 949X 4 hybrid with a DI 85X, 659 CB Satins 5-PW with Modus 120X, 286 Forged wedges 50/54/60, 005 Wide Blade putter.

 

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I play a full PXG bag right now with the exception of putter, and i could easily get a putter from them...So i'll go PXG. I wish they had more shaft offerings , but in terms of club offerings i think they are one of the best right now. They offer a lot of options at a lot of price points.

 

Probably would go Callaway next because they will always have a ton of options

 

Srixon / Cleveland after that

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Srixon ZX5 w/PX Hzrdus Red 60

Srixon ZX 15 w/PX Hzrdus Red 70

Tour Edge C723 21* w/PX hzrdus black 80

Titleist T150 4-AW w/PX LZ 6.0

Titleist Jet Black 54/60 with PX LZ 6.0

Deschamps Crisp Antique 

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Gear:

1. Ping

2. Callaway

3. Mizuno

4. Srixon/Cleveland

5. Everyone else 

 

Shafts: 

1. Accra

2. Old Oban/VA Composites 

3. Fuji

4. Everyone else

PING G430 MAX 10K DRIVER w/ACCRA TZX 255

PING G430 MAX 3W w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200F

PING G425 MAX 7W w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200F

PING G425 5H w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200H

PING G425 6H w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200H

PING G425 6-UW w/AWT 2.0

PING GLIDE STEALTH 2.0 54.12 SS w/AWT 2.0

PING GLIDE STEALTH 2.0 60.10 SS w/AWT 2.0

PING ZING 2 PLD CUSTOM 

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Ping

Ping

Then Titleist/srixon in a tie for 3rd.  

 

True temper makes a lot of sense...but I do love KBS and Fuji.  I'd have to experiment but any of those three could be done, likely Fuji/KBS.  KBS I don't know their wood shafts well, Fuji I don't know their iron shafts well.   

PING G430 LST 10* Tensei 1K Pro Orange 50S

PING G430 LST 3Wd 16.0* Fujikura XLR8 61

PING iCrossover Ventus Blue HB 7R

PING i525 4-PW Mitsubishi OTi 105 Stiff

Edel 47* TRP/54* DVR/58* DVR KBS CTaper Lite 110 Stiff

 

PING PLD DZB Proto

 

 

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1 hour ago, eric61 said:

Shafts first...

 

1. Mitsubishi. Can't wait for the 1K Blue, whenever that eventually comes out. I play the Diamana TB in my driver now, and could play it throughout my woods. MMTs are great iron shafts. 

 

2. Graphite Design. I LOVE their wood and hybrid shafts. I'm finding the UB is my favorite fairway wood shaft, and the HD is my second-favorite driver shaft right after the Diamana TB. The iron shafts are just pretty damn expensive, so I haven't tried them.

 

3. Fujikura. The Ventus TR breaking problems are a concern. The Ventus Blue is a good shaft for me in driver and hybrids. Pro iron shafts are well-reviewed but I haven't tried them.

 

Not ranked because it's not fair: True Temper Sports. I mean there's just so much under their umbrella -- Dynamic Gold, Project X, Accra, Aerotech, etc. I'm happy with DG TI S400s or Accra Tour iWedge 130 M4s in all my wedges. PX LZs are a go-to in irons, although I recently switched to Steelfiber i110s to help with a wrist injury and I'm liking those too. Project X RDX Blue is a pretty good wood shaft for me. I haven't tried lots of Accra wood shafts but there are tons of options there too. Given how much falls under the True Temper umbrella, I'm not sure anyone, except MAYBE Mitsubishi, compares. I'm also not ranking KBS or Nippon because I haven't tried enough of their wood or hybrid shafts. They do make great steel iron shafts, but that's all I really know from those brands.

 

TBD: LA Golf. I have one L-series iron shaft on the way to try. I haven't hit any of their stuff except the Trono, and I'm interested in learning more about it. Wish they published EI profiles or more details about the profiles of all their shafts.

