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4 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

This year is a complete overhaul. It is not an epic, rogue, or mavric refresh. It is a new beginning. 

Could they be going away from "jailbreak"?

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2 minutes ago, Wardonation said:

Could they be going away from "jailbreak"?

They already have in principle - in the Rogue ST line of fairways and hybrids there is no more bars in the middle but 'batwings' on the sides of the face.

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16 minutes ago, Wardonation said:

Could they be going away from "jailbreak"?

No.

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13 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

They already have in principle - in the Rogue ST line of fairways and hybrids there is no more bars in the middle but 'batwings' on the sides of the face.

That was a jailbreak improvement not really a move away.

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Callaway could use a good paradigm shift. 

 

OG Epic SZ was really amazing, and I could easily still play that club.  Not too many huge leaps forward since 2017', beyond a few TD versions.  Callaway is due for a big release.

 

I'll enjoy the marketing either way.   

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4 minutes ago, getair23 said:

Callaway could use a good paradigm shift. 

 

OG Epic SZ was really amazing, and I could easily still play that club.  Not too many huge leaps forward since 2017', beyond a few TD versions.  Callaway is due for a big release.

 

I'll enjoy the marketing either way.   

I think you're right.  I also agree on the OG Epic SZ.  Could probably be the biggest boost in driver performance that I have seen in the past decade or so.  Real game changer.  They've been putting out really good products in the meantime.  But, I would love for something new and exciting to come out.  Really looking forward to seeing the new line in the coming months.

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2 hours ago, radiman said:

I think you're right.  I also agree on the OG Epic SZ.  Could probably be the biggest boost in driver performance that I have seen in the past decade or so.  Real game changer.  They've been putting out really good products in the meantime.  But, I would love for something new and exciting to come out.  Really looking forward to seeing the new line in the coming months.

 

I don't see how they can exponentially increase performance over the Rogue ST line. Absolutely unbelievable drivers across the lineup. With things so maxed out spec wise I'm not sure how much better they can really get at this point.

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3 Wood - Ping G425 14.5° w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

Hybrid - Ping G425 17° w/ Accra TZ SIX 85H M5

Hybrid - Ping G430 20.5° w/ Accra TZ6 Proto 85H M5

5 Iron - Mizuno JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro w/ Nippon Modus 120S

6-GW - Mizuno JPX 923 Forged w/ Nippon Modus 120S

Sand Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 53° w/ Nippon Modus 125

Lob Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 58° w/ BGT ZNE 130

Putter - Odyssey Ai-One Double Wide DB 32.5" w/ Garsen Max Grip

Ball - Callaway Chrome Tour X 

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10 minutes ago, KhiloD said:

 

I don't see how they can exponentially increase performance over the Rogue ST line. Absolutely unbelievable drivers across the lineup. With things so maxed out spec wise I'm not sure how much better they can really get at this point.

I've seen them 🤐; count me as VERY eager to see what their performance is like. As good as the Rogue ST line was it also wasn't without its issues, and those issues were addressed in spades with the new stuff (have to step around the specifics of that for now). From the looks of them, there is serious potential across the entire line of woods. But potential and manifested performance and how the golfing public receives a product line are two very different things, so we'll see.

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I'm a bit of a fanboy, but I'm excited to see what they've got cooking.

 

I've put the Mavrik SZ TD back in the bag for sim season. I just couldn't find a Rogue TD combo that wasn't really hooky for me. (Although to be fair I never really gave the regular Max LS a fair shot.)

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5 minutes ago, bcflyguy1 said:

I've seen them 🤐; count me as VERY eager to see what their performance is like. As good as the Rogue ST line was it also wasn't without its issues, and those issues were addressed in spades with the new stuff (have to step around the specifics of that for now). From the looks of them, there is serious potential across the entire line of woods. But potential and manifested performance and how the golfing public receives a product line are two very different things, so we'll see.

Then I am definitely interested to see as everyone at my club that hit it this year was a major fan especially in the MAX LS and the TD versions.

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3 Wood - Ping G425 14.5° w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

Hybrid - Ping G425 17° w/ Accra TZ SIX 85H M5

Hybrid - Ping G430 20.5° w/ Accra TZ6 Proto 85H M5

5 Iron - Mizuno JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro w/ Nippon Modus 120S

6-GW - Mizuno JPX 923 Forged w/ Nippon Modus 120S

Sand Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 53° w/ Nippon Modus 125

Lob Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 58° w/ BGT ZNE 130

Putter - Odyssey Ai-One Double Wide DB 32.5" w/ Garsen Max Grip

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This is freaking good news. Tidbits, I know.

