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To the OP I’d take a look at the hosel settings or try another head if you’re seeing left bias in the Rogue ST MAX LS. I fade or draw it with ease, no worries of hooking it. Callaway says on their site it is neutral and offers the standard Rogue ST MAX as draw biased. Mine sets up square. 

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22 hours ago, realitycheck said:

Hit it the other day.  It was good.....but truth be told, I couldn't tell much difference between Tsi and the Tsr and I had both heads with me.  Any improvement (for me) was hardly noticeable.  Shape is better, I think?

 

YMMV

Did you just “hit” it or go through an actual fitting.  There’s a big difference in results. 

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52 minutes ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

Did you just “hit” it or go through an actual fitting.  There’s a big difference in results. 

No sir, I did not go through a fitting.  Spent some time with it between fittings at our shop. 

Couple of different shaft combos. 

Just initial impressions, certainly not intended to make it seem like a bad product. 

 

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52 minutes ago, realitycheck said:

No sir, I did not go through a fitting.  Spent some time with it between fittings at our shop. 

Couple of different shaft combos. 

Just initial impressions, certainly not intended to make it seem like a bad product. 

 

Good enough. I only as as the shaft that I was fit into was never one that I would have selected on my own or even bothered hitting Iir I saw it sitting in a demo bay.   I have never really gotten along with any HZRDUS shafts let alone a 6,0.  But it was much better than the lighter less flexible Aldila I was playing. 
 

So the proper fit is a shaft can make a huge difference in what we think of a club.

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On 9/10/2022 at 5:49 PM, golfinbrad said:

I did get to hit the TSi3 with the HZRDUS Black RDX 6.5 as well.  It was only a couple swings.  Didn't get as good numbers, but not sure if that was the differences between the 2 and 3 heads, TSI vs TSR, different shafts or a combination. 

 

According to what they say, the SS is a bit hotter in the 3.  Less forgiving in off-center hits though.  2 and 4 are more forgiving off-center.

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6 minutes ago, Paincake said:

 

According to what they say, the SS is a bit hotter in the 3.  Less forgiving in off-center hits though.  2 and 4 are more forgiving off-center.

Now the couple hits was with the TSi3, not the TSr3.  I did hit a lot of balls on the TSr2 that I got similar results to the Max LS.

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21 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

 

 

He got his best numbers with the R4 which almost no one will touch.  His numbers with the R3 were on par with other Cobra TM CALLY Ping numbers.  

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On 9/11/2022 at 9:20 AM, VanTheMan0519 said:

 I have not hit the new R’s. However I play a G425 Max with a Ventus blue TR and frankly will not even consider hitting another driver until the G430 comes out. Ping lapped everything for me compared to others. And I had a 14 club Titleist bag ever since I was I was 17 lol

You are more disciplined than me! The G425 has treated me really well in terms of forgiveness but I have been wondering if I can gain some distance with the same forgiveness in the latest Titleist offering. 

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22 hours ago, MerryTex said:

I was able to hit my TSi3 against the TSR2 and 3 today. I put my Ventus TR Blue 6x in both after hitting mine for some base numbers. I’ll be honest, I took my numbers with a grain of salt due to not swinging the best. I was sick for about a week and we’ve had tons of rain the past three weeks, so I haven’t touched the clubs as much recently.   
 

I’m planning on going back after getting some more reps in but my initial thoughts are that the TSR2 is VERY tough to beat. I am usually a 3 type player but my misses were WAY better with the 2. I wasn’t spinning the ball a ton with the 3, but I think that was in part to me trying to help the ball and I caught a lot near the bottom of the face. The 2 was a lot more manageable than the 3 across the board. I’m going to try a TR Red 6x and see how it performs as well as my DI 6x. I feel like since I put the TR Blue in play, I’m trying to help the ball launch and it’s also causing me to miss right and left from making so many adjustments.
 

I was definitely getting better numbers with the 2 today over my 3 and the new TSR3 no matter the settings. Poor strikes were still carrying 270 at times and spin didn’t drop off too heavily. I usually swing about 108-111 when I’m playing well and I hit it closer to that with the 2 head. Poor strikes were penalized in ball speeds more so with the 3, which is going to happen with my strikes. Again, I’m going to go back this week or next weekend but the 2 surprised me. I’d say the new 3 feels and performed very close to the TSi3. That’s my take but it honestly felt very similar on good strikes. Now the TSR2 is another story. It definitely felt like the sweet spot was much larger and toe strikes weren’t punished as much as my gamer. I’m looking forward to some more testing. 

