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2 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

Serious question.  Do you dock a group for slow play if one of the kids has to stop middle of the round to drop Deuces and they get a hole behing?

 

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It's a crappy situation for sure.  Have not run into this in our tournaments yet. I tell my kid to take care of business beforehand, otherwise, he will have to withdraw if he has to go #2 on the course.  If it were someone else's kid, no control, but I'd put them on the clock and start calling the tour director or flagging down a rules official.

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3 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

Serious question.  Do you dock a group for slow play if one of the kids has to stop middle of the round to drop Deuces and they get a hole behing?

 

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For real! These kids need more roughage to keep everything moving. 

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There's definitely something more important that I should be doing.
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4 hours ago, heavy_hitter said:

Drop the player?  Several tours penalize the entire group, not the individual.  Moving on the kids will risk a penalty in themselves for letting the other player get out of place.  This is honestly not an option for anyone.

 

The entire group should not be penalized if one person in the group is causing the delay.   My son once got paired with a kid who shot 72 over.  That's 72+72 = 144 for 18 holes...  With three officials following our group after the 2nd hole, I told my son and the others to just move on and "drop the kid".   Probably the only reason we finished before nightfall.  


I'd be pretty upset, and I would complain to the tour organizer if an entire group got penalized just cuz some kid had bad mexican food for dinner.  

From AJGA https://www.ajga.org/news/setting-the-pace-rarity-of-the-double-red-card

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 Also, it is a common misconception that if a penalty is being assessed, the entire group must be penalized. If when taking player times, an individual player has consistent bad times (those over 45 seconds once it is that player’s turn to play) and the others in the group do not have any – then that penalty can be assessed to just THAT individual. Similarly, once a player has more than three bad times, he/she is subject to that penalty without question or inclusion of the rest of the group.

 

From US Kids : https://tournaments.uskidsgolf.com/sites/default/files/uskg_pace_of_play_policy_1.pdf

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e. The rules official will also begin timing each player, to determine if one or multiple players are slowing down the group. Please note, players must take no longer than 40 seconds to hit a shot, including any preshot routine (i.e. measuring distance/practice swings). If there are any issues in your group or circumstances that may lead to poor pace of play times, please notify a rules official as soon as possible. It is the goal of the Committee not penalize the entire group, but rather determine to which player the penalty would be assessed.

 

From JTNC(Our NorCal junior tournament): https://jtnc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/2021-JTNC-PACE-OF-PLAY-POLICY.pdf

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The Committee may also monitor a group that is failing to play within the maximum allowable time, whether or not a player has requested it. If the Committee identifies that a player(s) in the group is the cause of the group failing to maintain pace of play and determines other players are playing within the requirements of this policy, those meeting the requirements of this policy may be absolved from penalty while others may not.

 

 

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