Tour Ping G430 LST and Max drivers, G430 Max fairway wood & G430 hybrid – 2022 Shriners Children's Open

[KParks]

8 hours ago, karstens_ghost said:

The sound is much better. The graphics aren't distracting -- if you could already handle turbs, the little outline is nothing.

 

If sound is your thing, you'll upgrade.

 

Did you hit LST only or LST and Max?

 

While I love the idea of the LST, I'm almost certain that the Max is going to be the club that fits better for me. For all of its flaws (mostly weight without a CB shaft and sound), I still miss my G400Max. 

[James West]

Looks like no crossovers this year.

[SJP1]

3 hours ago, eric61 said:

 

Aside from distance and sound, were there any other performance differences between the two that you all noticed? 

 

Also, any chance one of you hit the G430 LST 3 wood?

The launch on the G430 was just over a degree higher in my numbers. But that’s likely more me and my delivery than any difference in the heads. Otherwise, it was very hard to see a difference between the the 430 and 410 for me personally.

 

Not in the market for new fairways so didn’t  test them.

[karstens_ghost]

5 hours ago, eric61 said:

 

Aside from distance and sound, were there any other performance differences between the two that you all noticed? 

 

Also, any chance one of you hit the G430 LST 3 wood?

 

3 hours ago, KParks said:

 

Did you hit LST only or LST and Max?

 

While I love the idea of the LST, I'm almost certain that the Max is going to be the club that fits better for me. For all of its flaws (mostly weight without a CB shaft and sound), I still miss my G400Max. 

 

The Kai'li was boardy.

The head felt lighter in swing weight when I put my tour 65x in it, but that could be placebo.

Flight was slightly higher, but the range balls were not exactly quality.

Did not hit Max or 3. Was there to try i230s; was mistakenly told they were in the batch, so it wasn't a big Pepsi Challenge.

 

 

[karstens_ghost]

1 hour ago, James West said:

Looks like no crossovers this year.

It's already on conforming list? 

[thigos]

4 hours ago, James West said:

Looks like no crossovers this year.

 

 

[AmateurAmateur]

On 10/12/2022 at 6:45 AM, James West said:

The Ping G430 website is up https://pingg430.com

No LST 5 wood. Again. Disappointing but not surprised. 😔

[BeerNye]

Sound and a relatively lower forgiveness (for me on that day) compared to the Cobra LTDx LS was what kept me from going with the G425 LST when I was fitted at the beginning of the summer. The sound was REALLY not my cup of tea.

 

May have to go back and try these new models (along with the TSR3/4.) I'm still not as consistent with my driver as I'd like. 

[Wardonation]

What is amazing is the "carbon Fly" patent was filed over 5 years ago. It just shows how far ahead the RD teams are with these OEMS.

[leftycabe]

3 hours ago, AmateurAmateur said:

No LST 5 wood. Again. Disappointing but not surprised. 😔

this is a genuine question - not judging. Why would one want a low spin 5 wood? Isn’t a 5 wood used to hold a green from a distance? 

[Red4282]

12 minutes ago, leftycabe said:

this is a genuine question - not judging. Why would one want a low spin 5 wood? Isn’t a 5 wood used to hold a green from a distance? 

Higher swing speeds, and windy conditions. some three woods become moonshots. Tbh hybrids give me ideal numbers, but would like hybrid numbers with 5 wood forgiveness if that makes sense. 

[AmateurAmateur]

1 hour ago, leftycabe said:

this is a genuine question - not judging. Why would one want a low spin 5 wood? Isn’t a 5 wood used to hold a green from a distance? 

I have no use for a 3 wood in my yardage gapping but Ping woods spin a lot into the wind for me- almost to the point where hitting it on windy days is more detrimental to my game than hitting a 3 iron. 

[GolfTurkey]

If you don’t speak Japanese and you want more info on G430, I highly recommend watching the reviews on YouTube with captions on and auto-translate to English.

 

Sometimes the translations make sense, other times not so much. One guy hit a shot with the G430 Max, made a satisfied grunt, and said something. The translation was “ah, it’s good to be a man…the dinosaurs are coming out”.

[Morry]

18 hours ago, leftycabe said:

this is a genuine question - not judging. Why would one want a low spin 5 wood? Isn’t a 5 wood used to hold a green from a distance? 

for me, to avoid the draw bias that you get in varying degrees in everyone's standard heads....In this case the max 

 

[Pastit]

19 hours ago, leftycabe said:

this is a genuine question - not judging. Why would one want a low spin 5 wood? Isn’t a 5 wood used to hold a green from a distance? 

