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This discussion takes me back to when I used to ‘have to’ play blades, many years ago, pre launch monitors and the tech we now take for granted. I was playing a couple of my friends and one of them, who is a club pro, was using old Mizuno forged cavities. 
 

It irritated him that I might be playing clubs because they ‘looked good in the bag’, so he asked why I still tried to use them. I said because I hit it too high, got too much spin, etc, etc. 

 

He stopped, put his bag down exasperatedly, and gave me a few quick tips which brought my ball flight way down and produced a much better trajectory. We stuck a few balls down in the semi and I hit them with his 5 iron and it was a lightbulb moment. Bought a set of Callaway just after.
 

Many of us (not all) would get far better results from some lessons and putting something a bit more forgiving in the bag. All depends whether you’d rather have nice equipment or nice scores, and there’s nothing wrong with either way. I’m a hacker now so I might just buy blades for fun!

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I play my old blades, they’re from the 80s, with some great success. I’ve also had good rounds with SGI. I currently have new Cobras in  the corner of the garage but I’m bagging the ole trusty blades. “FOR ME”, it’s a few different things as to why I play the blades. 
1. Directional miss

2. Confidence in the club

3. Turf interaction 

4.Focus on the strike more 

5. Directional miss is more manageable and I’ve got total confidence in the irons. 

6. I downright know what I’ll get out of each iron when I address the golf ball.

7. FOR ME, they just flat out work.

I play with a group of retired guys regularly 3 days a week and several, one whom owned a local golf shop for years, says I hit the ole blades better than anything they’ve seen me play. Somewhat of a mystery but why fight it if it’s working! I’ve played numerous sets and spent thousands of dollars to always put the old trusty blades back in the bag. They’re W/S FG17s in case you’re wondering. Love them. I don’t play sanctioned competition golf but if I did, I hunt for a clubhead with very similar characteristics as my 17s. To each his own as the old saying goes. It’s an argument that’ll never be win or settled I know, as each players mind and game will vary. Yes,  I like to look at the WITB photos weekly on here but could really care less what so and so is playing. It’s likely IF you see something you like it’s unobtainable to the public anyways. Wanna see someone that’s playing what works, watch the video of Scott Stallings explain his iron set. Now if I really cared what so and do was playing, I’d focus on the Seniors because they’re playing what actually works. Not the latest and greatest, although some do here and there. Have a great day gents and hit ‘em straight! 

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26 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

Blades become an advantage when a player has a tighter dispersion with them when compared to other club designs. 

I’m not sure just how many people would have that result. As soon as you mishit a blade, even slightly, it ruins your dispersion pattern. Even if the ‘hot spot’ was a thing, I’d wager most people on this board would have a tighter dispersion pattern with a hollow iron than a blade. 

When people accepted that, but told me blades would allow them to work the ball better, they invariably couldn’t work it with any level of consistency with any type/design of club. When they tried to work it their strike quality declined.

 

I met a few guys who could work it well - elite amateurs, Walker Cup players - but they all wanted cavities. One of the Walker Cup guys played a round with Monty and said that he’d personally overestimated how important working the ball was as Monty just played a 3-yard fade with every shot, into every hole, while he was trying to do all sorts. He was off +4 and Monty beat him by 7 😄

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I don't feel they give me an advantage. I like the feedback I get, good and bad so I know what I did right or wrong. Are my scores better or worse playing blades? No idea, but I certainly enjoy it more and isn't that the point of playing? 

 

My brief time playing the Takomo 101's taught me that.

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21 minutes ago, MtlJeff said:

 

I guess i don't really disagree with anything you are saying, i just don't know if that is where these myths come from. Maybe it is. The stories always seem so implausable

 

But sure, if you pick clubs that aren't really optimal you can get exaggerated and inconsistent results. A great example of this might be the old BiMatrix shafts that guys like Bubba used but were borderline unplayable for an average person. If you struck it perfect on the nut with all of your gusto, you could get it out there but most shots would be wounded ducks that didn't get enough carry.

 

Picking irons that don't spin enough isn't a good idea for a number of reasons. I think any good player could think right now of a time they hit a ball 20yds longer out of the rough because there was a grass behind the ball etc. Likely the ball bounced like it was on a tarmac when it landed

 

I've just never thought of this as issues with the club. It's just launch conditions that players need to be aware of that can happen.

