Am I getting the lead shoulder off the chin properly

[Trippels]

Main issue with swing for a ong time has been trailing arms, arms getting pinned. Main thing to work on has been getting the lead shoulder off the chin in the dowswing, to get the lead arm off the chest and the arms in sync with the turn.

Left side feels haven't worked well, but in these swings I'm just trying to get the trail shoulder working to the ball and down the target line, and I think it looks a bit better. Is the lead shoulder working off the chin enough here?

[Trippels]

Slow mo:

 

 

[golfarb1]

Backswing -too much pelvis rotation caused by trail leg being too straight . Trail leg should straighten to a degree going back , but not the point of being straight 

Downswing-pivot stall at impact with both your pelvis and shoulders barely open , along with a disconnection ( straightening ) of trail arm resulting in little right lateral bend . To improve your downswing you need to start your transition from the ground up via external left hip rotation . This translates to starting your transition by pressuring the outside of your lead foot. This will cause your lead knee to rotate towards the target . 
Flaring your lead foot  more towards the target will encourage external left hip rotation . 

[kobe123]

I’m working on same thing. I’ve struggled for years and can get separation. I’d love to hear others drills. 
 

What I have been doing is putting a tee in my mouth and trying to not let it rotate in transition.

[MK7Golf21]

have any still's of pro's who do what you are trying to accomplish?

[Trippels]

7 hours ago, MK7Golf21 said:

have any still's of pro's who do what you are trying to accomplish?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ccf2l3ZlGIz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[MK7Golf21]

4 hours ago, Trippels said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ccf2l3ZlGIz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

then I would say sure but you have some other major flaws going on, particularly that Dtl pic someone posted above. 

[golfarb1]

6 hours ago, Trippels said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ccf2l3ZlGIz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Your concern about separating the chin is completely misplaced . Your primary issue as I stated before is failure to initiate your transition via using the ground. Separating your lead shoulder from your chin will come automatically . You would benefit from Jack Nicklaus suggestion to feel that the “downswing is initiated by the feet and legs”.
Notice the difference between your transition and those golfers above .Their lead knee and pelvis is far more active in the early downswing than yours 

Edited August 10, 2022 by golfarb1

[kobe123]

17 hours ago, golfarb1 said:

Your concern about separating the chin is completely misplaced . Your primary issue as I stated before is failure to initiate your transition via using the ground. Separating your lead shoulder from your chin will come automatically . You would benefit from Jack Nicklaus suggestion to feel that the “downswing is initiated by the feet and legs”.
Notice the difference between your transition and those golfers above .Their lead knee and pelvis is far more active in the early downswing than yours 

 

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This is where I disagree. I have pretty good ground force movements, yet my chin sticks to my left shoulder. 

[golfarb1]

You need to look at your left hip and knee movements in transition . Your pelvis position at impact ( square ) is a direct result of your transition . Look at the stills of Moe Norman below , specifically the differences in the position of his  knees between the top of his swing and 9:00 ( end of transition )and compare it to your position  at the end of transition .The middle of his left knee has moved from directly under his left hip and visibly inside his left foot to over directly over his left foot. His left thigh has increased its angle and the distance between his knees has increased -all because of his left hip rotation in transition .This is what you need to be doing in transition . Has his chin separated from his shoulder ?

Edited August 10, 2022 by golfarb1

[CSagan]

Agree with some above. You need to pair all that up with some lower body rotation. Just from the top feel your left shoulder/arms/hips all come through together. Kind of overdoing the arm swing deal. Need the rest of the engine firing.

[CSagan]

and I do think your swing is pretty close to being money. Load up a big turn and unwind that thing.

[MK7Golf21]

1 hour ago, kobe123 said:

 

This is where I disagree. I have pretty good ground force movements, yet my chin sticks to my left shoulder. 

yours is an easy fix

[kobe123]

13 hours ago, MK7Golf21 said:

yours is an easy fix

Okay, what's the fix then?

[golfarb1]

The movement that Moe Norman demonstrates in transition is the very heart of athleticism in the golf swing .

it deserves greater description 

a. It is dominated by lead  hip external rotation , which will automatically rotate the lead knee toward the target 

b. It moves the pelvis towards the target as the lead hip abducts -moves toward the target . 

c . it results in more weight placed on the lead foot . Golfers who fail to weight their lead foot in transition will be forced to rotate around their  trail foot SPiN

d. Outside of lead hip approaches but rarely   moves past the outside of the lead  foot , while .lead  knee sometimes moves beyond the outside of the lead foot . 

e. It is a lead sided action . The trail side will  fire and will 

be the dominant side  but not until after transition ( right still) 

f. Some rotation of the ribcage has happened-but most of this rotation comes  later 

g. It marks ( right still) the end of lateral motion in the downswing . Any further lateral motion will just diminish the more powerful and important rotation . Note that lateral movement in transition is completely separate from the lateral motion of the sacrum toward the target at the end of the backswing . 

 

 

 

 

 

. It may be easy for some , but for most it will be anything but easy and will be an unattainable goal

Edited August 11, 2022 by golfarb1