 

Then on the clubs... just for fun, and because I'm procrastinating on somethign right now, I'll also do what would be in my bag if I played these brands only:

 

1. Ping. Their latest wedges and PLD putters are what pushed them into first for me. (G425 Max 9* driver with GD AD VR 6X, the G425 Max 3 and 5 woods I have in my signature, throw in a G425 4 hybrid with the stock Rogue Black 95 TX because that's a great shaft. Then i210s with Modus 120X (I have a set of these in the closet and love them), Glide 4.0 54/14, and the Glide Forged Pro Eye2 59. PLD putter, the blade with a sight line, don't remember what it's called.)

 

2. Titleist. This is so close with Ping to me. (I'd go TSi3 8* with Diamana TB 60X, TSi2 16.5* with GD AD UB 7X, TSi2 hybrid with GD AD DI 85X, u505 4 utility with a GD AD DI 95X, then T200 5/6 and T100S 7-PW with PX LZ 6.0, Vokey SM9 48, 54/14, 60/08, Scotty Newport 2.)

 

3. Callaway. I'm absolutely loving the Rogue ST line. (I'd go with my current gamer, Rogue ST Max LS 9* with Diamana TB 60X, a 3 wood I also currently have, Rogue ST LS with a GD AD UB 7X, then a 19 degree Apex UW with a UB 8X, the Rogue ST Pro 23* hybrid with a DI 95X, Rogue ST Pro 5-PW and I'd snag that deal they've been running on Steelfibers to put in them, the new Jaws wedges at 48/54/60, and an Odyssey White Hot OG Double Wide with a Stroke Lab shaft.)

 

4. Cobra. Their wedges are my only question mark, because I haven't tried them. But I LOVE their low spin, higher lofted fairway woods. I need to go buy a Radspeed Tour or an LTDx LS 5 wood, like today. (I'd do a LTDx 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, since it's a shaft I get along really well with and it's a premium option whereas you can't get the Diamana TB through them. Then a LTDx LS 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, an LTDx LS 5 wood with a UB 8X, the Forged Tec X 4-5 irons and the new Forged Tec 6-PW, I'd try Recoils in them since the upcharge is super reasonable. Snakebite wedges, 48/54/60 or whatever works with gapping from the Forged Tecs. TI S400s in my wedges, really across all of these brands. And then I like that KING Sport-45 putter.)

 

5. TaylorMade. The If they made the Stealth Plus fairway in a 16.5 for lefties and made the P790 UDI for lefties, I'd have bought both by now.  (My TM-only bag would be a Stealth Plus 9* with a GD AD HD 6X, which is similar to my Diamana TB but I had good luck testing in a Stealth a few months ago ... then a Stealth Plus 15 degree 3 wood with a GD AD UB 7X, a Stealth Plus 19.5 degree 3 rescue with a GD AD DI 85X, which is another club I have in the closet right now and which replaces my 5 wood on really windy days, then P770 4/5 irons and P7MC 6-PW, MG3 52/56/60, and I don't really care for TM putters that much but whatever their cleanest blade model with a sight line on the back is, that's what I'd throw in.) 

 

6. Srixon/Cleveland. Throwing these in together because they're under the same owner. Irons and wedges are so good that they belong higher on the list, and I give them props for innovative products like the Hy-Wood that I'd like to try. I just have less experience with their woods, so I'm not too sure how well they'd work for me, whereas I've at least demoed the other brands pretty extensively. (ZX7 9 degree driver, Diamana TB 60X. ZX 3 wood, GD AD UB 7X. Cleveland 18 degree Hy-Wood, GD AD DI 85X. ZX 3 utility, DI 95X. ZX 4 5 iron, ZX5 6 iron, ZX7 7-PW, all with PX LZ 6.0. Cleveland Zipcores, 50/54/60, S400s. One of those Huntington Beach Soft blade putters.)

