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26 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

 

I hope this isn't the start of a new trend, where fairways become the same price as drivers, followed by hybrids in the next cycle.

 

The Max fairway is massively cheaper so it's a one off i reckon. Think back to the TSI Tec all titanium FW all those years ago. It was big dollars - all titanium. It stopped there.    

G430 9* Ventus Velo 7s
Titleist TSI2 15* DI7s

Ping G425 19* hybrid Accra TZ6
Tour Edge XCG 24* hybrid Altus
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-pw
Ping Stealth 2.0 50*SS, S159 54/58*SS
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20 minutes ago, Qegurezi said:

 

The Max fairway is massively cheaper so it's a one off i reckon. Think back to the TSI Tec all titanium FW all those years ago. It was big dollars - all titanium. It stopped there.    


Having worked in planning for a consumer durable firm, so being aware of costs, margins etc, I won’t pay what I consider to be excessively high prices for the latest gear. Very roughly, I assume first-release prices are at least 3 times factory-door costs. Probably higher for much of the stock-shaft products. A set of new hybrids is going to run at c £1k. Absurd, I’ll buy heads only or the obsolete model if I need anything. That’s precious little having Scots antecedents. Do the OEM’s discuss release prices at informal meetings I wonder ? Anyone have insight ?

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12 hours ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

Made in Arizona USA... available 1st in Australia. Awesome 👍.

 

Think of it like an Apple computer.

 

Engineered in California, but most definitely made in China.

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RogueST 9@11º 3D (ADDI 6X), 425 3w 14.5º (TourX), 430 3h 19º & 4 iCross (HZRDUS Red 6.0), i230 5-U, G4 54º, GFP 59º (DART105F4). 2021 Fetch (BGT Tour Black).

"Golf is just a dance with a stick, and a ball tells you how good a dancer you are."  LCP150mm in your fairway should be a full-time rule.

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12* available only in the Max and not in the SFT?  Doesn’t make sense?

Ping G400 SFT 12*

Ping G 5W 19*

Ping G  7W 21.5*

Ping G410 5 Hybrid 25*

Mizuno JPX 923 HM HL 6-GW

Cleveland CBX2 54* & 58*

Scotty Cameron Newport Mil Spec 340g @ 34”

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15 hours ago, m_w said:

Here's the pricing i expect:

 

MAX - $599

LST - $699

FW Max - $399

FW LST - $499

Hybrids - $299

 

...hope you're wrong, $699 is making TSr look seriously great, value for money. And TSr is better looking as well.

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Fairways: Callaway - Rogue ST LS 13.5* & Fujikura Red TR 5S // Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 15* & Miyazaki C Kua 43S

Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid 19*

Irons:       Ping i530 5-PW AWT 2.0 matte black shafts, JumboMax STR8 Ultralite grips
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48, Ben Hogan Equalizer 52*, Cleveland Full Face 56*, KBS TGI 100 shafts
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Pricing is an interesting one for sure. Due to a whole host of factors, we had demand far outstripping supply. Now we have supply normalising as disposable incomes are getting crunched pretty much globally.

 

A parallel may be the CPU market. There was a shortage for a long time and at the same time that supply has normalised, demand has done a Wile E. Coyote. AMD has chopped $1 billion off their revenue forecast for next quarter.

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Wonder if the rear weights for the 425 will fit the 430.

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12 hours ago, James West said:

The Ping G430 website is up https://pingg430.com

SO they do not offer the KAI'LI shafts in  "TX"... total bummer. The TX is awesome great low torque shafts but the "X" is 1 degree more torque and just not the same shaft.

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G430 17 HY DI HY 85 X

TSR2 21 HY DI HY 85 X

4 THRU PW King Tour KBS $ Taper 120

VOKEY 48 "F" KBS $ Taper 120

VOKEY 54 "F" S400

VOKEY 60 "V" S400

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Interesting that there is carbon in all but the MAX and SFT drivers.

PING G400 Max 10.5° (+)
PING G430 fairway 18° (F-), Alta CB S
PING G430 hybrid 22° (F-), Alta CB S
PING i530 5-U, DG Mid 115 S300
PING s159 54°-W (bent 52°), 58°-B, DG Mid 115 S300
PING Serene B60, KBS CT Tour, 35"
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14 hours ago, James West said:

The Ping G430 website is up https://pingg430.com

Interesting to see that the LST driver head weight is 208 vs. the Max at 206. Guess reducing overall head weight wasn’t an aim with the carbon wrap so much as positioning it at the back to increase forgiveness on that model?

Driver: Ping G430 LST 9* | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X

3W: Ping G430 Max @14* | Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 70X

Hybrids: Ping G430 3H, 5H @25* | Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura AXIOM 105X

Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 54/12W@55/13W, 60/12X | Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide 

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6 minutes ago, eric61 said:

Interesting to see that the LST driver head weight is 208 vs. the Max at 206. Guess reducing overall head weight wasn’t an aim with the carbon wrap so much as positioning it at the back to increase forgiveness on that model?

 

I think so, also the same weights as the G425 drivers. Most people seemed to swing the G425 LST a little faster than the Max in spite of the weight; my guess is that the 440cc head improves aerodynamics enough to offset an extra 2g.

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1 hour ago, eric61 said:

Interesting to see that the LST driver head weight is 208 vs. the Max at 206. Guess reducing overall head weight wasn’t an aim with the carbon wrap so much as positioning it at the back to increase forgiveness on that model?

