Tour Ping G430 LST and Max drivers, G430 Max fairway wood & G430 hybrid – 2022 Shriners Children's Open

[TheMoneyShot]

5 hours ago, NZ315 said:

Not really digging the driver. Although the carbon crown is appealing just loose the fins. That fairway wood is probably going in the bag though. If the carbon crown on the woods are all the way through. I see a new 7wood in my horizon. 
Maybe……

100% agree!  That fwy looks money💰

[PrettyGood]

So many whingers in this thread.

 

These look great.

[ShakeyT]

Looks like this design was released with a 2nd & 3rd generations already in mind.

 

The carbon area on the crown on the next generation will extend more toward the face, but will still have metal turbulators. Then they'll claim a huge weight savings which can redistributed low & back to make it even more forgiving. 

 

Then they can make the turbulators out of carbon on the 3rd gen & save even more weight on the crown, Stop me if you've heard this story before.

 

[Strategery]

13 minutes ago, PrettyGood said:

So many whingers in this thread.

[Ghostwedge]

If the front of the LST carbon fly wrap was painted white half the guys on here would be giddy. 

Oh wait..... 

[BubbaBallesteros]

11 minutes ago, Strategery said:

Whinge - To complain persistently in an irritating way.

[AmateurAmateur]

Definitely in the minority but actually a huge fan of the Turbulators. I feel like they frame the ball nicely and once you go to a matte top you can't go back. Not a huge fan of the paint on the crown though. Ping will make a killing if they offer a custom program like Callaway/Taylormade where we can customise the colour scheme. 

[lil'mike]

I don't mind the looks if they preform but I still think I will stick with my g410's.  They don't look much different and I am sure performance wise there isn't much difference either!  If I didn't have the g410's, then yeah I would try them!

 

[PureDivots]

Personally not a fan of carbon in terms of sound and feel, but I'm sure these will grow on me. Interested to see how they perform.

[appilags]

7 hours ago, lil'mike said:

The range or setup for the fade/draw weight change is pretty small now compared to the G410.  Will that work at that short of change?

 

They are heavy weights; they work. 

[gaffs]

Florescent yellow paint on the crown. Its a no from me.

[The Mad Bomber]

6 hours ago, PowderedToastMan said:

Well, they did what people asked, which was to put carbon on the crown of the LST. Should be an awesome driver. 

Is that really what the people were asking for though? I always heard complaints about the sound and a few grumblings about the head weight for sure, but there was clearly a market for all metal heads - PING and Titleist prove that. The PING heads are too ugly for my taste but I wouldn't give them a sniff now that they've gone carbon in the low spin heads.

[junior79]

28 minutes ago, PureDivots said:

Personally not a fan of carbon in terms of sound and feel, but I'm sure these will grow on me. Interested to see how they perform.

Same here! Been gaming Ping drivers since the G10. Learned long ago to ignore the looks of ping drivers. When the g30 came out I learned to ignore the sound as well. Been ignoring looks and sound for so long given how long and straight they are. Same with this release, looks ok, sounds like who knows what, but if it's long and straight, take my money now.

[NZ315]

1 hour ago, TheMoneyShot said:

100% agree!  That fwy looks money💰

TSR3 get my money for the driver this year! Fairway woods it’s going to be a toss up g430, TSR, or new STZ. All can’t go wrong with probably only separated from a few yards if that. Looks and feel is going to be the decision maker

[stephenmatt]

My last 2 drivers have been the G410 Plus and the G425 MAX. I think I may try this line but I am probably going to look elsewhere. I am tired of the look and I think the color is really an eye sore. Obviously if it performs really well and I like the feel I would consider it.

Edited October 4, 2022 by stephenmatt

[PostandGhost]

I'm surprised it took Ping this long to return to using composite in the head.  I understand why Titleist never will use it again.  Titleist's last driver model with composite material is the reason why lions eat their young.  But Ping on the other hand had huge performance success with their composite head.  I have no clue how it sold, however you have to think that performance means something.  I'm shocked they didn't return to the well sooner.  

[Llortamaisey]

I feel like I can hear the pictures of the drivers. 

[BallerNate]

I don’t mind the turbulators that much…I think they give PING Drivers a distinctive look. And although I’m not a fan of the neon green colour scheme, I could look past it if the clubs perform.

 

But the shallowness of the Fairways is the real deal breaker for me. I tested the shallow-faced Fairway trend with the Epic Max 3W last year, and I’ll never go back. Deep faced Fairways for me…sorry.

[Morry]

How much more neutral to fade biased is the LST vs the MAX?

