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19 hours ago, Shilgy said:

I asked him the same thing Wednesday….he must be related to Greg….just spews whatever sounds good for their exhibition “tour”.


LIV Adelaide is their most successful event 

 

Norman is Australian and a highly successful developer of golf course estates 

 

Australia has a massive shortage of housing and golf courses 

 

Not rocket science

 

Btw, potential buyers don’t take out ads 🤣

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1 hour ago, tomjas said:


LIV Adelaide is their most successful event 

 

Norman is Australian and a highly successful developer of golf course estates 

 

Australia has a massive shortage of housing and golf courses 

 

Not rocket science

 

Btw, potential buyers don’t take out ads 🤣

So still nothing to show us?  Fair enough.

 

Greg may be “highly successful” in Australia but not here in Phoenix.  He designed the high end club Mirabel originally as a daily fee course with, cough cough, 45 acres of grass. Entire course was redone and is now the private club …and playable.

https://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/gcnew/article/2001sep11b.pdf
 

Also,  it was intended for Norman to design a second course at Quintero…that it never happened is not entirely his fault but the “name” did nothing to attract more members.

 

Point being a “massive shortage of housing and golf courses” does not necessarily mean Norman is the savior.

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1 hour ago, Shilgy said:

So still nothing to show us?  Fair enough.

 

Greg may be “highly successful” in Australia but not here in Phoenix.  He designed the high end club Mirabel originally as a daily fee course with, cough cough, 45 acres of grass. Entire course was redone and is now the private club …and playable.

https://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/gcnew/article/2001sep11b.pdf
 

Also,  it was intended for Norman to design a second course at Quintero…that it never happened is not entirely his fault but the “name” did nothing to attract more members.

 

Point being a “massive shortage of housing and golf courses” does not necessarily mean Norman is the savior.


Who said anything about him being a saviour?

 

Australia needs millions of new houses immediately and many new courses so anything LIV does will be a drop in the ocean 

 

It’s a business opportunity & he’s a golf course developer 

 

 

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5 hours ago, tomjas said:


Fact

 

I own a golf course and was approached 

 

 

 

Miniature Golf Course doesn't count.

 

1 hour ago, Archimedes65 said:

 

It’s their only ‘successful’ event, and only in terms of getting some fans to the course.  And LIV still loses money on that event, just like they do on every other event they put on.

 

beat me to it... 🤣

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2 hours ago, tomjas said:


Who said anything about him being a saviour?

 

Australia needs millions of new houses immediately and many new courses so anything LIV does will be a drop in the ocean 

 

It’s a business opportunity & he’s a golf course developer 

 

 

Not sure what a few golf courses does to create millions of houses but I’d still like to see some links to these homes and courses Greg is building.

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6 hours ago, Shilgy said:

Not sure what a few golf courses does to create millions of houses but I’d still like to see some links to these homes and courses Greg is building.


Golf courses are generally the centrepiece of large scale developments

 

Very few courses are built as stand alone projects because virtually all lose money 

 

This is an Australian development with a Norman course 

 

https://www.pelicanwaters.com/

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8 hours ago, idrive said:

 

 

Not sure how a development that's 35 years in the making is helping Oz build "millions of new houses immediately".

 

Greg designed the golf course. Has nothing to do with the development of the project. I'd venture a guess it wouldn't have mattered who designed the golf course.


Norman has designed 100+ courses and that’s 1 example I randomly picked 

 

Feel free to pick another 

 

http://www.gngcd.com/courses/

 

If it didn’t matter who designed the course then why do Norman, Nicklaus, etc  get paid to do it?

 

 

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3 hours ago, tomjas said:


Golf courses are generally the centrepiece of large scale developments

 

Very few courses are built as stand alone projects because virtually all lose money 

 

This is an Australian development with a Norman course 

 

https://www.pelicanwaters.com/

Cool…the best example is a 35 year old development?  That’s 7years before the Masters flop.  

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Is our perception of LIV being molded by The Golf Channel? My thoughts are starting to turn that way. Never really gave LIV the chance because I was getting my golf news from a corporate entity that whole existence is based on a strong PGA Tour. Besides now BC is speaking like the money from the Saudis to the Tour is now okay. Think I’ll start watching LIV to give it a chance. 

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47 minutes ago, NetBogey said:

The explanation on how he was in the field is explained in the article you linked. 

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10 hours ago, bcjim said:


It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

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21 minutes ago, tomjas said:


It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

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31 minutes ago, tomjas said:


It’s common knowledge that the Saudi economy isn’t in great shape and hasn’t been for years plus those giga projects have always been massive black holes 

 

Abu Dhabi could afford to build a giga project on Yas Island because they’re just as rich but only need to support 550k citizens while there’s 37 million Saudis looking for a better lifestyle 

 

And that’s without considering the respective attractiveness of the 2 as destinations

If it's common knowledge that the economy isn't great, is giving Jon Rahm 500 million a good idea?

 

Abu Dhabi is as irrelevant as Monaco.

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