 

I also think if you really struggle to a specific clubhead, shafts can help as much as a new clubhead. And if you can't spin an SGI enough even with a spinny shaft--Golf might just always be tough for that person unfortunately

 

 

 

I am in agreement with you that it is not the clubs and you are completely right it's the launch conditions. IMO it's generally an element of a bad fitting, a bit of ego, or a swing with a wide range in speed, potentially all 3 in some instances. 

 

Throw in an extra 5mph swing speed with the wrong strike with a club that already doesn't spin enough and bad things are going to happen. Down wind it's like adding steroids. On top of that add a bit of obliviousness and you get the comment  of " I hit my wedge 180 on the fly". 

 

At that point you and I would probably think something is wrong and a change of equipment is needed as that is completely pointless.  

 

Again, generally though, I think it is really mostly an issue for the lower spin players and not something high spin people experience, that's a different animal. All the marketing is about low spin though these days. 

 

 

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21 hours ago, WristySwing said:

 

I I was coming out of rough and the ball was effectively tee'd up netting a very clean, zero resistance strike.

 

This is the definition of a flier in my book.  I've hit them with GI and blades.  Add in some grass between the ball to kill the spin and you've got a 15 yard flier.

 

I'm not sure playing blades are ever really an advantage - outside of the top players who prefer them.  Conversely, I haven't found a disadvantage since I switched back from GI irons to blades.  I very much prefer hitting my MP20s over my old Ping G series irons.  This in turn has me practicing far more.  I get an optimal ball flight out of my MB's and tolerate the punishment just fine.

 

I think these conversations always go off the deep end because playing blades is illogical and SGI irons make some feel inadequate.  Play with whatever suits you.  You can score well or poorly with any flavor of iron. 

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6 minutes ago, Wayside said:

I’m not sure just how many people would have that result. As soon as you mishit a blade, even slightly, it ruins your dispersion pattern. Even if the ‘hot spot’ was a thing, I’d wager most people on this board would have a tighter dispersion pattern with a hollow iron than a blade. 

When people accepted that, but told me blades would allow them to work the ball better, they invariably couldn’t work it with any level of consistency with any type/design of club. When they tried to work it their strike quality declined.

 

I met a few guys who could work it well - elite amateurs, Walker Cup players - but they all wanted cavities. One of the Walker Cup guys played a round with Monty and said that he’d personally overestimated how important working the ball was as Monty just played a 3-yard fade with every shot, into every hole, while he was trying to do all sorts. He was off +4 and Monty beat him by 7 😄

is your highest lofted club in your bag a cavity back or blade design?

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9 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

is your highest lofted club in your bag a cavity back or blade design?

It’s a blade, and I can accept the smaller trade off with such a short club. If I could find a cavity LW I liked, I’d happily put it in the bag and have done in the past. Unfortunately there’s not as much choice as there is in irons. 
 

I presume there’s a reason for you asking? I said above and in other threads that I may buy blades myself as I’m not ‘against’ them, I’m just aware of their/my limitations. 

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I play blades. I probably shouldn't. But I dont care. I like them, and so far I have not seen that they "hurt" my score. 

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I've always found that MBs and Player's CBs basically do the same thing. The blade looks cooler. The dampening effect of the perimeter-weighting on a Player's CB offers an improved feel on mis-hits. 

 

There's no scoring advantage to either though. Maybe the marginally-wider sole of the CB (depending on model of course) might help keep a few diggers out of the ground a little better. 

 

 

The reason these threads are long is that everyone has a different answer...which proves my point. There's no proof blades make you more accurate or that CBs make you more consistent. 

 

The only difference is in how a perimeter-weighted club resonates / feels and whether a player values the look, feel and prestige of using a blade, which in past decades has been a mark of quality, both in the player and in the club. 

 

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26 minutes ago, MattC555 said:

 

This is the definition of a flier in my book.  I've hit them with GI and blades.  Add in some grass between the ball to kill the spin and you've got a 15 yard flier.

 

I'm not sure playing blades are ever really an advantage - outside of the top players who prefer them.  Conversely, I haven't found a disadvantage since I switched back from GI irons to blades.  I very much prefer hitting my MP20s over my old Ping G series irons.  This in turn has me practicing far more.  I get an optimal ball flight out of my MB's and tolerate the punishment just fine.

 

I think these conversations always go off the deep end because playing blades is illogical and SGI irons make some feel inadequate.  Play with whatever suits you.  You can score well or poorly with any flavor of iron. 

Your last sentence hits the nail on the head 100%! Plain and simple truth. 