Still heavy overall, but take out the 7g for each of the adapters and ferrule as Ping advertises weight included with those, so respectively 201/199g

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12 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

Still heavy overall, but take out the 7g for each of the adapters and ferrule as Ping advertises weight included with those, so respectively 201/199g

Gotcha, I didn’t realize that but it makes sense. Do you happen to know other brands’ adapter weights? I’m sure somebody on here has measured them. Basically wondering how 208g compares to my 194g-plus-adapter Titleist driver weight.

Driver: Ping G430 LST 9* | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X

3W: Ping G430 Max @14* | Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 70X

Hybrids: Ping G430 3H, 5H @25* | Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura AXIOM 105X

Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 54/12W@55/13W, 60/12X | Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide 

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4 minutes ago, eric61 said:

Gotcha, I didn’t realize that but it makes sense. Do you happen to know other brands’ adapter weights? I’m sure somebody on here has measured them. Basically wondering how 208g compares to my 194g-plus-adapter Titleist driver weight.

Cobra 6g

TM 6g

Titleist 8g
Ping is actually 4g if I recall, not the 7g I thought

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The sound is much better. The graphics aren't distracting -- if you could already handle turbs, the little outline is nothing.

 

If sound is your thing, you'll upgrade.

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"Golf is just a dance with a stick, and a ball tells you how good a dancer you are."  LCP150mm in your fairway should be a full-time rule.

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Tested G430 LST and Max today. They look good at address, sound way better than G425, but I saw no improvement on Quad against my G410 LST. In fact, I hit my longest of the session with my G410. Even the fitter, to their absolute credit, said there was no point changing. 
 

For my delivery, we actually agreed G410 LST managed spin off-centre the best. 
 

The sound of the G430 LST is great, pretty similar to my gamer, so if you see a gain, you’ll be pleased.

 

For me, I’m going to test TSR next and see if the lighter head weight of that offers me any better speed on my G410 without losing stability off-centre.

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TaylorMade BRNR Mini 13.5*, AD-IZ 
Ping G430 hybrid 17* & 22*, Tour 2.0 Chrome 

Titleist T150 5-iron, AMT White 
Miura TC-201 6-9, AMT White 
Vokey SM8 46*, Vokey SM7 50*, Ping S159 54*, Vokey SM8 58* LBK
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8 minutes ago, SJP1 said:

Tested G430 LST and Max today. They look good at address, sound way better than G425, but I saw no improvement on Quad against my G410 LST. In fact, I hit my longest of the session with my G410. Even the fitter, to their absolute credit, said there was no point changing. 
 

For my delivery, we actually agreed G410 LST managed spin off-centre the best. 
 

The sound of the G430 LST is great, pretty similar to my gamer, so if you see a gain, you’ll be pleased.

 

For me, I’m going to test TSR next and see if the lighter head weight of that offers me any better speed on my G410 without losing stability off-centre.

 

I wasn't on a meter, but I saw exactly the same thing. It's a brilliant driver, but if you have and like a 400 or 410, you'll probably stick to it. If you have a 425, well… you do you, especially you Max owners.

 

If someone offered me a super deal, I'd probably take it. The sound is brilliant. 

RogueST 9@11º 3D (ADDI 6X), 425 3w 14.5º (TourX), 430 3h 19º & 4 iCross (HZRDUS Red 6.0), i230 5-U, G4 54º, GFP 59º (DART105F4). 2021 Fetch (BGT Tour Black).

"Golf is just a dance with a stick, and a ball tells you how good a dancer you are."  LCP150mm in your fairway should be a full-time rule.

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The fairways intrigue me most. Loved the look of the 425 but the three dot alignment bugged me. Glad they made it cleaner. And with the new tech, I can see it making its way into my bag.

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PING G400 Max 10.5° (+)
PING G430 fairway 18° (F-), Alta CB S
PING G430 hybrid 22° (F-), Alta CB S
PING i530 5-U, DG Mid 115 S300
PING s159 54°-W (bent 52°), 58°-B, DG Mid 115 S300
PING Serene B60, KBS CT Tour, 35"
Maxfli Tour Yellow
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6 hours ago, SJP1 said:

Tested G430 LST and Max today. They look good at address, sound way better than G425, but I saw no improvement on Quad against my G410 LST. In fact, I hit my longest of the session with my G410. Even the fitter, to their absolute credit, said there was no point changing. 
 

For my delivery, we actually agreed G410 LST managed spin off-centre the best. 
 

The sound of the G430 LST is great, pretty similar to my gamer, so if you see a gain, you’ll be pleased.

 

For me, I’m going to test TSR next and see if the lighter head weight of that offers me any better speed on my G410 without losing stability off-centre.

 

6 hours ago, karstens_ghost said:

 

I wasn't on a meter, but I saw exactly the same thing. It's a brilliant driver, but if you have and like a 400 or 410, you'll probably stick to it. If you have a 425, well… you do you, especially you Max owners.

 

If someone offered me a super deal, I'd probably take it. The sound is brilliant. 

Aside from distance and sound, were there any other performance differences between the two that you all noticed? 

 

Also, any chance one of you hit the G430 LST 3 wood?

Driver: Ping G430 LST 9* | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X

3W: Ping G430 Max @14* | Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 70X

Hybrids: Ping G430 3H, 5H @25* | Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura AXIOM 105X

Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 54/12W@55/13W, 60/12X | Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide 

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