 

Similar thoughts as this. I hit the TSR2 and TSR3 Saturday and I'd say the TSR2 was a significant upgrade from the TSi2, closer to the 3 models in terms of looks, feel, launch numbers - albeit a bit more spin and launch compared to the "3" as the "2's" have always been designed to. Tsi3 to Tsr3 is not really a noticeable upgrade, although it had overall more consistent spin/launch/ballspeed numbers across the face. Overall observations, my numbers were better with the TSR2, but it was leaking a bit right compared to my TSI3 and the TSR3. Probably a setup thing though. Coming from a TSi3, I could probably play either the TSR2 or the TSR3, but want to get to a fitter with my shaft (Ventus Red) and ball to get in the right windows for spin and launch.

 

My "guess" pre-demo'ing it was that they'd try and get the 2 closer to the 3 in terms of looks & feel as the TSi3 was ultra successful and the TSi2 felt like a completely different driver. Even the Tsi1 felt closer to the Tsi3, than the Tsi2 did IMO. I would say that this is the case, the TSR2 is more "3-like" for sure. Less pancake/triangular looking, similar feel/sound (disclaimer, we were indoors) to the TSR3. 

 

My problem is generally the opposite of most, I have really low spin numbers, so the "2" model should fit me better in theory. I went with a Tsi3 and cranked it up to 10.75* to get to the right range as I like the control, feel, and numbers that I had better than I was getting with the Tsi2. 

 

We'll see! 

 

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Wondering if people who has TSi tried with TSR - I watched a couple of videos reviews online, some says TSR are with higher spin, some with lower. I really want to know which one is more accurate. 

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On 9/11/2022 at 7:52 AM, WristySwing said:

I sold a TSR3 yesterday.  Well, I say sold loosely because I didn't agree with the sale.  Customer had a Ping driver that gave them more ball speed and they carried an extra 3-4 yards.  Customer bought the TSR anyways because they didn't like the shape of the Ping and preferred the smaller look at address of the TSR3.  I told them I think they should stay with what they have but they went ahead anyways.  I gave it a couple whacks after they left and I agree with the others.  It is another Titleist driver, it's a predictable shape, with a predictable feel, and predictable technology.  I always feel like Titleist is chasing.  They are just now touting VFT tech and aerodynamics in a driver?  Callaway has had that for almost 20 years with VFT, Ping introduced the Vortec almost 10 years ago.  I really feel like they need to throw the blueprints away and start fresh to really make something exciting.  They have had only incremental improvements in tech since the 910 release, IMO.  

Titleist has had a VFT and “aerodynamic shaping” for many models now. If anything, Callaway VFT and Ping Turbulators haven’t yielded much in distance gains or if they did, it’s already baked into their baseline performance.

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On 9/12/2022 at 2:24 PM, Audi A-Fore said:

 

Similar thoughts as this. I hit the TSR2 and TSR3 Saturday and I'd say the TSR2 was a significant upgrade from the TSi2, closer to the 3 models in terms of looks, feel, launch numbers - albeit a bit more spin and launch compared to the "3" as the "2's" have always been designed to. Tsi3 to Tsr3 is not really a noticeable upgrade, although it had overall more consistent spin/launch/ballspeed numbers across the face. Overall observations, my numbers were better with the TSR2, but it was leaking a bit right compared to my TSI3 and the TSR3. Probably a setup thing though. Coming from a TSi3, I could probably play either the TSR2 or the TSR3, but want to get to a fitter with my shaft (Ventus Red) and ball to get in the right windows for spin and launch.

 

My "guess" pre-demo'ing it was that they'd try and get the 2 closer to the 3 in terms of looks & feel as the TSi3 was ultra successful and the TSi2 felt like a completely different driver. Even the Tsi1 felt closer to the Tsi3, than the Tsi2 did IMO. I would say that this is the case, the TSR2 is more "3-like" for sure. Less pancake/triangular looking, similar feel/sound (disclaimer, we were indoors) to the TSR3. 

 

My problem is generally the opposite of most, I have really low spin numbers, so the "2" model should fit me better in theory. I went with a Tsi3 and cranked it up to 10.75* to get to the right range as I like the control, feel, and numbers that I had better than I was getting with the Tsi2. 

 

We'll see! 