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On 9/10/2022 at 7:26 PM, Asiangolfer1995 said:

It's mostly personal preference at this point, but for most of the blade users I've played with they want their mishits coming up short of target instead of flying 3-5 yards longer so they know what a true 'miss' feels like so they can work on it in practice to hit the center more.

dont want to feel mishits for leaving short, I want to leave it short only for a miss, blades leave things short and on line perfect for the courses I play, other bigger iron misses are directional which get me in trouble, short doesnt, wide right or left does

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On 9/10/2022 at 4:56 PM, Douglsss said:

Hypothetically speaking

 

All things being equal - loft, lie, etc - If I have a level of ballstriking to where playing blades vs player distance vs GI irons clubs each have similar average distances, why wouldn’t you play blades?

 

IMO - easier to work multiple trajectories, easier to remove spin, better consistency( no hot faces ). 
 

Another argument could be made that in this scenario - what are you losing in the scoring clubs, say 8i - pw, by not using a bladed club?

 

To answer your actual question, one needs to identify where blades are different from other clubs. 

 

One area blades are definitely unique is that they always have the most narrow sole. For some players, especially those with a lot of speed and with a sweeping action, the narrow sole slices nicely through that top layer of grass and really allows a player to feel they're striking the ball more precisely than a club they feel has to be smashed into the earth aggressively to get the CG effectively behind/under the ball. To some players, it's just better to have a small club that doesn't urge you to smash downward and steepen the AoA. 

 

That's the practical difference. There are however, a couple other features people like. And these shouldn't be discounted.

 

Do they look better? To many golfers, this is a serious benefit and a differentiating feature. If you can play any iron competently, why not play the one that looks the sexiest? 

 

Do they feel better? While Player's CBs have basically caught up in feeling soft and pure on good strikes, there's no debating that a purely-struck blade is the standard by which all clubs are judged. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Wayside said:

It’s a blade, and I can accept the smaller trade off with such a short club. If I could find a cavity LW I liked, I’d happily put it in the bag and have done in the past. Unfortunately there’s not as much choice as there is in irons. 
 

I presume there’s a reason for you asking? I said above and in other threads that I may buy blades myself as I’m not ‘against’ them, I’m just aware of their/my limitations. 

I was asking because I don’t think a lot of people realize how popular blades are once you get above 50°. I can’t think of anyone on the PGA Tour or LIV Tour that plays a hollow design or cavity back design once they get over 50°. Retail sales would suggest the same. The most sold style of club design once you get over 50° is a blade. 
 

If cavity back or hollow club designs were unequivocally better, it would also be true for higher lofted clubs. So why is a blade design so popular for clubs with 50° of loft or more? There must be some advantage. And ultimately that’s the answer to the OPs question. 

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13 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

I was asking because I don’t think a lot of people realize how popular blades are once you get above 50°. I can’t think of anyone on the PGA Tour or LIV Tour that plays a hollow design or cavity back design once they get over 50°. Retail sales would suggest the same. The most sold style of club design once you get over 50° is a blade. 
 

If cavity back or hollow club designs were unequivocally better, it would also be true for higher lofted clubs. So why is a blade design so popular for clubs with 50° of loft or more? There must be some advantage. And ultimately that’s the answer to the OPs question. 

 

You didn't look very hard then.  Almost every Ping Tour Staffer using the Glide 4.0 to at least the SW, which is a hollow-design, filled cavity.  Even Oosthuizen and Finau, who are mega traditional in their irons use these over the "blade" Glide Pro.  https://ping.com/en-us/pros/pga-tour

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18 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

 

If cavity back or hollow club designs were unequivocally better, it would also be true for higher lofted clubs. So why is a blade design so popular for clubs with 50° of loft or more? There must be some advantage.

 

You mean wedges. Call them wedges. Players who do use them, not all do as @WristySwing just pointed out, want exact yardages with them. Wedge shots tend to be more controlled, easier swings, therefore strike isn't likely to suffer and they're going to generate more spin and hit the exact distance needed on the shot.

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On 9/10/2022 at 9:46 PM, MtlJeff said:

 

40yd fliers are not real. I'm sorry but they are not real.

 

This thread is silly

 

 

I'd add the clarification that 40 yard fliers *caused by your choice of gear* aren't real. 

 

Moisture/dryness, the condition of your lie, the quality of contact and the direction of the wind can all be factors, but I'm betting that any 40 yard flier with a "hot" iron would have been a 35 yard flyer with a traditional iron. 