 

7. Mizuno. I LOVE Mizuno irons, they're number one in that category for sure for me. But things fall apart when you see how limited their options are for lefties around those irons. I'd buy a Fli-Hi in a heartbeat, for example. (My bag here would be an ST-Z 220 9.5 degree driver with a Diamana TB 60X, an ST-Z 3 wood with something a little lower-spinning than I'm playing elsewhere, maybe an RDX Blue 70 6.5, a CLK 3 hybrid because that's literally all Mizuno makes for lefties at this spot in the bag with a DI 85X, JPX 921 SEL or Mizuno Pro 223s with 4-GW with Steelfiber i110s, T22 54/14 and 60/06, OMOI blade putter.)

 

8. Sub 70. Massive, massive props to them for building out their lefty offerings over the last couple of years. The options are still somewhat limited, but, sticking with shafts you can get through them, I could go: 849D driver, Ventus Blue 6X; 949X 3 and 5 woods with AV Raw 75X, 949X 4 hybrid with a DI 85X, 659 CB Satins 5-PW with Modus 120X, 286 Forged wedges 50/54/60, 005 Wide Blade putter.

Here's how my set ups would be for my top three, I'm sure you can see a pattern. Mizuno, and Titleist are also the only ones to offer a set up like this in a nice design. TaylorMade also if they released the P770 2 iron to retail. 

 

Mizuno:
1# STG220 @-2° weights forward
2-5# 225 14-26°
6-9# 221 30-42°
10-13# T22 46-58°
14# OMOI 02 blue 3°

 

Titleist:
1# TSR4 8°@D1
2-5# T200 15-27°
6-9# T100 31-43°
10-13# Vokey SM9 47-59°
14# Scotty Cameron newport custom black 3°

 

Taylormade:
1# Stealth plus 8°@-2 weight in heel
2-5# P770 15-27°
6-9# P7MB 31-43°
10-13# MG3 47-59°
14# TP custom black 3°

 

Shafts: Fujikura Ventus black velocore TX
Grips: Grip master roo midsize

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In order of what I would play:

 

Srixon/Cleveland

Mizuno

Sub70

Titliest 

PXG

Ping

 

The biggest reason I could never do a full bag of Callaway is I don’t like look of irons at address and never got along with odyssey putters, TM ugliest putters ever made and Cobra putters are right on there heals.

Driver - Testing in Progress

3 - 6 Hybrids - Cleveland Halo XL (19*, 21*, 24*, 27*)

7i - GW - Titleist T200 7-GW

SW - Cleveland RTX4 54*

LW - Cleveland RTX6 58*

LW2 - Cleveland RTX4 62*

Putter - Sled 01

Ball - Venture RS-1

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PXG

Titleist

Ping

Callaway

 

 

 

 

Driver: Callaway Paradym 9 set to 10 Draw

3W Callaway  Epic Flash

5w Callaway Epic Flash
Hybrids: 4-5 Epic Flash    
               6-7 Big Bertha 

               7 Ping G430 played as an 8 

Irons: PXG Gen4 XP 9-GW

Wedges: PXG 0311 52 56 degree Forged

Putter: Odyssey Rossie Pro 2.0 

 

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Titleist

(Gap) 

Taylormade / Ping

Cobra (putter going to hold them back) 

 

In theory, Callaway should be there somewhere but I just don't get along with almost any of their stuff. PXG also in that category for me. 

 

I'll likely never be able to put together a shaft list. I'm way too dug in with DG iron and Fuji graphite. 

Cobra RadSpeed (9°) - Fujikura Ventus Black 6X

Cobra SpeedZone Big Tour (13.5°) - Fujikura ATMOS TS Black 7X

Cobra SpeedZone Tour (17.5°) - Fujikura ATMOS TS Black 7X

TaylorMade Rescue 11 TP (16°) - Aldila RIP 85X

Titleist U500 (2) - Fujikura ATMOS TS Black 95X

Titleist 620CB (3-6) - True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

Titleist 620MB (7-9) - True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

Titleist Vokey SM8 (48.10F, 54.12D, 60.12D) - True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

Taylormade Spider X #3

Titleist ProV1x

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