 

2023 was looking at the 430 LST but at (proposed) $649, I am hoping Callaway would be more sensible. If neither works out, nothing wrong with my ST Max combo.

 

I find it hard to believe the ST Max can be improved upon. No, I never had any issues with this line. As for hooks, it's in the swing and grip. That's just golf and can happen on any driver unless it's silly open.

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Driver: Taylormade Stealth 2+, Proxima 5X 

Fairways: Callaway - Rogue ST LS 13.5* & Fujikura Red TR 5S // Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 15* & Miyazaki C Kua 43S

Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid 19*

Irons:       Cobra Forged Tec X 5 - PW KBS TGI 85 stiff shafts
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48* & Cleveland Full Face 56*, KBS TGI 100 shafts
Putter:     LAB Golf Mezz.1 ACCRA shaft / Directed Force Reno "2.05 Presse IV tweaked" Putter with OG BGT Stability shaft
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3 minutes ago, SwingBlues said:

This is freaking good news. Tidbits, I know.

 

2023 was looking at the 430 LST but at (proposed) $649, I am hoping Callaway would be more sensible. If neither works out, nothing wrong with my ST Max combo.

 

I find it hard to believe the ST Max can be improved upon. No, I never had any issues with this line. As for hooks, it's in the swing and grip. That's just golf and can happen on any driver unless it's silly open.

I'm sure the price will jump on this newest one to be in-line with the Stealth/+  ($749/779 here in Canada). 

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Driver - Callaway Rogue ST Max LS 8° w/ Fujikura Ventus Blue 6X

3 Wood - Ping G425 14.5° w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

Hybrid - Ping G425 17° w/ Accra TZ SIX 85H M5

Hybrid - Ping G430 20.5° w/ Accra TZ6 Proto 85H M5

5 Iron - Mizuno JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro w/ Nippon Modus 120S

6-GW - Mizuno JPX 923 Forged w/ Nippon Modus 120S

Sand Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 53° w/ Nippon Modus 125

Lob Wedge - Callaway JAWS Full Toe Raw Black 58° w/ BGT ZNE 130

Putter - Odyssey Ai-One Double Wide DB 32.5" w/ Garsen Max Grip

Ball - Callaway Chrome Tour X 

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Callaway improved the sound and feel of Epic with Rogue ST line.  Plus they were very fine looking drivers w/matte and gold accents.  Rogue Max LS paired with ZF was damn near perfect for me this last year.  This new tech story has me pumped bc it truly is new.  If you are Callaway and witness to the marketing hype of “the carbon era” by Taylormade, then I’m sure they’ve been itching to put something phenomenal out like Titleist did with TSR.

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No matte

Classic Callaway shaping.  There are three heads tour/low spin, standard, max

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I've been holding off on buying a new driver mostly to see what they've been cooking up. I came so close to getting a Rogue St Max LS a few times as I really like it, but my Epic Speed Tour AD IZ combo really get along so holding off for next year's releases doesn't hurt my feelings. 

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9 minutes ago, JohnnyCallaway said:

Hey all, 

 

Loving the comments in here and wanted to give you a quick response. All I will tell you (taking off my Callaway hat for a moment) is that this upcoming line will not only get US gear heads excited but I believe its the best work R&D has done. These past few years have been great but have all lead up to this. Im ridiculously excited for you all to see what we got. 

Concur.

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43 minutes ago, JohnnyCallaway said:

Hey all, 

 

Loving the comments in here and wanted to give you a quick response. All I will tell you (taking off my Callaway hat for a moment) is that this upcoming line will not only get US gear heads excited but I believe its the best work R&D has done. These past few years have been great but have all lead up to this. Im ridiculously excited for you all to see what we got. 

Hello - Just wish some insight if there will be new irons and in which category...

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On 11/16/2022 at 1:18 AM, TheMoneyShot said:

Really strange they are keeping the Epic current and replacing the Rogue line.  You’d think it would be the other way around.  Cally is throwing us a curve ball this year.

 

No your right lol. The current is the rouge. I was looking at pics of the epic max LS when I was writing that and got it back to front sorry.

 

rouge stays! Epic goes.

 

epic was released using the word paradigm.

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2 minutes ago, Pleasedwith3putts said:

I liked the matte!

 

How about moveable weights - that would really have helped me iron out my issues with the Max line, I like fine tuning in drivers

 

I was a fan of the moveable weight until the ST Max. No need for it, since it's super forgiving especially on the toe miss. Love it.

 

Bring it on Callaway, bring it on.... think this thread just talked me out of the G430... 😂

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Fairways: Callaway - Rogue ST LS 13.5* & Fujikura Red TR 5S // Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 15* & Miyazaki C Kua 43S

Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid 19*

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