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24 minutes ago, Llortamaisey said:

I was asking because I don’t think a lot of people realize how popular blades are once you get above 50°. I can’t think of anyone on the PGA Tour or LIV Tour that plays a hollow design or cavity back design once they get over 50°. Retail sales would suggest the same. The most sold style of club design once you get over 50° is a blade. 
 

If cavity back or hollow club designs were unequivocally better, it would also be true for higher lofted clubs. So why is a blade design so popular for clubs with 50° of loft or more? There must be some advantage. And ultimately that’s the answer to the OPs question. 

I get what you mean, but I took it that the discussion was more about sets/irons in particular. 
 

Also, the disadvantages to blades are a lot less pronounced when you get to wedges due to more loft, shorter shafts, easier swings. The advantages outweigh that for many. 
 

There’s in no unequivocally better club for anyone, they all have trade-offs. 

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On 9/10/2022 at 5:59 PM, OnTheBag said:

I've played blades for over 50 years and doubt there is very much advantage in today's equipment, with one exception.  If you pick the ball, the thin sole and lower sweet spot are advantageous.  As someone who struggles to trap and compress, I often can't hit the sweet spot on cavity backs or larger headed irons.  MB's traditionally have a lower spot that is easier for me to connect with.  

 

Aside from that, maybe some minute advantages in shot shaping, but that would be only in the hands of the greatest ball strikers.  

 

 

Yep I am an old school trap and compress player too. Modern CBs with the bounce rounded soles on normal ground I have a tendency to bounce blade one. I even take divots with fairway woods to some extent. To be completely fair even in the old days I could bounce blade a Wilson X-31 or a Hogan Radial too. Lately for me it has been hell because we have had so much rain here and it is so wet so a digger like me hits a lot of pop up fat shots

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On 9/10/2022 at 7:40 PM, chisag said:

... MB threads here are like playing Whack A Mole. As soon as you smack one down another appears. There is a reason most of the best players on the planet are using Players Irons. Not GI/Distance/MB's but an iron that gives them the benefits of an MB when hitting the center and just enough added forgiveness when they miss a little. But many here just love the idea of playing MB's and nothing wrong with that. 

Yep you are correct on two fronts--- Yep darn near every week it popps up sorta like:deadhorse: and some of us like playing MBs and like you said there is absolutely nothing wrong with which ever way one goes

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34 minutes ago, WristySwing said:

 

You didn't look very hard then.  Almost every Ping Tour Staffer using the Glide 4.0 to at least the SW, which is a hollow-design, filled cavity.  Even Oosthuizen and Finau, who are mega traditional in their irons use these over the "blade" Glide Pro.  https://ping.com/en-us/pros/pga-tour

Thanks. I knew there had to be a a couple. Should’ve known it would be ping staffers. 

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33 minutes ago, BraxtonFullerton said:

 

You mean wedges. Call them wedges. Players who do use them, not all do as @WristySwing just pointed out, want exact yardages with them. Wedge shots tend to be more controlled, easier swings, therefore strike isn't likely to suffer and they're going to generate more spin and hit the exact distance needed on the shot.

Great answer. That sounds like the advantage of a blade design. 

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2 hours ago, BIG STU said:

Lately for me it has been hell because we have had so much rain here and it is so wet so a digger like me hits a lot of pop up fat shots

 

We had 2 really wet summers in a row when I got into playing 3x a week as a teen, so I'm now very much a sweeper of the ball. I still hate fat soled clubs to this day.

 

1 hour ago, BombinJim said:

When your swing characteristics benefit from heel biased sweet spot, thinner sole, weaker lofts, and the smaller/less offset club appeals to your eye at address. Also if you have a high swing speed and deloft the club significantly. Also if you want to count on your mishits going short for your course management strategy.

 

This is my strategy. I am nowhere near the handicap to be playing player CB irons, but I do like some shot shaping and a predictable miss of being short.

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2 hours ago, me05501 said:

Players who benefit from blades seem to be the same ones who don't always try to hit their irons for maximum distance. 

 

Tons of players will stretch a nine iron to 150 just because they can. Another kind of player would rather hit a controlled seven iron because it's an easier and more controllable shot. 

 

It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. Committing to less-forgiving irons can help you play smarter. Playing smart makes less-forgiving irons less intimidating. 

 

One of my favorite clubs is my Srixon Z785 gap wedge which is a muscle-back design. I think the reason I hit so many good shots with it is because rarely try to hit it for maximum distance. 

 

Great observation that I had never thought of, but is very true.  