 

Agree - The TSr2 is the standout this gen. - and the fairways are serious biz. I'm very happy in my TSi3 but the TSr2 would probably save my bacon more often. I just went from Ventus Red to TR Red, and I am set for now. I usually hang on to drivers for several generations - I went from 915 d2 to the TSi3, so a nice upgrade when I did it. As stated by basically everyone, that's when you see a move in performance. Probably roll my $$$ into SM9 wedges, that's the oldest spot in my bag.

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On 9/13/2022 at 3:47 AM, Yellow Jacket said:

Titleist has had a VFT and “aerodynamic shaping” for many models now. If anything, Callaway VFT and Ping Turbulators haven’t yielded much in distance gains or if they did, it’s already baked into their baseline performance.

 

Come on now, surely you can't say that with a straight face.  The fact that many companies (Cobra, Callaway, Wilson, to name a few) all suddenly put some sort of turbulator thing on the top of their crown after Ping did says otherwise.  Same goes with Callaway.  The VFT might have been "baked in" but they took it to the next level with Jailbreak.  I fit with this stuff everyday, I can say for certain that Callaway and Ping are both quicker for the average player than Titleist drivers.  

 

I don't think they are bad drivers, they have their place.  I just think they need an overhaul.  I don't know what that overhaul is, but I think they need something to get the average person queuing up to buy it, not just the loyalists.

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4 hours ago, WristySwing said:

 

Come on now, surely you can't say that with a straight face.  The fact that many companies (Cobra, Callaway, Wilson, to name a few) all suddenly put some sort of turbulator thing on the top of their crown after Ping did says otherwise.  Same goes with Callaway.  The VFT might have been "baked in" but they took it to the next level with Jailbreak.  I fit with this stuff everyday, I can say for certain that Callaway and Ping are both quicker for the average player than Titleist drivers.  

 

I don't think they are bad drivers, they have their place.  I just think they need an overhaul.  I don't know what that overhaul is, but I think they need something to get the average person queuing up to buy it, not just the loyalists.

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I am on the quest for the clubs I hit the best, feel and looks be darned.

These below have my attention at the moment.

 

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Speedzone Tour Big - Arcane

Rogue Sub Zero - Thump 

0211DC 5-PW - Elevate Tour

SM8 50/F, 54/D, 58/M - i123

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On 9/16/2022 at 7:53 AM, WristySwing said:

Edit: Not worth arguing.

Yep. You gotta know when to fold ‘em. 😬

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On 9/10/2022 at 7:36 PM, golfinbrad said:

In my experience Titleist has always been sold but never a distance driver.  Not saying short. Just more consistent and traditional.  This is why I made the post.  The numbers changes my perception.

Traditionally, yes, but that hasn't been true since the first TS series came out. The last three lines (TS / TSi / TSr) are as fast as anything out there.

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5 hours ago, uglande said:

Traditionally, yes, but that hasn't been true since the first TS series came out. The last three lines (TS / TSi / TSr) are as fast as anything out there.

 

Yeah Titleist actually knew they were losing the ball speed race in drivers and addressed it from the TS line forward. I mean TS stands for "Titleist Speed" which was a dedicated project to improve their ballspeed. It worked as you say and they've retained a lot of their looks, feel and sound characteristics. Actually they might have gained there too as i seem to remember the 915 and 917 may have been a little bit tin can? From memory their drivers had been a bit spinny for a while as well and they certainly don't have that problem now.  Credit to them. 

 

I haven't gamed a Titleist driver since the 983K but these TSR's have got my interest. 

 

   

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Longtime Titleist user; I have gamed just about everything from 910 forward in driver, other than 915 (couldnt stand the sound).  People rag on 917, but it was a very solid & consistent club for me for a few years (maybe not the longest, but it was dependable).

 

TS was a game changer for Titleist.  The ball jumped off the face.  I keep a spare bag up north at my buddy's house that includes a TS3/Aldila Tour Green combination.  Was just up there a few weeks ago.  My buddy (a longtime TM fan) tried it on the back 9.  "jeez this thing's a cannon" was his reaction.  

 

In prior years I stuck with Titleist b/c of the sound and feel.  I accepted giving up a few yards to my TM/Callaway/Ping buddies.  Now the playing field is leveled.

 

I like the TSi3.  Have no reason to change.  But I want to hit all 3 TSR models.  And will probably buy one.  'cuz I'm a ho.  🙂

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Similar experience here, hit it last week and while the TSr2 kills on looks, I mean it's near perfect, performance is nearly identical to the TSi2.  Gonna be tough to find any real standout gains for a while I think, but the shape is absolutely beautiful.

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