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I moved away from C-Taper in my 2 iron because of the tip bending issue. Well, I was hitting my deuce so squirrelly yesterday that I gave it a long, hard look on the 16th tee. And there is was, a pretty brutal ferrule separation on one side. Pulled the shaft and there you go. 

PX 7.0

Canadian - so plenty of mats throughout the year, but especially winter

High SS player. I guess you can bend any of 'em.

 

 

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As you stated, the combo of mats and high ss will do it.  One of my clients I train who plays on the Mackenzie Tour also had the same problem but it was with the C-tapers.  He's replaced 3 shafts so far. 

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8 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

Time to try an X7 in there

Any shaft will do the same thing if you combo a swing speed high enough for 7.0s and extended use on mats

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31 minutes ago, sg91 said:

Any shaft will do the same thing if you combo a swing speed high enough for 7.0s and extended use on mats

So my next question is how long is a graphite gonna last in that club…

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15 minutes ago, The Mad Bomber said:

So my next question is how long is a graphite gonna last in that club…

Possibly longer than steel even at high ss.  My old irons had the Recoil Protos in them and the 4 iron started to show cracks right above the hosel after 8 years.  At the time my ss was 122 with driver. 

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4 hours ago, The Mad Bomber said:

...Canadian


Found the problem. 

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2 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

As you stated, the combo of mats and high ss will do it.  One of my clients I train who plays on the Mackenzie Tour also had the same problem but it was with the C-tapers.  He's replaced 3 shafts so far. 

I bent all my C-taper130s. But I BROKE three of them. 4i, 6i, PW. (To be fair, I beat them to death. I took all the bent shafts and re-oriented them to use that bend for a flatter lie. So I was basically doing the paperclip back-and-forth trick. It was only a matter of time.)

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2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

Time to try an X7 in there

Love the X7 in a long iron especially.

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42 minutes ago, Cwebb said:

Dynamic Golds have the thickest wall diameter at the tip

I just don’t care for the DG feel. I grew up on them, played X100 for years (I’m 43 now so that’s really all there was) but just prefer just about anything else to DG or the Nippon stuff. I guess I’ll just go graphite.

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5 hours ago, Cwebb said:

Dynamic Golds have the thickest wall diameter at the tip

Physics is still physics. Slam steel into a hard, unforgiving surface enough times with enough speed and it will bend.

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I had a long drive guy come through my shop, 115-120mph with a 6i kind of speed.  He bent all of the tips on his PX 7.0 irons in about a month because he practiced exclusively off of mats.  Last I saw of him he posted a screenshot on Instagram of getting fit by some other fitting studio out near where he lives and they had him in KBS TGI 110 and he was pretty pumped about it.  They must have tipped the ever loving bejeezus out of them as I can't imagine those could get anywhere near the same stability as a 7.0 or X7 (the two he was equally good with but the PX had slightly better accuracy).

 

A good example though, is if you look at Bryson, he uses graphite.  So maybe there is something to it, who knows.

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11 minutes ago, WristySwing said:

I had a long drive guy come through my shop, 115-120mph with a 6i kind of speed.  He bent all of the tips on his PX 7.0 irons in about a month because he practiced exclusively off of mats.  Last I saw of him he posted a screenshot on Instagram of getting fit by some other fitting studio out near where he lives and they had him in KBS TGI 110 and he was pretty pumped about it.  They must have tipped the ever loving bejeezus out of them as I can't imagine those could get anywhere near the same stability as a 7.0 or X7 (the two he was equally good with but the PX had slightly better accuracy).

 

A good example though, is if you look at Bryson, he uses graphite.  So maybe there is something to it, who knows.

He probably exclusively hits off grass though.  Not too many private cc that use mats. 

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1 hour ago, ezpz said:

Just don't hit off mats if you're very quick. A friend of mine broke 2 3-woods that way. Probably his irons are oging to give out at some point too.

So don’t practice then? Checks out…

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6 minutes ago, ezpz said:

hit off grass, practice on the course or resort to hitting much slower on mats?

Very few courses have grass range.  I would say the ratio is 70% mats to 30% grass.   

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Just now, phizzy30 said:

Very few courses have grass range.  I would say the ratio is 70% mats to 30% grass.   

In January in Calgary, 100% of hittable areas are mats lol.

 

My only real point to this post was that there was a thread that was all about how the C-Tapers were bending (which they do) but it was brought up that DG, PX or Modus don’t do that. I’m here to say - the hell they don’t. All steel shafts will bend over time with some speed

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10 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

Very few courses have grass range.  I would say the ratio is 70% mats to 30% grass.   

What I was just trying to say was: If your priority is not breaking clubs, which happens with the combo of speed + htiting down + lots of trainnig off mats your options to practice are limited unless you order like an extra spare 7 iron to pratice with or something.

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3 hours ago, The Mad Bomber said:

In January in Calgary, 100% of hittable areas are mats lol.

 

My only real point to this post was that there was a thread that was all about how the C-Tapers were bending (which they do) but it was brought up that DG, PX or Modus don’t do that. I’m here to say - the hell they don’t. All steel shafts will bend over time with some speed

 

3 hours ago, ezpz said:

What I was just trying to say was: If your priority is not breaking clubs, which happens with the combo of speed + htiting down + lots of trainnig off mats your options to practice are limited unless you order like an extra spare 7 iron to pratice with or something.

Yeah, this thread got way off track. 

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23 hours ago, The Mad Bomber said:

In January in Calgary, 100% of hittable areas are mats lol.

 

My only real point to this post was that there was a thread that was all about how the C-Tapers were bending (which they do) but it was brought up that DG, PX or Modus don’t do that. I’m here to say - the hell they don’t. All steel shafts will bend over time with some speed

 

Have we seen any pictures of a DG X7 with a bent tip?  We've seen the others

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On 8/13/2022 at 1:42 PM, Cwebb said:

 

Have we seen any pictures of a DG X7 with a bent tip?  We've seen the others

Great question

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