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3 hours ago, Llortamaisey said:

I was asking because I don’t think a lot of people realize how popular blades are once you get above 50°. I can’t think of anyone on the PGA Tour or LIV Tour that plays a hollow design or cavity back design once they get over 50°. Retail sales would suggest the same. The most sold style of club design once you get over 50° is a blade. 
 

If cavity back or hollow club designs were unequivocally better, it would also be true for higher lofted clubs. So why is a blade design so popular for clubs with 50° of loft or more? There must be some advantage. And ultimately that’s the answer to the OPs question. 


Bingo. And the fact its been mentioned that ping makes a hollow wedge and even some ping staffers use it means zilch. When it comes to wedges, club design means nearly nothing, blade, cb, hollow…. Because the ball is not compressing, loft has such a dominant role. Even further most hollow sets or even cbs, basically begin to resemble a blade at about a 8 or 9 iron. From long irons to about 7 iron or 35* of loft is where you start to see some differences from club design.

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, MelloYello said:

I've always found that MBs and Player's CBs basically do the same thing. The blade looks cooler. The dampening effect of the perimeter-weighting on a Player's CB offers an improved feel on mis-hits. 

 

There's no scoring advantage to either though. Maybe the marginally-wider sole of the CB (depending on model of course) might help keep a few diggers out of the ground a little better. 

 

 

The reason these threads are long is that everyone has a different answer...which proves my point. There's no proof blades make you more accurate or that CBs make you more consistent. 

 

The only difference is in how a perimeter-weighted club resonates / feels and whether a player values the look, feel and prestige of using a blade, which in past decades has been a mark of quality, both in the player and in the club. 

 

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Yes. This discussion is so hard because there are so many nuances with club design. You can make a blade that has a relatively large blade length and face area, with low cog. You can also make a cb that is super compact and have a much higher cog. 

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      2022 Fortinet Championship - Monday #2
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Monday #3
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Monday #4
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Monday #5
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Tuesday #1
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Tuesday #2
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Tuesday #3
      2022 Fortinet Championship - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
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      Augusto Nunez - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Harry Hall - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Kevin Roy - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Philip Knowles - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Harrison Endycott - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Byeong Hun An - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Tano Goya - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Alex Lee - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Jimmy Walker - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Rickie Fowler - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Beau Hossler - WITB - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Ryan Moore WITB – 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Zecheng "Marty" Dou WITB – 2022 Fortinet Championship
      S.H. (Seong-hyeong) Kim WITB – 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Vincent Norrman WITB – 2022 Fortinet Championship
       
       
       
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      Kramer Hickok’s custom Cameron putter - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      New Odyssey putter covers - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Kevin Tway's new Wilson Dynapwr driver - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Rickie Fowler with new Cobra King Tour irons - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Rickie Fowler, Ryan Brehm & Doug Ghim - Cameron putters - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Ping PLD putters - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Greyson Sigg - new Mizuno JPX 923 Tour irons - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Srixon MKII X5 & X7 drivers - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Fujikura Ventus Black TR and Red TR shafts - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Tyson Alexander's custom Cameron putter - 2022 Fortinet Championship
      Hideki Matsuyama's new Srixon ZX5 MKII LS driver (and putting drill) – 2022 Fortinet Championship
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions) - Discussion and Links
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      2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions) - Tuesday #1
      2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions) - Tuesday #2
      2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions) - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ken Duke - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Jay Haas - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      David McKenzie - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Scott McCarron - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Brett Quigley - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Tim Petrovic - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Dickey Pride - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
      Tim O'Neal - WITB 2022 Ascension Charity Classic (PGA Tour Champions)
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship - Discussion and Links
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      2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship - Monday #1
      2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship - Monday #2
      2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship - Monday #3
       
       
       
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      Jeff Overton - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Kevin Yu - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Carson Young - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Shawn Stefani - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Pontus Nyholm - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Jeremy Paul - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Andrew Kozan - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Jose De Jesus Rodriguez - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      MJ Daffue - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
      Trevor Werbylo - WITB - 2022 Korn Ferry Tour Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2022 Tour Championship - Discussion and Links
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      2022 Tour Championship - Tuesday #1
      2022 Tour Championship - Tuesday #2
      2022 Tour Championship - Tuesday #3
      2022 Tour Championship - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
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      Sam Burns - WITB - 2022 Tour Championship
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2022 Tour Championship
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2022 Tour Championship
       
       
       
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      Odyssey prototype putter - 2022 Tour Championship
      Odyssey putters - 2022 Tour Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
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