 

does the MAX have some draw bias built in?  It normally does a that model 

 

anyone's insight appreciated

[cflo2382]

Man, IDK about this one but still going to try it.

Edited October 4, 2022 by cflo2382

[ZipinZ]

Look forward to demo one, the yellow doesn't appeal to me s/b silver paint fill.

 

D.

[SwingBlues]

1 hour ago, BallerNate said:

I don’t mind the turbulators that much…I think they give PING Drivers a distinctive look. And although I’m not a fan of the neon green colour scheme, I could look past it if the clubs perform.

 

But the shallowness of the Fairways is the real deal breaker for me. I tested the shallow-faced Fairway trend with the Epic Max 3W last year, and I’ll never go back. Deep faced Fairways for me…sorry.

 

Oh BN, you'll learn shallow face is HOT dude... perfect for those tight lies going for 2 on the Par 5s 😉

 

I'll wait and see with this G430. I won't be so pumped about it like I did with the G425 this time and the good WRX community here will surely let us know the sound/weight is fixed or not especially for the carbon top LST version.

 

Now watch...how many threads will there be for the

 

"Will the G425 rear weight fit on the back for the G430"

 

followed by

 

"man, can I hotmelt the G430 to improve the sound"?

 

😁

[KParks]

Still not sure about the two tone top on the LST.  Looking forward to seeing these in person though. 

[rainkingjr]

I'm a long time Ping fan. As a Ping fan, I've always understood that their main goal has always been performance over aesthetics. If they incorporate something into their design, it's with a purpose. Their clubs will never win a beauty contest. I have no doubt that these will perform. 

[sneaky_pete]

3 hours ago, AmateurAmateur said:

Definitely in the minority but actually a huge fan of the Turbulators. I feel like they frame the ball nicely and once you go to a matte top you can't go back. 

 

+1.  I use the turbulators the same way.  Been gaming the G400 Max since it came out so I hope the G430 Max is worth upgrading to.

[DLBTide7]

10 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

The million dollar question we're all waiting for is whether or not these drivers sound better. 

I was in a ProAm at Shriners today, and played 9 with a Ping staff player. He was getting 1.5 -2.0 mph greater ball speed than the 425 LST; the sound is very solid and “muted” compared to the 425. At one point he said he actually would have liked to hear a little louder sound coming from the 430 driver. 

[Hedgehog]

52 minutes ago, DLBTide7 said:

I was in a ProAm at Shriners today, and played 9 with a Ping staff player. He was getting 1.5 -2.0 mph greater ball speed than the 425 LST; the sound is very solid and “muted” compared to the 425. At one point he said he actually would have liked to hear a little louder sound coming from the 430 driver. 

 

That's great to hear a proper performance gain, seems like Titleist had a massive performance gain this year also so we expect others to gain also. Any idea about the shape bias? How did he hit it?

[Hedgehog]

6 hours ago, CCTxGolf said:

I’m a little surprised they chose not to go carbon in the max. Seems like they would have made this the “new thing” about the 430 line. At this point there’s really no difference in this max and the previous 425 besides paint.

Golf.com wrote:

 

"One of the biggest pieces of feedback from the Ping reps as well as players on the range at TPC Summerlin was the lower and more muted sound from the G430 Max and LST drivers. We can likely attribute a big reason for the acoustic change coming from the carbon crown with the G430 LST model, but for the all-titanium construction of the G430 Max there is a good chance some internal geometry has been adjusted."

 

This means they also fixed the sound on the Max head, I would say it will be a big improvement over the G425. So not just paint.. I just hope the Max head is neutral flight bias this time, G425 Max is a hook machine, at least the 1st generation heads were.

[GolfTurkey]

14 minutes ago, Hedgehog said:

Golf.com wrote:

 

"One of the biggest pieces of feedback from the Ping reps as well as players on the range at TPC Summerlin was the lower and more muted sound from the G430 Max and LST drivers. We can likely attribute a big reason for the acoustic change coming from the carbon crown with the G430 LST model, but for the all-titanium construction of the G430 Max there is a good chance some internal geometry has been adjusted."

 

This means they also fixed the sound on the Max head, I would say it will be a big improvement over the G425. So not just paint.. I just hope the Max head is neutral flight bias this time, G425 Max is a hook machine, at least the 1st generation heads were.

 

I wonder if it is a fundamental internal geometry change on the Max, or whether they have factory-added hotmelt like with the i525 irons, time will tell...

[CynicalFly27]

Yikes.. I will stick to my G425s...