If I recall correctly, and as I was playing off single figures when 5 woods appeared on the scene, they were regarded as recovery clubs from semi-rough. 
 

For windy links, all height is to be avoided, when possible, into wind and hybrids are problematic in this case. 

[leftycabe]

1 hour ago, Morry said:

for me, to avoid the draw bias that you get in varying degrees in everyone's standard heads....In this case the max 

 

Would it be possible to turn a 7 wood down to open it? That assumes the yardage gap works for you. I don’t know why, but I had never thought of the need/desire for low spin in the 5 wood because I just see pros hitting it as high as possible to get it to stop quick. Still learning something new everyday!

[Morry]

7 hours ago, leftycabe said:

Would it be possible to turn a 7 wood down to open it? That assumes the yardage gap works for you. I don’t know why, but I had never thought of the need/desire for low spin in the 5 wood because I just see pros hitting it as high as possible to get it to stop quick. Still learning something new everyday!

depending on the loft sleeve your club has, the answer is yes - Callaway, ping do this as an example 

[DaRiz]

Is the 430LST still less than 460cc like the 400LST? 
 

I don’t see anything here kicking the 400s out of the bag. The 425 could have done it on looks, but didn’t like the sound and didn’t perform better. 400 still goated until further notice 

[BubbaBallesteros]

11 minutes ago, DaRiz said:

Is the 430LST still less than 460cc like the 400LST? 
 

I don’t see anything here kicking the 400s out of the bag. The 425 could have done it on looks, but didn’t like the sound and didn’t perform better. 400 still goated until further notice 

G430 LST is 440cc and I think the G400 LST was 445CC.

[shoreline9]

On 10/13/2022 at 12:22 PM, James West said:

Looks like no crossovers this year.

New crossover will have an adjustable hosel. 

[jerryo]

Looks like the 430 driver has its first tour win with Keegan Bradley.

[ibluetooth]

On 10/12/2022 at 6:45 AM, James West said:

The Ping G430 website is up https://pingg430.com

Interesting fact according to this site. The LST Fairway Wood has a Ti Face? 

 

[Qegurezi]

55 minutes ago, ibluetooth said:

Interesting fact according to this site. The LST Fairway Wood has a Ti Face? 

 

Yep that's why it's so obscenely expensive apparently. 

[Bodles]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:34 AM, HitBombs said:

Anyone know the release date? Approx even?

Available in Australia right now, US in Jan I think

[gticlay]

On 10/15/2022 at 2:39 PM, Pastit said:

If I recall correctly, and as I was playing off single figures when 5 woods appeared on the scene, they were regarded as recovery clubs from semi-rough. 
 

For windy links, all height is to be avoided, when possible, into wind and hybrids are problematic in this case. 

I was able to play the Jubilee course alone, from the back tees in May so I hit two balls of most tees. When I hit iron vs 5 wood, it was incredible how much the heavy winds would play with the 5 wood shots vs. the iron shots.  Next time I'll probably bring some sort of 2 iron.

[TOgolf]

6 hours ago, ibluetooth said:

Interesting fact according to this site. The LST Fairway Wood has a Ti Face? 

 

is this a quiet admission that the Taylormade ti fairways have been leading in design?

Edited October 16, 2022 by TOgolf

[Pastit]

2 hours ago, gticlay said:

I was able to play the Jubilee course alone, from the back tees in May so I hit two balls of most tees. When I hit iron vs 5 wood, it was incredible how much the heavy winds would play with the 5 wood shots vs. the iron shots.  Next time I'll probably bring some sort of 2 iron.

Yip, 2i for you young guns. Tour spoon for me now. 

[gticlay]

37 minutes ago, Pastit said:

Yip, 2i for you young guns. Tour spoon for me now. 

LOL. Turned 49 today.  But I get 220+ out of a 4i at links courses.

[shoreline9]

4 hours ago, TOgolf said:

is this a quiet admission that the Taylormade ti fairways have been leading in design?

No, it's an obvious admission that Tour Edge beta cup design in their fairway woods is a key component to the distance fairway wood category (which Tour Edge has been doing for the last 20 years). 

Edited October 16, 2022 by shoreline9

[bobbyclampett!!]

13 hours ago, jerryo said:

Looks like the 430 driver has its first tour win with Keegan Bradley.

Can play whatever driver he wants, first week it comes out, breaks a long drought with the LST. Pretty cool. I’m definitely intrigued.